Busher100 703 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 What terrier breed do u find best for ferreting , digging , working with the gun and bushing just terriers like patterdales , borders etc no spaniel crosses 1 Quote Link to post
morton 5,367 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 What terrier breed do u find best for ferreting , digging , working with the gun and bushing just terriers like patterdales , borders etc no spaniel crosses All terrier breeds,if educated and allowed,will bush and ratch about on top nearly as well as each other,the differences will be mostly insignificant in the majority of kennels,when it comes to digging there is a world of difference between many terriers,often dependant on the type of hunting kennel they come out of.I prefer the versatility of the Beddy types,others prefer,Russels,others Fells and others Plummers and many combinations of each.Id not be putting to much emphasis into what others deem "best",its far to confusing and irrelevant as most of them will suffice and serve honest purpose,the kennel they come from is the biggest factor in their hunting suitability. 4 Quote Link to post
Busher100 703 Posted June 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Surely some are better than others because out of the 5 terriers ive had 3 would retrieve a ball or stick non would retrieve game. some of the this must be bred in eg retrieving , going to ground. Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,424 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 I really like the plummers seen a few just don't like the price tag ! Year or two when I'm settled in my own house I might give one ago Quote Link to post
cantona 310 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 If you want it to do the lot then buy a pup from a long line of earth dogs, proven parents grand parents etc, then rear the pup as a mooching dog under control, ratting, then show it an occupied earth with a seasoned worker in it and let it have a look, you should have the full package then, but if you buy a pup out of bushing dogs chances are it won't tick all the boxes Quote Link to post
Busher100 703 Posted June 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 So what about the retrieving side of thing most out and out earth dogs arent natural retrievers and would rather sit there and eat the bird or rabbit Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 The few digging bred terriers that I've seen haven't been interested in doing much except getting to ground. Excellent at their job but not sure I would call them all rounders. 1 Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 IMO you can't have an all round terrier simply for the fact that a good digging dog will drop to ground as soon as it finds an occupied earth ... So if you were out for a days bushing that's your day finished and you have a drama on your hands if you havnt got the correct kit with you to dig to the dog ... The only way to combat this is to break the dog from going to ground therefore you haven't got a dog that can do both jobs ... A terrier is either a bushing type or a digging type ....... 5 Quote Link to post
terryd 8,024 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 My old jr was an all rounder superb ferreter and digging dog and an asset in general plus very well behaved. But as socks says I never left home with out a shovel. If we were out digging I just kept him on a lead as he would be off marking rabbits other wise. Also if ferreting and I new the area I just avoided earths but obviously things can pop up any where and I remember a few ferreting trips going tits up but some times a nice easy fox in a hedge was a bonus but then things could go the other way and you ended up with a right pain in the arse situation you really didn't want marking the old rabbits like a good lad note the locator and the other side of the scale most terriers seem to turn there hand to most things very versatile little dogs 3 Quote Link to post
Busher100 703 Posted June 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Did he retrieve? Quote Link to post
terryd 8,024 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 no he wasn't that round more of a semicircle but in fairness I never attempted to train him to do such. But he had a lot going for him Never forget the way if he marked out of site he would let me know where he was. Then the nack of driving bullocks back out the way if we were ferreting unless he sensed they weren't going to back off then he nipped the other side of the hedge and worked it from there Quote Link to post
fireman 10,774 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 My plummer will retrieve anything she catches to me but i don't shoot so never worked her to a gun as such but have known a few other lads who's plummers were also peg dogs when they shot,mine can work with ferrets,nets,bush and she'll also go to ground to work a fox.Just once a good few years back i dug to her on a rabbit but she's never entered a rabbit bury after a rabbit since,but if your not into digging then breaking them to a fox ain't much different than any stock breaking imo .. 2 Quote Link to post
green lurchers 16,368 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) IMO you can't have an all round terrier simply for the fact that a good digging dog will drop to ground as soon as it finds an occupied earth ... So if you were out for a days bushing that's your day finished and you have a drama on your hands if you havnt got the correct kit with you to dig to the dog ... The only way to combat this is to break the dog from going to ground therefore you haven't got a dog that can do both jobs ... A terrier is either a bushing type or a digging type ....... what if you can call your dog off if needed ? whilst out bushing , Edited June 15, 2016 by green lurchers Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 IMO you can't have an all round terrier simply for the fact that a good digging dog will drop to ground as soon as it finds an occupied earth ... So if you were out for a days bushing that's your day finished and you have a drama on your hands if you havnt got the correct kit with you to dig to the dog ... The only way to combat this is to break the dog from going to ground therefore you haven't got a dog that can do both jobs ... A terrier is either a bushing type or a digging type ....... what if you can call your dog off if needed ? whilst out bushing , If you can call your dog off its quarry then it's not a digging dog ..... Quote Link to post
green lurchers 16,368 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) IMO you can't have an all round terrier simply for the fact that a good digging dog will drop to ground as soon as it finds an occupied earth ... So if you were out for a days bushing that's your day finished and you have a drama on your hands if you havnt got the correct kit with you to dig to the dog ... The only way to combat this is to break the dog from going to ground therefore you haven't got a dog that can do both jobs ... A terrier is either a bushing type or a digging type .......what if you can call your dog off if needed ? whilst out bushing , If you can call your dog off its quarry then it's not a digging dog ..... lol I dug to him enough times to know hes a digging dog , I bushed with him enough times to know he was a top bushing dog , I shot pheasant geese duck all retrieved off water as well to know he could retrieve , I called him out when needed for my reasons but never while out bushing , if you can call a dog out if needed that's a smart all round terrier one you probably will never set eyes on , oh I forgot pidgeon lol Edited June 15, 2016 by green lurchers 5 Quote Link to post
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