Rabid 1,936 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Iv worked at the same place for the last 16 years never had any warnings then last year I bought a flapjack from the works canteen and took it to my car on my break on the way to my car across the car park I had a couple of bites like I had done for the past 2 years since the new car park was put there like a lot of the other people that work there any way back to the flapjack the security officer on that day decided to film me eating it across the car park and reported me to HR cut a long story short I ended up getting a final written warning for it and kicked out of the Christmas draw you get entered if you don't have a day off all year also you get £500 lost that as well, it says in the hand book no food to be taken out of the canteen, I couldn't do f**k all about it Jesus my blood is boiling for you pal. That's how loyalty to a firm is rewarded these days Unless you're the owner, loyalty to any company is a mugs game...That's not true, I run my own company, all my blokes are loyal, and they get just rewards for it, I lent one of them 5k to pay a debt off so he didn't get kicked out his home, -interest free, pay back what he can afford when he can afford, I paid for legal rep in court for another when he was charged with something he was not involved in but present when it happened.I paid for one lads driving test and lessons when he turned of age, soon as he passed I gave him a few hundred to top his car fund up, another lad I gave a van for his use when his car was nicked, they all get bonuses at xmas, a good drink on birthdays etc etc, they get a few cold ones in the summer evenings when they get back to the yard, I look after my blokes dos they look after me, it works for all of us. The piss takers get the elbow ! I do think most employers are quick to take the piss out of the staff though, and the op has been shafted on this one. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
monkey 444 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Iv worked at the same place for the last 16 years never had any warnings then last year I bought a flapjack from the works canteen and took it to my car on my break on the way to my car across the car park I had a couple of bites like I had done for the past 2 years since the new car park was put there like a lot of the other people that work there any way back to the flapjack the security officer on that day decided to film me eating it across the car park and reported me to HR cut a long story short I ended up getting a final written warning for it and kicked out of the Christmas draw you get entered if you don't have a day off all year also you get £500 lost that as well, it says in the hand book no food to be taken out of the canteen, I couldn't do f**k all about it Jesus my blood is boiling for you pal. That's how loyalty to a firm is rewarded these days Unless you're the owner, loyalty to any company is a mugs game...That's not true, I run my own company, all my blokes are loyal, and they get just rewards for it, I lent one of them 5k to pay a debt off so he didn't get kicked out his home, -interest free, pay back what he can afford when he can afford, I paid for legal rep in court for another when he was charged with something he was not involved in but present when it happened.I paid for one lads driving test and lessons when he turned of age, soon as he passed I gave him a few hundred to top his car fund up, another lad I gave a van for his use when his car was nicked, they all get bonuses at xmas, a good drink on birthdays etc etc, they get a few cold ones in the summer evenings when they get back to the yard, I look after my blokes dos they look after me, it works for all of us. The piss takers get the elbow ! I do think most employers are quick to take the piss out of the staff though, and the op has been shafted on this one. Any jobs going ?? Only joking mate I'm 15 mins away from where I work and take home a good wage so it not all bad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,385 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Iv worked at the same place for the last 16 years never had any warnings then last year I bought a flapjack from the works canteen and took it to my car on my break on the way to my car across the car park I had a couple of bites like I had done for the past 2 years since the new car park was put there like a lot of the other people that work there any way back to the flapjack the security officer on that day decided to film me eating it across the car park and reported me to HR cut a long story short I ended up getting a final written warning for it and kicked out of the Christmas draw you get entered if you don't have a day off all year also you get £500 lost that as well, it says in the hand book no food to be taken out of the canteen, I couldn't do f**k all about it Jesus my blood is boiling for you pal. That's how loyalty to a firm is rewarded these days Unless you're the owner, loyalty to any company is a mugs game...That's not true, I run my own company, all my blokes are loyal, and they get just rewards for it, I lent one of them 5k to pay a debt off so he didn't get kicked out his home, -interest free, pay back what he can afford when he can afford, I paid for legal rep in court for another when he was charged with something he was not involved in but present when it happened.I paid for one lads driving test and lessons when he turned of age, soon as he passed I gave him a few hundred to top his car fund up, another lad I gave a van for his use when his car was nicked, they all get bonuses at xmas, a good drink on birthdays etc etc, they get a few cold ones in the summer evenings when they get back to the yard, I look after my blokes dos they look after me, it works for all of us. The piss takers get the elbow ! I do think most employers are quick to take the piss out of the staff though, and the op has been shafted on this one. Fair play to you pal I was always the same with lads working for me. You do get some small family firms where staff really are valued and loyalty rewarded but you have to admit they're the exception rather than the rule. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rabid 1,936 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Iv worked at the same place for the last 16 years never had any warnings then last year I bought a flapjack from the works canteen and took it to my car on my break on the way to my car across the car park I had a couple of bites like I had done for the past 2 years since the new car park was put there like a lot of the other people that work there any way back to the flapjack the security officer on that day decided to film me eating it across the car park and reported me to HR cut a long story short I ended up getting a final written warning for it and kicked out of the Christmas draw you get entered if you don't have a day off all year also you get £500 lost that as well, it says in the hand book no food to be taken out of the canteen, I couldn't do f**k all about it Jesus my blood is boiling for you pal. That's how loyalty to a firm is rewarded these days Unless you're the owner, loyalty to any company is a mugs game...That's not true, I run my own company, all my blokes are loyal, and they get just rewards for it, I lent one of them 5k to pay a debt off so he didn't get kicked out his home, -interest free, pay back what he can afford when he can afford, I paid for legal rep in court for another when he was charged with something he was not involved in but present when it happened.I paid for one lads driving test and lessons when he turned of age, soon as he passed I gave him a few hundred to top his car fund up, another lad I gave a van for his use when his car was nicked, they all get bonuses at xmas, a good drink on birthdays etc etc, they get a few cold ones in the summer evenings when they get back to the yard, I look after my blokes dos they look after me, it works for all of us. The piss takers get the elbow ! I do think most employers are quick to take the piss out of the staff though, and the op has been shafted on this one. Fair play to you pal I was always the same with lads working for me. You do get some small family firms where staff really are valued and loyalty rewarded but you have to admit they're the exception rather than the rule. Agreed, they certainly are the exception, and it's taken me a good few years to build up a loyal team as most people always think the grass is greener the other side, till they try it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Iv worked at the same place for the last 16 years never had any warnings then last year I bought a flapjack from the works canteen and took it to my car on my break on the way to my car across the car park I had a couple of bites like I had done for the past 2 years since the new car park was put there like a lot of the other people that work there any way back to the flapjack the security officer on that day decided to film me eating it across the car park and reported me to HR cut a long story short I ended up getting a final written warning for it and kicked out of the Christmas draw you get entered if you don't have a day off all year also you get £500 lost that as well, it says in the hand book no food to be taken out of the canteen, I couldn't do f**k all about it Jesus my blood is boiling for you pal. That's how loyalty to a firm is rewarded these days Unless you're the owner, loyalty to any company is a mugs game...That's not true, I run my own company, all my blokes are loyal, and they get just rewards for it, I lent one of them 5k to pay a debt off so he didn't get kicked out his home, -interest free, pay back what he can afford when he can afford, I paid for legal rep in court for another when he was charged with something he was not involved in but present when it happened.I paid for one lads driving test and lessons when he turned of age, soon as he passed I gave him a few hundred to top his car fund up, another lad I gave a van for his use when his car was nicked, they all get bonuses at xmas, a good drink on birthdays etc etc, they get a few cold ones in the summer evenings when they get back to the yard, I look after my blokes dos they look after me, it works for all of us. The piss takers get the elbow ! I do think most employers are quick to take the piss out of the staff though, and the op has been shafted on this one. Fair play to you pal I was always the same with lads working for me. You do get some small family firms where staff really are valued and loyalty rewarded but you have to admit they're the exception rather than the rule. Agreed, they certainly are the exception, and it's taken me a good few years to build up a loyal team as most people always think the grass is greener the other side, till they try it. That's great mate. I'm pleased you're a good employer and have found a good set of lads to work for you. I run my own company, mostly one man band stuff. I tried giving someone I know a leg up, put down £5,500 to train them up and they subbed for me. It was supposed to be a 2 year thing, but they lasted only 6 weeks. There was no communication or pre-warning, they just didn't show for work one day. I was left seriously out of pocket, and very embarrassed in front of one of my most important customer. Fortunate I rcovered my money, but it took a few sleepless nights and a lot of tooing and froing. It was the threat of legal action that eventually worked. I hope you have a witnessed written agreement re your loan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greengrass 201 Posted June 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Rabid, if only all employers thought the way you do. As it stands she got rid of another lad with learning disabilities this week !!! Said he came in smelling of drink...I know this lad well and any time I,ve been out with him the most he will have is 2 maximum 3 pints of Guinness , how the fook can you get sent home the next day after a maximum of three pints ?. On my (our ) own situation, the young fellas that got sacked were told that they would receive their paperwork by courier on the 25th of May at the latest, one of them got it today the other lad still has,nt received anything ! So it appears that although the charge was : unreasonable refusal to follow an instruction issued by a manager or supervisor, They have been dismissed for standing talking...honestly you could,nt make this up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 7,923 Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 And all this bollox about staying in the E.U will protect workers rights they keep telling us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rabid 1,936 Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Iv worked at the same place for the last 16 years never had any warnings then last year I bought a flapjack from the works canteen and took it to my car on my break on the way to my car across the car park I had a couple of bites like I had done for the past 2 years since the new car park was put there like a lot of the other people that work there any way back to the flapjack the security officer on that day decided to film me eating it across the car park and reported me to HR cut a long story short I ended up getting a final written warning for it and kicked out of the Christmas draw you get entered if you don't have a day off all year also you get £500 lost that as well, it says in the hand book no food to be taken out of the canteen, I couldn't do f**k all about it Jesus my blood is boiling for you pal. That's how loyalty to a firm is rewarded these days Unless you're the owner, loyalty to any company is a mugs game...That's not true, I run my own company, all my blokes are loyal, and they get just rewards for it, I lent one of them 5k to pay a debt off so he didn't get kicked out his home, -interest free, pay back what he can afford when he can afford, I paid for legal rep in court for another when he was charged with something he was not involved in but present when it happened.I paid for one lads driving test and lessons when he turned of age, soon as he passed I gave him a few hundred to top his car fund up, another lad I gave a van for his use when his car was nicked, they all get bonuses at xmas, a good drink on birthdays etc etc, they get a few cold ones in the summer evenings when they get back to the yard, I look after my blokes dos they look after me, it works for all of us. The piss takers get the elbow ! I do think most employers are quick to take the piss out of the staff though, and the op has been shafted on this one. Fair play to you pal I was always the same with lads working for me. You do get some small family firms where staff really are valued and loyalty rewarded but you have to admit they're the exception rather than the rule. Agreed, they certainly are the exception, and it's taken me a good few years to build up a loyal team as most people always think the grass is greener the other side, till they try it. That's great mate. I'm pleased you're a good employer and have found a good set of lads to work for you. I run my own company, mostly one man band stuff. I tried giving someone I know a leg up, put down £5,500 to train them up and they subbed for me. It was supposed to be a 2 year thing, but they lasted only 6 weeks. There was no communication or pre-warning, they just didn't show for work one day. I was left seriously out of pocket, and very embarrassed in front of one of my most important customer. Fortunate I rcovered my money, but it took a few sleepless nights and a lot of tooing and froing. It was the threat of legal action that eventually worked. I hope you have a witnessed written agreement re your loan. Am sorry to hear of your predicament, and unfortunately it's all too common an occurrence in this day and age. I would never go to those extremes on a whim, and certainly if I didn't know the person involved, it's all about mutual respect and trust, and those take time to build, small things, a bot of give and take, get some respect going both ways, all the things I have done are for lads I know and trust, who have worked for me for some time. No, nothing in writing, no witness, gentlemans word, my word is my bond, and he respected the fact I got him out of a hole at the time, all paid back in a very timely fashion, he remembers I helped him and is always willing to help me when needed. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greengrass 201 Posted June 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Nice one Rabid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lee 99 Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 Hey rabid you got any jobs going... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mel b 1,131 Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 Iv worked at the same place for the last 16 years never had any warnings then last year I bought a flapjack from the works canteen and took it to my car on my break on the way to my car across the car park I had a couple of bites like I had done for the past 2 years since the new car park was put there like a lot of the other people that work there any way back to the flapjack the security officer on that day decided to film me eating it across the car park and reported me to HR cut a long story short I ended up getting a final written warning for it and kicked out of the Christmas draw you get entered if you don't have a day off all year also you get £500 lost that as well, it says in the hand book no food to be taken out of the canteen, I couldn't do f**k all about it Jesus my blood is boiling for you pal. That's how loyalty to a firm is rewarded these days Unless you're the owner, loyalty to any company is a mugs game...That's not true, I run my own company, all my blokes are loyal, and they get just rewards for it, I lent one of them 5k to pay a debt off so he didn't get kicked out his home, -interest free, pay back what he can afford when he can afford, I paid for legal rep in court for another when he was charged with something he was not involved in but present when it happened.I paid for one lads driving test and lessons when he turned of age, soon as he passed I gave him a few hundred to top his car fund up, another lad I gave a van for his use when his car was nicked, they all get bonuses at xmas, a good drink on birthdays etc etc, they get a few cold ones in the summer evenings when they get back to the yard, I look after my blokes dos they look after me, it works for all of us. The piss takers get the elbow ! I do think most employers are quick to take the piss out of the staff though, and the op has been shafted on this one. Fair play to you pal I was always the same with lads working for me. You do get some small family firms where staff really are valued and loyalty rewarded but you have to admit they're the exception rather than the rule. Agreed, they certainly are the exception, and it's taken me a good few years to build up a loyal team as most people always think the grass is greener the other side, till they try it. That's great mate. I'm pleased you're a good employer and have found a good set of lads to work for you. I run my own company, mostly one man band stuff. I tried giving someone I know a leg up, put down £5,500 to train them up and they subbed for me. It was supposed to be a 2 year thing, but they lasted only 6 weeks. There was no communication or pre-warning, they just didn't show for work one day. I was left seriously out of pocket, and very embarrassed in front of one of my most important customer. Fortunate I rcovered my money, but it took a few sleepless nights and a lot of tooing and froing. It was the threat of legal action that eventually worked. I hope you have a witnessed written agreement re your loan. Am sorry to hear of your predicament, and unfortunately it's all too common an occurrence in this day and age. I would never go to those extremes on a whim, and certainly if I didn't know the person involved, it's all about mutual respect and trust, and those take time to build, small things, a bot of give and take, get some respect going both ways, all the things I have done are for lads I know and trust, who have worked for me for some time. No, nothing in writing, no witness, gentlemans word, my word is my bond, and he respected the fact I got him out of a hole at the time, all paid back in a very timely fashion, he remembers I helped him and is always willing to help me when needed. a very old fashioned and admirable way to do things , the world would be a much more comfortable place to live if we all looked after each other like this, hat off to you sir . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greengrass 201 Posted June 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 If we could go back to the days when a mans word meant something the country might not be in the mess it is. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greengrass 201 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 A short update on our situation, the two lads who were sacked had put in a written notice of appeal which was acknowledged today saying they have their appeal hearing next week ...where the judge and jury will be the CEO who sacked them lol, this is,nt right as they have spoken again to their lawyers today and by law she cannot be judge and jury, OK they fully accept that she will empty them , but believe me when I say their lawyers are very confident. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr scent 665 Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 I thought they would have to follow a warning procedure of a verbal warning first before a written warning . I ask to see your contract pal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lloyd90 509 Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Sounds like a bag of sugar in her petrol tank might help her be a bit sweeter ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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