Sheep Farmer Shoots Hounds

[Haiddheliwr 1,911]

If you go back old school and read raynardmans posts you will find they did not go back there intentionally

[pablo esc 1,598]

Was there nothing wrong with his sheep?, and surely accidents can happen even so when dogs arnt passing, and you can get the blame, sort of thing

[pablo esc 1,598]

Some farmers, shooters just like shooting dogs. I was told once by a hunting man, his best dog, harrier was away hunting and was heading home across a field and the c, nt shot it

[francolin 449]

 

 

What country did this happen in? Were the hounds shot with a shotgun or a rifle?

Hound owner pm me if preferred.

West Wales/shotgun

Was it a double barrel or a semi auto? If it is held on an FAC then it must be conditioned for use. I doubt it will have been conditioned for the protection of livestock. A possible avenue of investigation?

 

Farmers do not have a legal right to shoot dogs. Shooting someone else's dog without their permission is criminal damage. What farmers do have is a defence in law against such a claim, if it can be proven that the dog was worrying livestock and there was no other way to prevent the worrying. Livestock worrying is defined as

 

(a)attacking livestock, or

(b)chasing livestock in such a way as may reasonably be expected to cause injury or suffering to the livestock or, in the case of females, abortion, or loss of or diminution in their produce.

©being at large (that is to say not on a lead or otherwise under close control) in a field or enclosure in which there are sheep

 

However, pack hounds are excused point c. I would insist that the police investigate this case of criminal damage. Therefore the burden of proof will be on the shooter to prove that the hounds were actively engaged in the act of attacking or chasing sheep, and that there was no other reasonable way to prevent the attack. Any person who shoots a dog in order to prevent a livestock attack is required to report the incident to the police within 48hrs. Failure to do so will prevent the shooter from using Animals Act 1971 as a defence against a civil claim. It may also reflect badly in any following criminal proceedings.

 

The NFU strongly recommends that farmers take video evidence before shooting.

 

There may also be a potential prosecution in respect of the two injured hounds. As the shooter failed to kill them immediately and outright, there may be a case for charging him with unnecessary suffering. Again, insist that the police investigate this criminal offence.

 

Should the police fail to act on either of these charges, then it is possible to bring a private prosecution in the style of the RSPCA. A complaint may also be made to the firearms licensing department of the police force involved.

 

well done mate, a bit of sound advice for once, might help these boys who lost the hounds

[low plains drifter 9,459]

 

 

Can you imagine rspca fighting case for fox hunt

A couple of years ago there was a foxhunting debate on telly and the anti's had some farmers with them who were opposed to hunts being on their land.

Things were going smoothly for the anti's until someone asked the farmers would they shoot hounds ?

The farmers said YES.

The pro hunters pointed out that hounds were animals too and why would animal lovers shoot hounds ?

Then someone pointed out to the farmers that the anti's were all anti meat production too and it all went downhill after that.

Could that come under the category of Cluster fukc lol

[Haiddheliwr 1,911]

Go back old school and read what raynardman posted and you will see they did not go back there intentionally

[Haiddheliwr 1,911]

I see you say "Best" hound pablo, just hope that it wasn't their leading hounds that were shot. Not justifying any hound being shot far from it but to lose the one you rely on week after week has got to be fu**ing heartbreaking for any huntsman

[pablo esc 1,598]

Yes this man and his friends never had a big pack at the time, and yes it was a good dog and one he relied on. One that could hunt a good way, the other ones different, not a proper pack say!

[pablo esc 1,598]

Saw a good pack the other week hunting, first time this season I've seen any out, the were having a good hunt, open land

[Haiddheliwr 1,911]

I think we will need hounds with fu**in webbed feet pablo with the amount of rain we are having down here!! I had a feeling they would be their best hounds so so sad

[pablo esc 1,598]

Same here. Especially with these men, the hunt on foot. Not that I saw them on the side of the fields I was on. Dogs were flying, the be very good

[Haiddheliwr 1,911]

Yes same here pablo we also hunt on foot, they have always had exceptional hounds and also they are all round good hunting people. My Xmas wish is they have young hounds coming on which will do the hounds they have lost proud

[Rabid 1,936]

Half of you lot should be disgusted with yourselves, talking about going back at night and burning sheds down, killing sheep, what sort of numpties are you, you are the reason a lot of farmers don't want you on the land in the first place, I love dogs, and hate to hear of them been shot, but not one of you can say honestly they were NOT worrying sheep, cos you were not there !

[Haiddheliwr 1,911]

Can you say honestly they WERE worrying sheep cos were you there??

[BlackBuck 655]

I really hope some of you bullshitting c**ts (rabid) never have to experience going through having a dog shot and not being able to do anything about it . You don't know what you would do unless your in that situation.