Giro 2,648 Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 If your filming to get a hour of decent footage how many rabbits would you need to run ?? Time you edit out when it goes fuzzy, times when cameras rolling but nothings Happening & then missed runs.. If been out with video and slr - the camera takes the enjoyment out of it for me. I hunt for the dog and my own enjoyment.. The camera's are definitely not for me.. Good luck to anyone trying with stills or film.. The principal is not rocket science but when you get into it, it's not as easy as you are saying and becomes time consuming editing and uploading.. If it's that easy we'd be a wash with quality footage.. Think one thing that puts folk off producing and selling quality productions is the fact they just get copied and ripped off.. I'd like to see some of your vids J.. I've never took a lamping photo myself.. Heaps of pictures of dead game & some action shots,but ivr not one lamping picture. Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 If your filming to get a hour of decent footage how many rabbits would you need to run ?? Time you edit out when it goes fuzzy, times when cameras rolling but nothings Happening & then missed runs.. If been out with video and slr - the camera takes the enjoyment out of it for me. I hunt for the dog and my own enjoyment.. The camera's are definitely not for me.. Good luck to anyone trying with stills or film.. The principal is not rocket science but when you get into it, it's not as easy as you are saying and becomes time consuming editing and uploading.. If it's that easy we'd be a wash with quality footage.. Think one thing that puts folk off producing and selling quality productions is the fact they just get copied and ripped off.. I'd like to see some of your vids J.. I've never took a lamping photo myself.. Heaps of pictures of dead game & some action shots,but ivr not one lamping picture. How much lamping filming have you done buddy? Quote Link to post
Fox finder 19 Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 That's like saying taking a photo is easy.. We can all point a camera.. Getting a good shot is something else.. Making a quality product is not so easy.. That's from experience.. Well, it looks like we're both speaking from experience then. BUT, I reckon I've a few more years filming experience than you and I don't find lamping films difficult at all.But hey, that's just me...... So, good luck to ya..... p.s, would love to see a few of your lamping pics...... :whistling: You sound like a kid in a playground ? Quote Link to post
swg dave 333 Posted November 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 The new Enforcer 170 H I D is 4200 kelvin which equals about 2950 Lumens so going on the plr 500 and the tracer 150 which claim to be 1200 Lumens the new enforcer 170 H I D lamps must be some lamp with beam + brightness just to give you some idea i thought the kelvin rating was the colour of the light?4200 is more like daylight, the higher you go the more blue but not more powerful I believe? They do a blitz 70 watt that must be a f***ing monster cos Iv been testing mine out, and was lighting up houses up on a hill the other night, measured the distance on Google and it's 670 yards lol Yeah you are right s w y n i was reading on a forum that averaged the kelvin colour temp into lumen. Quote Link to post
swg dave 333 Posted November 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Dars would the H I D 170 Enforcer lamp be good enough for filming, with the beam not set on spot beam, but with the beam being more floodlit but using the150 for spotting as to not spook all the rabbits. OR if anybody has used the hid 170 enforcer lamp would you say that it would be ample amount for filming as i have tried with the 150 tracer but not good enough,, cheers...... Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 If your filming to get a hour of decent footage how many rabbits would you need to run ?? Time you edit out when it goes fuzzy, times when cameras rolling but nothings Happening & then missed runs.. If been out with video and slr - the camera takes the enjoyment out of it for me. I hunt for the dog and my own enjoyment.. The camera's are definitely not for me.. Good luck to anyone trying with stills or film.. The principal is not rocket science but when you get into it, it's not as easy as you are saying and becomes time consuming editing and uploading.. If it's that easy we'd be a wash with quality footage.. Think one thing that puts folk off producing and selling quality productions is the fact they just get copied and ripped off.. I'd like to see some of your vids J.. I've never took a lamping photo myself.. Heaps of pictures of dead game & some action shots,but ivr not one lamping picture. How much lamping filming have you done buddy? Not as much as you J.. I'm happier just going with the dog.. My pal made 3 full length Dvds. . For every 100 on film he'd run 300 . Times when dog caught out off the beam or the image was not clear. He would say himself the editing was more laborious than the lamping.. Waking up tired rabbits to gut, get them to game dealers, then off to work on little sleep.. Repeat that 4/5 nights then with all the computer pish and sitting in front of a screen.. It ain't for everyone. We filmed a few nights and I knew straight off it was not for me.. I found the whole thing tricky.. Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Dars would the H I D 170 Enforcer lamp be good enough for filming, with the beam not set on spot beam, but with the beam being more floodlit but using the150 for spotting as to not spook all the rabbits. OR if anybody has used the hid 170 enforcer lamp would you say that it would be ample amount for filming as i have tried with the 150 tracer but not good enough,, cheers...... trust me, the beam set to flood is like daylight, it's cracking light. Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,736 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) Just an opinion,...and I might well be wrong... But,..when using a movie camera (after dark) to capture some exciting sport with lurcher and dazzler,..the most important criteria is positioning,.... Obviously, there are several other factors,..such as plenty of light to film by,..loads and loads of critters, to have a crack at,..and dogs that are manageable,...sensible canine actors, not temperamental luvvies... Whereas,..when using a still camera, after dark to film action scenes,..there are a whole lot more factors to take into account. In fact, the basic idea and concept ain't an easy fecker,..and could even form the nucleus for a genuinely serious photographic project. It is not one to be undertaken lightly Edited November 22, 2015 by Phil Lloyd 2 Quote Link to post
swg dave 333 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Phil would you recommend a vid cam with a view finder , and would you know of a good vid cam or know someone that does. This is simply for my personal enjoyment to sit back and just look back at now and again to see my and a couple of friends dogs runs, cheers mate. Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,736 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 I wouldn't have a fecking clue Dave... My last foray into the darkness with an SVHS Microwave on my shoulder, was in the late 1980s/early 1990s,...and the results back then were hardly earth shattering (bit amateurish) ...I've learned my lesson,...leave it to the pros... 1 Quote Link to post
steve2507 522 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 A telescopic mono pod that the camera can fit too and tape lamp to the side Quote Link to post
swg dave 333 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 I wouldn't have a fecking clue Dave... My last foray into the darkness with an SVHS Microwave on my shoulder, was in the late 1980s/early 1990s,...and the results back then were hardly earth shattering (bit amateurish) ...I've learned my lesson,...leave it to the pros... I remember the old VHS vid cams where the VHS tape sat in the side of the camera lol, but in their day they were the 9,s and cost a lot of money compared to todays. Quote Link to post
swg dave 333 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 A telescopic mono pod that the camera can fit too and tape lamp to the side Cheers Steve i tried that setup to no avail with an old sony vidcam have you got any footage of that setup mate.. Quote Link to post
swg dave 333 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Dars would the H I D 170 Enforcer lamp be good enough for filming, with the beam not set on spot beam, but with the beam being more floodlit but using the150 for spotting as to not spook all the rabbits. OR if anybody has used the hid 170 enforcer lamp would you say that it would be ample amount for filming as i have tried with the 150 tracer but not good enough,, cheers...... trust me, the beam set to flood is like daylight, it's cracking light. Thank you mate Quote Link to post
top dog 1 3,148 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 A telescopic mono pod that the camera can fit too and tape lamp to the side why not put the cam on top of the lamp 1 Quote Link to post
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