Plummer Cross Bedlington Terrier

[low plains drifter 9,461]

Alright Folks, I've never owned any terriers myself, and as my mate has lined his Plummer bitch with a working bred Beddy, was wondering if many people would be interested in this cross. My thoughts are they might make canny knock about dogs for ratting, and flushing for the lurchers etc, anyone seen this cross before or have any thoughts what they could offer ? Cheers

[low plains drifter 9,461]

You on the turps Meat lol, there's nothing to advertise yet mate, the bitch was only lined 2 or 3 weeks ago, the dog covered her a second time of his own accord while the lads were talking in the house

[Bosun11 537]

What was his original idea behind the lining LPD. Is the Beddy an earth dog?

[Plucky1 1,119]

It's only a fiver lol just pay it and get pics up lol are either parents a show winner? Wanna get that in before you stick a price up lollol

 

Let's hope Morton an wirralman don't see this tho as there will be a serious argument about who brings what to the litter lol never mind what price should be lol

I have bred every type of hybrid except this one so its lets wait and see what the pups are like, I would think that a few would carry the red colour but their coats will be interesting,you may well get a long linty coat, I suppose it depends on how the parents were bred,on the Plummer side it depends on if its "NEW" blood with plenty of bull or "OLD" blood from poor lines, a bit more info or pics would be nice, I would think the beddy would add leg to what can already be a leggy type, suck it and see is the answer,WM

 

 

Plummer/Patt I bred my brother

[low plains drifter 9,461]

What was his original idea behind the lining LPD. Is the Beddy an earth dog?

I don't know what the idea was mate, it all come as a surprise to me, the dogs are'nt workers, I just wondered if they would be likely to be of any use at all, not trying to find homes for the pups (that is if the bitch has even taken), these are nothing to do with me. Like I've already said I don't keep terriers, know nothing about them, I enjoy reading a bit on here about the terriers though, and just wanted to ask if this cross had been tried by anyone before ?

[Plucky1 1,119]

 

What was his original idea behind the lining LPD. Is the Beddy an earth dog?

I don't know what the idea was mate, it all come as a surprise to me, the dogs are'nt workers, I just wondered if they would be likely to be of any use at all, not trying to find homes for the pups (that is if the bitch has even taken), these are nothing to do with me. Like I've already said I don't keep terriers, know nothing about them, I enjoy reading a bit on here about the terriers though, and just wanted to ask if this cross had been tried by anyone before ?

 

I would stay well clear if either has seen no work, sounds like an accident anyway,WM

[MOLE265 792]

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Plucky1

Today, 11:00 PM

 

What was his original idea behind the lining LPD. Is the Beddy an earth dog?

I don't know what the idea was mate, it all come as a surprise to me, the dogs are'nt workers, I just wondered if they would be likely to be of any use at all, not trying to find homes for the pups (that is if the bitch has even taken), these are nothing to do with me. Like I've already said I don't keep terriers, know nothing about them, I enjoy reading a bit on here about the terriers though, and just wanted to ask if this cross had been tried by anyone before ?

 

I would stay well clear if either has seen no work, sounds like an accident anyway,WM

 

Mole wrote

That will be most Plummers then. Pmsl.

[low plains drifter 9,461]

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Plucky1

Today, 11:00 PM

 

What was his original idea behind the lining LPD. Is the Beddy an earth dog?

I don't know what the idea was mate, it all come as a surprise to me, the dogs are'nt workers, I just wondered if they would be likely to be of any use at all, not trying to find homes for the pups (that is if the bitch has even taken), these are nothing to do with me. Like I've already said I don't keep terriers, know nothing about them, I enjoy reading a bit on here about the terriers though, and just wanted to ask if this cross had been tried by anyone before ?

 

I would stay well clear if either has seen no work, sounds like an accident anyway,WM

 

Mole wrote

That will be most Plummers then. Pmsl.

What if the said Plummer put her paw on your hand behind a closed door ?

[dillydog 8,416]

A Plummer x Pat would be black, black is always dominant

[runem 533]

Alright Folks, I've never owned any terriers myself, and as my mate has lined his Plummer bitch with a working bred Beddy, was wondering if many people would be interested in this cross. My thoughts are they might make canny knock about dogs for ratting, and flushing for the lurchers etc, anyone seen this cross before or have any thoughts what they could offer ? Cheers

never seen the cross before,dont want to see the cross,what are they called "Plumbed terriers"

[foxdropper 17,092]

A Plummer x Pat would be black, black is always dominant

I've been asked several times why I've not produced a choc ,red dog out of NS stuff and the answer is as above .20 odd years of breeding blacks has established a strong gene that even in its 7th generation to NS origin has not been diluted .

[stormyboy 1,352]

 

It's only a fiver lol just pay it and get pics up lol are either parents a show winner? Wanna get that in before you stick a price up lollol

 

Let's hope Morton an wirralman don't see this tho as there will be a serious argument about who brings what to the litter lol never mind what price should be lol

I have bred every type of hybrid except this one so its lets wait and see what the pups are like, I would think that a few would carry the red colour but their coats will be interesting,you may well get a long linty coat, I suppose it depends on how the parents were bred,on the Plummer side it depends on if its "NEW" blood with plenty of bull or "OLD" blood from poor lines, a bit more info or pics would be nice, I would think the beddy would add leg to what can already be a leggy type, suck it and see is the answer,WM

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Plummer/Patt I bred my brother

 

 

You sure WM? F1 Plummer/Patt would be self coloured red or black depending on the colour of the patt. Self colour and black are both dominant.

[rob284 1,678]

Maybe the dog didnt take the dominent gene and took two recessive genes.

[Plucky1 1,119]

 

 

It's only a fiver lol just pay it and get pics up lol are either parents a show winner? Wanna get that in before you stick a price up lollol

 

Let's hope Morton an wirralman don't see this tho as there will be a serious argument about who brings what to the litter lol never mind what price should be lol

I have bred every type of hybrid except this one so its lets wait and see what the pups are like, I would think that a few would carry the red colour but their coats will be interesting,you may well get a long linty coat, I suppose it depends on how the parents were bred,on the Plummer side it depends on if its "NEW" blood with plenty of bull or "OLD" blood from poor lines, a bit more info or pics would be nice, I would think the beddy would add leg to what can already be a leggy type, suck it and see is the answer,WM

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Plummer/Patt I bred my brother

 

 

You sure WM? F1 Plummer/Patt would be self coloured red or black depending on the colour of the patt. Self colour and black are both dominant.

 

Everyone is an expert on here and yet as said I have bred loads of different Plummer / Patts litters, I have bred every cross imaginable to get to where I wanted many times, many get fooled by what the eyes see (phenotype) and not what the terrier is carrying in its genes (genotype), thats why you start with the best stock of known history and not what you can see, scatterbreds although very good as a one off will often produce rubbish when mated to other scatterbreds, here's a pic of one litter of Plummer / Patts,like liquorice all sorts, I have pics of every litter I've ever bred going back to 1979,you'd be surprised at what can come out,as I said,suck it and see,you cannot predict from what you can physically see, wives have been divorced for giving birth to a dark skinned child and yet have never been unfaithful,genes can jump 2 generations, LOL's, WM

 

Edited April 1, 2016 by Plucky1

[stormyboy 1,352]

No expert but I do have a basic grasp of mendels law of segregation. If an animal carries one dominant gene,it will display that genotype. Self colour is dominant. Unless the patt has recessives from other breeds,eg russell,so not pure patt.