kanny 21,759 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 I dont know mate because I dont partake,but there's quite a bit of research at the moment into CBD rich strains,time will tell. No bother mate, i dont think using any one cannabanoid will be wise, because you need the delta 9 thc an the rest for the upmost benifit.Plus its open to synthetic shite being derived. Rick simpson says all the plant cannabanoids are needed to kill cancer, but big pharma wont want that mate. Truly disgusts me. Like you say the whole shebang has medical benefits all working together including the turpentines as well as the CBD'S and THC'S 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 51,425 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Weed use amongst young people is at epedemic proportions, it's literally turning a whole couple of generations into complete f***ing mongs......so sorry boys but I just don't share your enthusiasm for it and certainly not for full legalisation. I smoke fags, yes it kills you, I accept that.....what it dont do is mask or alter your true personality in the way drink and drugs do. Weed alters your personality, that's a fact. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,370 Posted December 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 I dont know mate because I dont partake,but there's quite a bit of research at the moment into CBD rich strains,time will tell. No bother mate, i dont think using any one cannabanoid will be wise, because you need the delta 9 thc an the rest for the upmost benifit.Plus its open to synthetic shite being derived. Rick simpson says all the plant cannabanoids are needed to kill cancer, but big pharma wont want that mate. Truly disgusts me. Like you say the whole shebang has medical benefits all working together including the turpentines as well as the CBD'S and THC'S? Yeah mate heres hoping. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,370 Posted December 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Weed use amongst young people is at epedemic proportions, it's literally turning a whole couple of generations into complete f***ing mongs......so sorry boys but I just don't share your enthusiasm for it and certainly not for full legalisation. I smoke fags, yes it kills you, I accept that.....what it dont do is mask or alter your true personality in the way drink and drugs do. Weed alters your personality, that's a fact. If you abuse anything wilf, it will alter, you know yourself if you havent had a fag for longer than normal, you become irritated an moody, am i right? But your missing the point mate, literally its for medicine, which you cant overdose on, its a plant, so all natural substances, really if you were allowed to make the oil an use it, i dont think id smoke it................... That often, lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 30,442 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 This threads taken a wrong turning somewhere,its about medicinal legality not recreational illegality,it does indeed have benefits,anyone who cant see that is blinkered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,370 Posted December 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 As mackems says for medicinal purposes, but if people want to puff, happy days, im more concerned on helping cancer ptients etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 51,425 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) This threads taken a wrong turning somewhere,its about medicinal legality not recreational illegality,it does indeed have benefits,anyone who cant see that is blinkered.That's true, but as usual, recreational users take the "medical" benefits line and then trumpet it like it's some sort of excuse for full legalisation.....which indeed has been the tone of this whole thread. If something helps people medically in certain cases that's one thing, helping our youth turn into complete f***ing no hopers en masse is quiet another Edited December 6, 2016 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,370 Posted December 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 I see what your saying wilf, an i understand mate, but lifes all choices, choose to drink, choose to jump out planes, choose to shoot heroin, what i mean is each individual has hundreds of decisions to make, an its there life to choose. Look at holland, plenty of respectable hard working people there, an its legal to buy an smoke. Its all about the choice mate, to smoke or not to smoke hehe. Im not good with words, im not really good with them lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 30,442 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 I have a mate in sunderland,maybe 20 years ago he was attacked in the town centre by a group of lads,they stamped him unconscious,he is severely impaired,been almost wheelchair bound since then with carers visiting his bungalow,he is brain damaged,he smokes to stop his spasms and ease the pain,some local lads help him out,but someone maybe a carer told the plod he smokes,they battered his door in and found a few grams,N told them it was his medicine to which one of the officers quipped "Really?Tell us which doctor prescribes it and his door will come off as well". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,437 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Fecking disgraceful Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,370 Posted December 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) Your right dave wankers. Who the fook is the goverment to say which medicine you want to take, back to common law f**k the goverment. Edited December 6, 2016 by Francie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 30,442 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Its an orbital debate,goes round and round and round because of governmental and media spin,all those countries that are suddenly decriminalising or legalising spent millions+ on researchmy missus worked on a paliative ward for a while,she used to offload after work on me,lung cancer wasnt uncommon,ciggies because the gov get their tax,says on a pack it kills,plenty of kids buy cigs,its normally their first stop beyond childhood,if research had been done on the medicinal benefits of tobbaco would it still be legal?I was brought up in a pit/shipbuilding town,several school friends are dead from alcoholism,i can actually think of another at the moment who drinks in ford who isnt too well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Its an orbital debate,goes round and round and round because of governmental and media spin,all those countries that are suddenly decriminalising or legalising spent millions+ on researchmy missus worked on a paliative ward for a while,she used to offload after work on me,lung cancer wasnt uncommon,ciggies because the gov get their tax,says on a pack it kills,plenty of kids buy cigs,its normally their first stop beyond childhood,if research had been done on the medicinal benefits of tobbaco would it still be legal?I was brought up in a pit/shipbuilding town,several school friends are dead from alcoholism,i can actually think of another at the moment who drinks in ford who isnt too well. Sorry to detract again from medicinal use.......but I'd also like to add that the fact that it's illegal has absolutely zero affect on those that want to sell or use it. It's a complete waste of police time, whether that time would be better spent else where is also debatable, but they are doing zero to curb its use. Fact. Could decriminalising it increase it's use? That's also debatable. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 30,442 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Its an orbital debate,goes round and round and round because of governmental and media spin,all those countries that are suddenly decriminalising or legalising spent millions+ on researchmy missus worked on a paliative ward for a while,she used to offload after work on me,lung cancer wasnt uncommon,ciggies because the gov get their tax,says on a pack it kills,plenty of kids buy cigs,its normally their first stop beyond childhood,if research had been done on the medicinal benefits of tobbaco would it still be legal?I was brought up in a pit/shipbuilding town,several school friends are dead from alcoholism,i can actually think of another at the moment who drinks in ford who isnt too well. Sorry to detract again from medicinal use.......but I'd also like to add that the fact that it's illegal has absolutely zero affect on those that want to sell or use it. It's a complete waste of police time, whether that time would be better spent else where is also debatable, but they are doing zero to curb its use. Fact. Could decriminalising it increase it's use? That's also debatable. Decriminalisation didnt increase its use amongst indiginous dutch people mate,in fact,and i know most dutch dont really use them,but dutch coffee shop numbers have actually halved sincemi first went there,dont know why.Several high ranking police officers have admitted time taken up dealing with cannabis "crime" is time wasted,its a divisive subject thats for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Its an orbital debate,goes round and round and round because of governmental and media spin,all those countries that are suddenly decriminalising or legalising spent millions+ on researchmy missus worked on a paliative ward for a while,she used to offload after work on me,lung cancer wasnt uncommon,ciggies because the gov get their tax,says on a pack it kills,plenty of kids buy cigs,its normally their first stop beyond childhood,if research had been done on the medicinal benefits of tobbaco would it still be legal?I was brought up in a pit/shipbuilding town,several school friends are dead from alcoholism,i can actually think of another at the moment who drinks in ford who isnt too well. Sorry to detract again from medicinal use.......but I'd also like to add that the fact that it's illegal has absolutely zero affect on those that want to sell or use it. It's a complete waste of police time, whether that time would be better spent else where is also debatable, but they are doing zero to curb its use. Fact. Could decriminalising it increase it's use? That's also debatable. Decriminalisation didnt increase its use amongst indiginous dutch people mate,in fact,and i know most dutch dont really use them,but dutch coffee shop numbers have actually halved sincemi first went there,dont know why.Several high ranking police officers have admitted time taken up dealing with cannabis "crime" is time wasted,its a divisive subject thats for sure. The story & law behind the coffee shops is a very interesting one. I'm sure I'm right in saying that deliveries enroute to coffeshops can be busted & no new establishments can be opened by law. There's a lot more to it than people think, it's not just a free & easy culture of smoking dope. I have to say though I was in one in Eindhoven a few weeks back & there was a very brisk trade with all ids checked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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