low plains drifter 10,427 Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 3 hours ago, kanny said: Frank ain't having it ... Seems to be a bit of a grey area regarding the low punch the ref will often state at the beginning what's acceptable especially if they have waist bands up to their armpits lol but I don't think this ref mentioned it so its up for interpretation, it's going to be one argued about for years ...Dubois staying down again wasn't a great look either, does it deserve a rematch? Do you know what nemesis means? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 1,913 Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 the truth. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Councilestatekid 1,875 Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 Don't think it was low in my opinion high belt but dd is a jacker shunt of stayed down either time 1st time lookin at corner after round his corner sayin don't give up now so they know he jacks.ref had no reason to stop it at end wasn't hurt or anything 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,095 Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 Usyk is the only bloke I’ve ever known to have balls on his belly button 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) My penny' s worth....Usyk successfully targeted Dubois' dodgy eye all night. When Dubois successfully floored Usyk with a body shot, he threw very few body shots afterwards. This was because Usyk is such a relentless, come forward fighter. Most aggressive fighters miss a lot. Usyk doesn't. So Dubois couldn't set himself for more body shots. Any punch below the waist line is illegal. But refs usually allow punches on the belt. If the ref thought the punch was illegal why didn't he deduct a point? The ref seemed determined to allow Usyk to recover and kept telling him to take his time, even when Usyk had said he was fit to continue. But there's no guarantee Dubois would have finished Usyk has the ref just given Usyk a count. Perhaps the ref was aware of the propaganda value of a Ukraine winning because of the war. Usyk is vulnerable to body shots, AJ had him doubled up with a punch which would usually be allowed. Dubois' is not psychologically strong. In the end it was Usyk's psychological strength which beat Dubois as much as his punches. Edited August 27, 2023 by jukel123 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,142 Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 The punch wasn't in his bollocks as he claims, it was low but looked legal in all the replays to me.. if you wear your waist band high you can't expect to use that as the guide for low blows... the bigger disappointment in many ways is Dubois not capitalising in the rest of the round, he had over 2mins to put it on him and seemed scared to commit, I get Usyk is still dangerous when hurt, but its shit or bust then... also it looked like he quit to me, to finish a world title fight on your knee and then get up and walk back to your corner ok'ish, he may regret that for ever.. Usyk done what usyk does, he's a complete fighter, so accurate in everything he does.. Dubois is only 25 has he got it in him to come again at this level? Oh...and why the f**k did Naz's lad get his first fight one before the main event, what a joke that was... Sheeraz looked really good, but the bloke he fought looked like something out of Lord of the Rings lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,064 Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 Was it a low blow ? yes Should Usyk have been in that much pain ? no Would he have beaten a referees count ? who knows Is Usyk vulnerable to body shots ? probably Did Dubois quit again ? yes ( some of us saw it in him earlier than others despite the protests of his demented father ) Is there any point in a rematch ? no Most people with big strong opinions about such low blows have never had a foul proof protector on in their life,the solid part is the cup around your tackle,the part Usyk got hit on is the foam waistband which although isnt pleasant it doesnt cause the reaction it caused so was he hurt and then milked it yes of course he did.....Usyk isnt known for wearing his shorts up under his armpits like some fighters do,Dubois shorts were much higher,plenty of times Usyks belly button was visible through the fight and it seems that no part of Dubois glove touched the skin so of course its a low blow.....the main issue beyond all that for me was the wet ring surface....how a fighter who relies on footwork could be expected to perform to his best on a wet canvas is a complete joke !.......bit of a farcical night all the way round if you ask me,as for the undercard .....ol Franks starting to embarrass himself its sad to watch. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,400 Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, gnasher16 said: Was it a low blow ? yes Should Usyk have been in that much pain ? no Would he have beaten a referees count ? who knows Is Usyk vulnerable to body shots ? probably Did Dubois quit again ? yes ( some of us saw it in him earlier than others despite the protests of his demented father ) Is there any point in a rematch ? no Most people with big strong opinions about such low blows have never had a foul proof protector on in their life,the solid part is the cup around your tackle,the part Usyk got hit on is the foam waistband which although isnt pleasant it doesnt cause the reaction it caused so was he hurt and then milked it yes of course he did.....Usyk isnt known for wearing his shorts up under his armpits like some fighters do,Dubois shorts were much higher,plenty of times Usyks belly button was visible through the fight and it seems that no part of Dubois glove touched the skin so of course its a low blow.....the main issue beyond all that for me was the wet ring surface....how a fighter who relies on footwork could be expected to perform to his best on a wet canvas is a complete joke !.......bit of a farcical night all the way round if you ask me,as for the undercard .....ol Franks starting to embarrass himself its sad to watch. i think it was klitschkos who promoted it was there show mate not warrens Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 1,913 Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 more truth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,400 Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 45 minutes ago, stonewall said: more truth. once the fight finished watch usyk pull his shorts down straight away the full fight you couldn’t see his belly button that’s the truth lol hes there to be beat and will milk it while he can Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 6,062 Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, mC HULL said: once the fight finished watch usyk pull his shorts down straight away the full fight you couldn’t see his belly button that’s the truth lol hes there to be beat and will milk it while he can Come on mc uysk actually fought a boxer .who is furys next opponent a mma fighter who's never boxed pro wbc should either make fury fight uysk next or strip him of the belt. him and his dad are a embarrassment to boxing the way they behave 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,400 Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Blackmag said: Come on mc uysk actually fought a boxer .who is furys next opponent a mma fighter who's never boxed pro wbc should either make fury fight uysk next or strip him of the belt. him and his dad are a embarrassment to boxing the way they behave mate watch the warren frampton usyk and his manager sat down talking frampton asks when is fury usyk spits his dummy out warren says we have sent offer after offer you won’t sign if you can show me one offer you’ve sent us i’ll give 20 million to charity usyks promoter says nothing he’s shiite he will just milk it while he can he isn’t beating fury in a million years mate if your fury joshua won’t sign usyk won’t you have beaten everyone else what would you do same as usyk won’t ever fight wilder he’d be knocked into the next week wilder beats em all bar fury it’s plain as day the wbc heavyweight champion and none will sign to fight at least whyte had the balls to try 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,400 Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 after the fight usyk got asked when fury ge said next then the next breath said i miss my kids changed the subject listen to the end of the fight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,400 Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 go to 18.30 mate and watch i thought you have abit more sense then to think usyk wants the fury fight mate lolhttps://youtu.be/17DRb2r1B_U?si=yiq-d3o1DbLb1S-T Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,400 Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 lol 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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