peterbirdman1 206 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 This has been a long time in planning. The pointer is one of the best dog I have owned. He has proved him self in the field at a variety of quarry and in all disciplines of work ie falconry,beating,rabbiting,ratting and trailing this dog has done it all and to a very high standard I do believe that pointers have a lot to offer to the Lurcher. 4 Quote Link to post
the monkey 339 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 I think these have great potential but will the half cross be fast enough,probaly not will 1/4 pointer give enough of the points that you want to breed in 1 Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,546 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 That's why I didn't put gwp X grey over my bull X bitch now she's more bull than grey put a 3/4 grey 1/4 bull over her and will think of half X gwp in a few years should be more grey in the pups then Quote Link to post
peterbirdman1 206 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Hi monkey I guess you've not had the pleasure to see a good pointer in the flesh mate. They can cover ground effortlessly. They will run all day long. The fram is more suited then some other dogs that are used. Their feet are tight but big and strong with chunky pads that will take on any terrain their coat is good and prey drive second to none. Have been around lurchers all my life but the pointer has really opened my eyes. 4 Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Hi monkey I guess you've not had the pleasure to see a good pointer in the flesh mate. They can cover ground effortlessly. They will run all day long. The fram is more suited then some other dogs that are used. Their feet are tight but big and strong with chunky pads that will take on any terrain their coat is good and prey drive second to none. Have been around lurchers all my life but the pointer has really opened my eyes. My biggest regret dog wise is that I did not discover the GWP until I was in my late 40's. What a breed of dog, as said they can not only do the jobs but do them well. With my first one I had a bitch lined up for him and was going to keep a pup, but he contracted lungworm and had to be PTS at 4 year old, just coming into his prime. TC Quote Link to post
Silversnake 1,099 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Good luck with the litter, I have always been interested in the gwp as a pure and crossed with something a bit faster. I have heard they do require alot of work which I cannot quite provide atm otherwise I would probably have one in my kennel. Quote Link to post
peterbirdman1 206 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Sorry here that tiercel a sad loss. That was my regret not having them when I was young and that's why it's took me till now to breed them I was worrying that I was getting on a bit. Eight year on and just hoping it's not to late for me or the dog 2 Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Sorry here that tiercel a sad loss. That was my regret not having them when I was young and that's why it's took me till now to breed them I was worrying that I was getting on a bit. Eight year on and just hoping it's not to late for me or the dog Sadly it's too late for me now, as much as I love the breed, with my legs it would not be fair on the dog. My first one taught me a lot about dog training, even when I had been producing well trained dogs previously and thought I was the Dogs B. He soon brought me down to earth and made me rethink everything I had learned previously. I do not think the GWP cross will be for everyone, but if you can understand what makes a GWP tick, and how to work with that. Then the GWP X has a lot to offer. TC 3 Quote Link to post
peterbirdman1 206 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Very well put mate. It's all about understanding the breed and working with it 2 Quote Link to post
Themoocher 231 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 This would be handy cross if you done a lot on hills, Fells or moores. Good nose, strong, nice feet, can ran all day and cover some ground. Had lab X gwp years ago was surprised how fast was. It had some nose on it could cover some ground and flush deer. Quote Link to post
dogs-n-natives 1,182 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I'll just have to wait and see when mine brakes down, got a busy winter/spring so hopefully she brakes down after, shes not the most reliable timing. Quote Link to post
Mustelid 143 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 This is an interesting thread, it would be good to hear how these breeding plans pan out. Quote Link to post
the monkey 339 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Hi monkey I guess you've not had the pleasure to see a good pointer in the flesh mate. They can cover ground effortlessly. They will run all day long. The fram is more suited then some other dogs that are used. Their feet are tight but big and strong with chunky pads that will take on any terrain their coat is good and prey drive second to none. Have been around lurchers all my life but the pointer has really opened my eyes. to be fair I have not seen many run ,I saw a half cross and as a hunter on open moorland it was awesome but lacked that burst of speed that puts game in the bag .. I have seen a couple of 3/4 bred dogs to a whippet/grey,they were real good at rabbit but had thrown to the running dog . I think the breed has a lot to offer and would suit my style mooching ,gamekeeping etc but would worry me with the speed....I,m not saying they cant run but sometimes you need that burst of speed that makes game make a mistake. I have never seen a pure bred dog in the field <would love to>... I am positive they are great all round dogs with prey drive to spare ,its just the speed thing that would worry me 1 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Hi monkey I guess you've not had the pleasure to see a good pointer in the flesh mate. They can cover ground effortlessly. They will run all day long. The fram is more suited then some other dogs that are used. Their feet are tight but big and strong with chunky pads that will take on any terrain their coat is good and prey drive second to none. Have been around lurchers all my life but the pointer has really opened my eyes. to be fair I have not seen many run ,I saw a half cross and as a hunter on open moorland it was awesome but lacked that burst of speed that puts game in the bag .. I have seen a couple of 3/4 bred dogs to a whippet/grey,they were real good at rabbit but had thrown to the running dog . I think the breed has a lot to offer and would suit my style mooching ,gamekeeping etc but would worry me with the speed....I,m not saying they cant run but sometimes you need that burst of speed that makes game make a mistake. I have never seen a pure bred dog in the field <would love to>... I am positive they are great all round dogs with prey drive to spare ,its just the speed thing that would worry me I couldn't of put it better myself. I would love to see a 3/4 grey 1/4 pointer Quote Link to post
peterbirdman1 206 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Hi monkey i don't always believe that speed alone puts game in the bag. I like a lurcher with good strike, timing, know when to put in and pure determination. When you watch a lurcher with this ability they're a pleasure to watch and own Quote Link to post
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