Boxing At The Weekend...

[MickC 1,825]

The Fury AJ Wilder debate is good for boxing all three have there attributes and flaws and everybody is wanting to see them all fight each other, which hopefully does happen. Fury is an accumilative boxer not a one punch specialist and stops opponents with his volume of punches in a fight. This strategy works well as proven when he stopped the teak tough Chisora, only a prime Haye the other boxer able to stop him.

Edited September 23, 2018 by MickC

[bird 9,587]

2 minutes ago, MickC said:

The Fury AJ Wilder debate is good for boxing all three have there attributes and flaws and everybody is wanting to see them all fight each other, which hopefully does happen. 

if Fury fights wilder  in dec , will  Fury  fight Aj in April  , or would it be to soon to fight next ./ carnt see the point in white fighting  in April, it be better fight to fight fury  with the 4 belts on the line. dont think you here much of wilder when looses in dec , i reckon he retire  , with his  30 millon dollars.  them pair last night made   14 millon quid each    wonder what the lighter weights make compared  to the heavies   .??

[bird 9,587]

4 minutes ago, maxhardcore said:

Ray' it's called Boxing not Knockout

The Noble sport is about movement ' ring craft ' slipping punches.

Hitting but not being hit.

yeh max but you got  to throw  more than  12 punches  in 12 rounds  , think that what they said when Fury   fought wlad  , like said max Fury  will beat  Aj and wilder  on points  back peddling    for 12 rounds  ,  very long boring spectacle  mate .

[MickC 1,825]

2 minutes ago, bird said:

if Fury fights wilder  in dec , will  Fury  fight Aj in April  , or would it be to soon to fight next ./ carnt see the point in white fighting  in April, it be better fight to fight fury  with the 4 belts on the line. dont think you here much of wilder when looses in dec , i reckon he retire  , with his  30 millon dollars.  them pair last night made   14 millon quid each    wonder what the lighter weights make compared  to the heavies   .??

Ray not sure as its been mentioned that Wilders team wanted a rematch clause so that could delay a fight for the winner  with Joshua. I do hope Fury beats Wilder to set up the biggest fight in British History. That would be some build up between two undefeated British Heavyweight World Champions as well as the fight itself answering a lot of questions for the fans who is actually the best, there could be at least a couple of fights between them .

[delswal 3,817]

9 hours ago, MickC said:

Socks we will probably never know 100% who was to blame for the fight not happening with Wilder but we do know that Joshuas trainer (Mcracken) did say that Joshua was not ready for Wilder yet, which does make you wonder. Fair play to Fury who after two comeback fights is now fighting Wilder in America on Dec 1st. Joshua has not once fought outside of Britain but depending if Wilder can beat Fury he may well have to if this fight with Fury does big enough numbers on ppv.

Mick I've always found my self agreeing with what you say about boxing and agree with most of your comments, but why should Joshua fight outside of Great Britain ?

He is champion, if his opponents want his belts let them come here to take them, did Andre Ward ever travel to Europe to fight no, did Mayweather, not sure? both great champions, why should Joshua be any different. Use every advantage as champion and if fighting on home soil is one of them so be it, plenty before him have done it.  

Joshua is right he's got the belts...........You want them, then come here and take them.

[greg64 2,560]

1 hour ago, MickC said:

The Fury AJ Wilder debate is good for boxing all three have there attributes and flaws and everybody is wanting to see them all fight each other, which hopefully does happen. Fury is an accumilative boxer not a one punch specialist and stops opponents with his volume of punches in a fight. This strategy works well as proven when he stopped the teak tough Chisora, only a prime Haye the other boxer able to stop him.

the volume of punches that fury and klitchco threw in that fight was absolute dire ,fury only landed 86 punches and vlad even less at 52 punches in 12 rounds what a pathetic fight that was 

[ryaldinhio 4,122]

Everyone who slags AJ off and says he is fighting bums and old men etc what is he meant to do? For whatever reason a deal couldn't be agreed with Wilder so he took the next in line ranked No3 in the world. It's not like he was fighting a bin man or a part time bouncer. When people say Klitchko was past it etc, what is AJ meant to do about that? He was still competing and therefore was the best about so he took him on and won and put him into retirement. WK was a different fighter against AJ because he was giving his all one last time to get back his belts. He was complacent against Fury. 

Yes AJ has flaws but atleast he is competing at the highest level possible. Can't be knocked for trying.

The two 'comeback' fights that Fury has had should have been behind closed doors the opposition was that poor but that's what happens when you have a shite promoter/manager and a team that just strokes the ego.

Personally I think IF the Wilder Fury fight is officially sorted then fury will pull out with injury or he will do something daft like somehow be associated with a big bag of powder in Vegas on a night out so the fight doesn't happen. I have seen dec 1st mentioned. I will believe it is going to happen when he climbs through the ropes.

One thing is for sure the pre fight build up tour with them two idiots and their respectuve entourage in tow is going to be shameful, annoying and disrespectful.

[MickC 1,825]

2 hours ago, delswal said:

Mick I've always found my self agreeing with what you say about boxing and agree with most of your comments, but why should Joshua fight outside of Great Britain ?

He is champion, if his opponents want his belts let them come here to take them, did Andre Ward ever travel to Europe to fight no, did Mayweather, not sure? both great champions, why should Joshua be any different. Use every advantage as champion and if fighting on home soil is one of them so be it, plenty before him have done it.  

Joshua is right he's got the belts...........You want them, then come here and take them.

I agree to an extent but Joshua's ultimate goal is to become a Billionaire. Joshua himself has always stated that the  " Greats " have been beaten and he may well also get beat along his career. To reach his ultimate goal he is at some point going to have to fight in America and crack the ppv market over there. Joshua is doing really well in U.K.  15-20 million per fight but that is probably his ceiling here unless he fights Fury or Wilder. It's the same for Ward and Mayweather and even Roy Jones refused to fight outside America as Champion,for one simple reason the biggest purses for them were in America. Ward as good as he is to be fair has never been a big draw purse wise,not sure what he got for the Kovalev fights however.

[lurcherman 887 12,670]

13 minutes ago, maxhardcore said:

Imo the powers that be wanted Fury out the picture

 

Yeah because hes a c**t maybe?? And dont make me laugh hughie fury haha hes european level at best .. he couldnt beat chisora or whyte let alone aj or povetkin 

[pesky1972 4,924]

Max you talk some sh!te. 

Fury beat a 39 year old Klitshko and he’s beat one of the greatest of all time. AJ beats him 18 months later and he’s past it.

Truth is AJ likely wouldn’t have fought him at all but for the fact Fury failed a drug test.

Fury is a drug cheat who has one world class name on his record, from a poor fight in which Klitschko wouldn’t let his hands go. IMO a prime Klitschko would probably beat Fury and AJ.

Why don’t you admit you just don’t like black people

[greg64 2,560]

klitchko did't  turn up for that fight with fury and if  he had fought  like he did against Joshua he probably would have won it 

[MickC 1,825]

2 hours ago, lurcherman 887 said:

Yeah because hes a c**t maybe?? And dont make me laugh hughie fury haha hes european level at best .. he couldnt beat chisora or whyte let alone aj or povetkin 

Until they ever meet who knows what would  happen. Hughie is fighting Pulev at end of October in an eliminator for Joshua's IBF belt,a fight first offered to Whyte but he refused it after Hearn lost the purse bid for the fight meaning he would have to fight outside Britain for the first time. Whyte also refused to fight Ortiz in an eliminator for Wilders WBC belt. Hughie has fought a few times around the World not fighting in England till his fifth fight even fighting Parker in his own back yard for the WBO title at 23 years old. 

Edit to say Hughie fought Parker at the M.E.N in Manchester 

Edited September 23, 2018 by MickC

[MickC 1,825]

28 minutes ago, greg64 said:

klitchko did't  turn up for that fight with fury and if  he had fought  like he did against Joshua he probably would have won it 

Wlad had his doubts about facing Fury, from the extra padding on the ring floor, padding in his shoes to look taller and then wrapping his gloves without any of Furys team witnessing it.Cheating and gamesmanship from Wlad before a punch was thrown.  Wlad had lost the mind games before he even stepped in the ring. Fury created the doubt with his antics at press conferences,refusing to acknowledge Wlads achievments etc and Wlad could not take him seriously and took it all in. Furys boxing ability sealed the deal and he won the fight,it wasn't fan friendly but it was effective nobody can deny that. Wlad could not get to Fury as Furys gameplan/attributes would not allow it.Joshua did not have the ability to keep Wlad out and Wlad got to him and it made for a far entertaining fight. After the Wlad fight Fury sat at the post fight conference and gave Wlad all the credit he had denied before the fight.Fury has been at the mindgames with Joshua for a long time,rubbishing his achievements,his opponents everything basically. Anybody else see a pattern here ? Mind games can be a powerful thing in boxing and Fury used it perfectly for the Wlad fight and it seems hes at it now.

Edited September 23, 2018 by MickC

[lurcherman 887 12,670]

Defo some underlying racism issues here 

[Lenmcharristar 9,168]

2 minutes ago, lurcherman 887 said:

Defo some underlying racism issues here 

nothing wrong with liking your own kind