Phil Lloyd 10,736 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) He's got one of them voices. Just drones on and turns into noise. I managed 45 seconds sorry. Lol Yeah,..the guy has an annoying way about him,...you must have an amazing concentration span Gaz,..you beat me by 40 seconds Rewarding a young pup with a treat is,..a short cut.. It is no substitute for harnessing prey drive and what is to come later,.but it does get the ball rolling... I'm not going to go into how I prefer to school a work type lurcher,...other than to say,...the biggest problem for newbies to the game ,..is in choosing the wrong tool for the job...or worst still,.moving the goal posts... Some lads start off just wanting a wee mouching/ferreting cur,.then suddenly ask it to metomophose into a Hare killer and Fallow Buck slayer...It can happen I suppose, but far better to select a dog for a certain task.. It sure makes life a whole lot easier.. For example,.I just need a dog to work hedgerows/woodland/brash, etc in search of coney... Now, on certain terrains and well stocked areas,.this is not a hard task to achieve,..but the entire scenario changes drasticaly, when,..A. You are getting paid for doing it (pressure ) or, B, there are only a tiny handful of nuicence pests to remove... In this case, a lurcher must hunt like a spaniel and respond to instruction, like a Sheepdog.. So,.a well, trained, educated, schooled jukel is essential,...the dog simply must know the score, or it is of no fecking use,..just an ornament. I find the easiest way to achieve my goal is to make the entire excersise a game, good craic for the dog and more importantly, to use an animal for the task it is best suited to ...and if I need to get his head up at an early age,..then tricks or treats will do nicely... I do get what the guy is on about,...and there are several instances where too many wee gifts will mess up a dog's head,...but,. as with all forms of training,.it is usually all about TIMING.... Unfortunately,..like some comedians, some folk have lousy timing... Edited July 23, 2016 by Phil Lloyd 3 Quote Link to post
Sirblessed 2,511 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Share Posted July 23, 2016 Each to their own I've always started with treats, but not for long, like Phil said gets the ball rolling 2 Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,424 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Share Posted July 23, 2016 Whoops all my pups get to run wild ! For 8 weeks old I just let the fecking thing do what I wants don't get me wrong I do the basics around the yard recall and retrieving otherwise their left to hunt and mooch as they like ! Everyone has their own ways 5 Quote Link to post
jeemes 3,526 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Share Posted July 23, 2016 The treat man is too boring to listen to. The RAW meat man needs vallium and the dont touch my dog is right but I couldnt play the clip because he looked a far too annoying gobshite.. 1 Quote Link to post
spookster1 24 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Share Posted July 23, 2016 I still can't believed I listened to him..his voice made me want to slit my wrist. Quote Link to post
terryd 8,042 Posted July 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2016 well your still with us so all is well 1 Quote Link to post
mattyg 1,862 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Share Posted July 23, 2016 Ahhhhhh, now i see where my problems may lie....... People actually train their dogs. I'd probably do allot better if I tried......my dogs train me. Lol Matt 1 Quote Link to post
spookster1 24 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Share Posted July 23, 2016 Ha! I can't imagine he could train any dog with that voice, I would think he would have to carry an entire chicken with him to get the dog back! Quote Link to post
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