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This might sound completely off topic, but yesterday evening I saw Malala Yousafzai on TV, and she was saying that she had been able to forgive the man who had shot and nearly killed her, because she wanted to show people that nothing is achieved by revenge and bitterness.

 

Now, if a girl who was nearly killed can do this, why the hell can't we lurcher people learn to forgive the past errors made by all of us. Life shouldn't be about being scared to make mistakes; it should be about learning from past mistakes, admitting them and moving forward. If we simply carry on going round and round in ever decreasing circles spouting venom and hate at each other. There is not one of us who is perfect, and although this might sound trite, we could all do with a good dose of humility and own up to our own faults and bloody well learn to listen to what others have to say without trying to twist the knife in an open wound.

 

There is no shame in having messed up in the past. It is what we do NOW that counts. To me, if someone is unable or unwilling to forgive the errors in another person or organisation, it means they are scared of owning up to their own perceived faults and errors. Can we not be big enough to put aside the pettiness and work towards a common cause?

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This might sound completely off topic, but yesterday evening I saw Malala Yousafzai on TV, and she was saying that she had been able to forgive the man who had shot and nearly killed her, because she wanted to show people that nothing is achieved by revenge and bitterness.

 

Now, if a girl who was nearly killed can do this, why the hell can't we lurcher people learn to forgive the past errors made by all of us. Life shouldn't be about being scared to make mistakes; it should be about learning from past mistakes, admitting them and moving forward. If we simply carry on going round and round in ever decreasing circles spouting venom and hate at each other. There is not one of us who is perfect, and although this might sound trite, we could all do with a good dose of humility and own up to our own faults and bloody well learn to listen to what others have to say without trying to twist the knife in an open wound.

 

There is no shame in having messed up in the past. It is what we do NOW that counts. To me, if someone is unable or unwilling to forgive the errors in another person or organisation, it means they are scared of owning up to their own perceived faults and errors. Can we not be big enough to put aside the pettiness and work towards a common cause?

Good post..

 

As very much an "average Joe" who happens to enjoy the odd walk out with a lurcher, I was really pleased to see people willing to give up their own time and money for the good of the rest of us "average joes"... Problem is I've no idea what this bickering is about... Egos???

 

I hope I'm reading between the line correctly and there is going to be some type of commitee representing lurchers and lurcher work, regardless of the name or acronyms it is know as...

I had never heard of the old lurcher club as like most of the lads I know, we just keep our heads down and enjoy a walk out... At least through this web site and a couple of lads willing to put a bit of effort into it there's a few more people that were/are willing to help out if needs be...

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Losing a face to face battle, fine, the better man won. Stabbed in the back, dishonourable, and unforgivable, no trust can ever be afforded to that friend again.

 

I'm sorry mate, this is what I mean... I may be alone in this but I dint know the history of the politics so I dint know who stabbed who in the back or why???

I'm probably a bit thick but I don't think I'm the only one on here who has no idea why there is any kind of ill feeling amongst, groups or people that ate supposed to be fighting the same battle..??

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I have no clue, was waiting on jb to update me on this roman play, haha

Well Joe, that's 2 of us that have admitted we haven't a clue what's going on... Anyone else want to join our club? Lol

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Losing a face to face battle, fine, the better man won. Stabbed in the back, dishonourable, and unforgivable, no trust can ever be afforded to that friend again.

I'm sorry mate, this is what I mean... I may be alone in this but I dint know the history of the politics so I dint know who stabbed who in the back or why???

I'm probably a bit thick but I don't think I'm the only one on here who has no idea why there is any kind of ill feeling amongst, groups or people that ate supposed to be fighting the same battle..??

 

 

I'm the same mate, I have nothing to do with clubs on the whole because of this type of crap, I don't understand the back stabbing amongst fellow members, and don't want to. Like you, I just get on with my end of things, and enjoy what I do. Can't give you a like NK, ran out already mate. :laugh:

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good luck to all those trying to promote Lurcher work in a good light .....unfortunately the tide is against them...we carnt every agree/stand by each other so how are we ever going to have a chance to get others to agree with us about Lurcher work .....

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good luck to all those trying to promote Lurcher work in a good light .....unfortunately the tide is against them...we carnt every agree/stand by each other so how are we ever going to have a chance to get others to agree with us about Lurcher work .....

In a nutshell...

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good luck to all those trying to promote Lurcher work in a good light .....unfortunately the tide is against them...we carnt every agree/stand by each other so how are we ever going to have a chance to get others to agree with us about Lurcher work .....

In a nutshell...

 

 

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Always been the problem with fieldsports, arguing amongst ourselves about things as if we dont agree with hunting almost and the problem is we as lurcher owners have the problem not only with others but each other. Shooters dislike 'their' deer being taken by lurchers, fox hunters dont like lurchers taking foxes, gamekeepers dis like us and then we have daywalkers not wanting us touching their hares.

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Always been the problem with fieldsports, arguing amongst ourselves about things as if we dont agree with hunting almost and the problem is we as lurcher owners have the problem not only with others but each other. Shooters dislike 'their' deer being taken by lurchers, fox hunters dont like lurchers taking foxes, gamekeepers dis like us and then we have daywalkers not wanting us touching their hares.

Very true mate look at the coursing boys there the first ones to giv it the whole " lamping hares is wrong and cruel" then there's the shooters giving it " deer should be shot not coursed" how can we change the mind of are enemies when are enemies are with are own ranks....country sport should be praised and protected for all aspects be it fishg lamping shooting daytime hare coursing daytime deer coursing when should stand to get her as a united force to help get the hunting ban abolished.....not blame it on others by preaching about said chosen sport and penalising another

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As i have stated else where, and it was my intention to remain silent until we ( hopefully) set up a meeting with Alan and Your steering group ,

Desertbred and Paulus are doing a great job of knocking down bridges that have been built.

I suggest You use some decorum, as Your peers are.

would that be the same decorum as that used to re brand and elect a committee without approaching the group that was already looking into starting a group, something that yourselves accused that group of doing without consulting yourselves, speaking for myself. what is the point in re instating a group that has consisted of one man for over 20 years that very few of the new generation of dog lads have ever even herd of, who you say has done so much for the last 20 years that we find our self still under represented and look upon as the dark sheep of the hunting world. where was this when the media was informing everyone that all lurcher work is illegal etc all over national tv and the press, where was this when the animal welfare bill was brought in so the rspca could use it in place of the hunting act to get lads banned for keeping dogs for life and extortionate kenneling and legal cost. google search shows nothing from the association since about 2000, i am sorry to say that a change and a united front is the only way to move forward the old ways never worked back then so why stick to them now. everybody wants the same thing as far as more representation goes but using the same old methods will only achieve what has happened in the past 20 or more years, a vote for change is a vote for the future :laugh:

 

Well, Well, At last after nearly twenty years the dragon awakes. the Association of Lurcher Clubs is accepted by both the Countryside Alliance and the Council of Hunting Associations as the governing body for Lurcher/Longdog work. As Chairman of the Association I sit on the board of the Council of Hunting Associations on whose behalf I have attended meetings in the House of Commons and At the head office of the Countryside Alliance in Kennington road in London and have direct contact with the Countryside Alliance.

Before the Ban the Association of Lurcher Clubs (ALC) was one of the biggest hunting associations affiliated to the Council of Hunting Associations, (CHA) One of the reasons for it's popularity was the "Forley Cup" which brought coursing men/women from all parts of the country to test their Longdogs in the biggest and hardest competition for coursing Lurchers the coursing world had ever known. The competition and membership fees enabled the ALC to take the fight for hunting with Lurchers to the forefront against the hunting ban. We along with other hunting associations lost.

After the ban was put in place, membership of all the forms of hunting suffered. We, the ALC most of all. Since 2004 I have done the best that I could with no club income. I have attended every CLA and Midland Game Fairs at my own expence, with a display within the Countryside Alliance marque, promoting the repeal of the hunting ban with special interest for the Lurcher/Longdog owner. In short, you already have a organisation that is already in a position and has the contacts to represent the working Lurcher/Longdog Hunter.

As I have stated I attended the CLA Game Fair to represent Lurcher work for twenty years, and yet, this year I found that my attendance was not needed!! I went any way and spoke to Tim Bonner who stated that due to cut backs the marquee was smaller and there was no room. I stood by the massive stall selling various Items and wondered If this was the truth of the matter.

There you have it. The Association stands ready to do your wishes, But the ALC needs Membership and finance. If there are enough of you that really want to fight let me know and I will organise a venue for a meeting. So come on stand and be counted.

 

Alan Tyer

Chairman

Association of Lurcher Clubs.

 

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Your obviously speaking for the lagbi as no one has stated your right or wrong from the steering committee :hmm:

Why are they so keen to speak to AT if hes done as little as you claim? Could they need him? What did Tim Bonner say to them and what did he offer to lagbi?

AT submitted the AWL article several weeks prior to the meeting with TB to the CMW would it have made any difference if it had been published earlier?

Y.I.S Leeview

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As i have stated else where, and it was my intention to remain silent until we ( hopefully) set up a meeting with Alan and Your steering group ,

Desertbred and Paulus are doing a great job of knocking down bridges that have been built.

I suggest You use some decorum, as Your peers are.

would that be the same decorum as that used to re brand and elect a committee without approaching the group that was already looking into starting a group, something that yourselves accused that group of doing without consulting yourselves, speaking for myself. what is the point in re instating a group that has consisted of one man for over 20 years that very few of the new generation of dog lads have ever even herd of, who you say has done so much for the last 20 years that we find our self still under represented and look upon as the dark sheep of the hunting world. where was this when the media was informing everyone that all lurcher work is illegal etc all over national tv and the press, where was this when the animal welfare bill was brought in so the rspca could use it in place of the hunting act to get lads banned for keeping dogs for life and extortionate kenneling and legal cost. google search shows nothing from the association since about 2000, i am sorry to say that a change and a united front is the only way to move forward the old ways never worked back then so why stick to them now. everybody wants the same thing as far as more representation goes but using the same old methods will only achieve what has happened in the past 20 or more years, a vote for change is a vote for the future :laugh:

 

Well, Well, At last after nearly twenty years the dragon awakes. the Association of Lurcher Clubs is accepted by both the Countryside Alliance and the Council of Hunting Associations as the governing body for Lurcher/Longdog work. As Chairman of the Association I sit on the board of the Council of Hunting Associations on whose behalf I have attended meetings in the House of Commons and At the head office of the Countryside Alliance in Kennington road in London and have direct contact with the Countryside Alliance.

Before the Ban the Association of Lurcher Clubs (ALC) was one of the biggest hunting associations affiliated to the Council of Hunting Associations, (CHA) One of the reasons for it's popularity was the "Forley Cup" which brought coursing men/women from all parts of the country to test their Longdogs in the biggest and hardest competition for coursing Lurchers the coursing world had ever known. The competition and membership fees enabled the ALC to take the fight for hunting with Lurchers to the forefront against the hunting ban. We along with other hunting associations lost.

After the ban was put in place, membership of all the forms of hunting suffered. We, the ALC most of all. Since 2004 I have done the best that I could with no club income. I have attended every CLA and Midland Game Fairs at my own expence, with a display within the Countryside Alliance marque, promoting the repeal of the hunting ban with special interest for the Lurcher/Longdog owner. In short, you already have a organisation that is already in a position and has the contacts to represent the working Lurcher/Longdog Hunter.

As I have stated I attended the CLA Game Fair to represent Lurcher work for twenty years, and yet, this year I found that my attendance was not needed!! I went any way and spoke to Tim Bonner who stated that due to cut backs the marquee was smaller and there was no room. I stood by the massive stall selling various Items and wondered If this was the truth of the matter.

There you have it. The Association stands ready to do your wishes, But the ALC needs Membership and finance. If there are enough of you that really want to fight let me know and I will organise a venue for a meeting. So come on stand and be counted.

 

Alan Tyer

Chairman

Association of Lurcher Clubs.

 

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Your obviously speaking for the lagbi as no one has stated your right or wrong from the steering committee :hmm:

Why are they so keen to speak to AT if hes done as little as you claim? Could they need him? What did Tim Bonner say to them and what did he offer to lagbi?

AT submitted the AWL article several weeks prior to the meeting with TB to the CMW would it have made any difference if it had been published earlier?

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You just don't seem to understand my point, all above is very well and good. commendable and all that, but the fact is the ALC as it is now has been one man for decades as he stated himself in the other post. Now we are expected to believe that this will be the Savior of the working lurcher. again as said above, seats on this council and that council for decades, one man, no membership but again this club is going to save the working lurcher. i speak for myself and am behold-ant to no committee. if the ALC is so close to the CA Tim Bonner than how is it even he feels that the working lurcher is under represented? please tell me how this club will make any more difference now than it has in the past, bear in mind you have used all the existing features and people of a club nobody wanted to be a member of since about 2005, If your hammer is insufficient then get a bigger hammer as hammering away with the old one will only succeed in giving you blisters and a bad head.

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As i have stated else where, and it was my intention to remain silent until we ( hopefully) set up a meeting with Alan and Your steering group ,

Desertbred and Paulus are doing a great job of knocking down bridges that have been built.

I suggest You use some decorum, as Your peers are.

would that be the same decorum as that used to re brand and elect a committee without approaching the group that was already looking into starting a group, something that yourselves accused that group of doing without consulting yourselves, speaking for myself. what is the point in re instating a group that has consisted of one man for over 20 years that very few of the new generation of dog lads have ever even herd of, who you say has done so much for the last 20 years that we find our self still under represented and look upon as the dark sheep of the hunting world. where was this when the media was informing everyone that all lurcher work is illegal etc all over national tv and the press, where was this when the animal welfare bill was brought in so the rspca could use it in place of the hunting act to get lads banned for keeping dogs for life and extortionate kenneling and legal cost. google search shows nothing from the association since about 2000, i am sorry to say that a change and a united front is the only way to move forward the old ways never worked back then so why stick to them now. everybody wants the same thing as far as more representation goes but using the same old methods will only achieve what has happened in the past 20 or more years, a vote for change is a vote for the future :laugh:

 

Well, Well, At last after nearly twenty years the dragon awakes. the Association of Lurcher Clubs is accepted by both the Countryside Alliance and the Council of Hunting Associations as the governing body for Lurcher/Longdog work. As Chairman of the Association I sit on the board of the Council of Hunting Associations on whose behalf I have attended meetings in the House of Commons and At the head office of the Countryside Alliance in Kennington road in London and have direct contact with the Countryside Alliance.

Before the Ban the Association of Lurcher Clubs (ALC) was one of the biggest hunting associations affiliated to the Council of Hunting Associations, (CHA) One of the reasons for it's popularity was the "Forley Cup" which brought coursing men/women from all parts of the country to test their Longdogs in the biggest and hardest competition for coursing Lurchers the coursing world had ever known. The competition and membership fees enabled the ALC to take the fight for hunting with Lurchers to the forefront against the hunting ban. We along with other hunting associations lost.

After the ban was put in place, membership of all the forms of hunting suffered. We, the ALC most of all. Since 2004 I have done the best that I could with no club income. I have attended every CLA and Midland Game Fairs at my own expence, with a display within the Countryside Alliance marque, promoting the repeal of the hunting ban with special interest for the Lurcher/Longdog owner. In short, you already have a organisation that is already in a position and has the contacts to represent the working Lurcher/Longdog Hunter.

As I have stated I attended the CLA Game Fair to represent Lurcher work for twenty years, and yet, this year I found that my attendance was not needed!! I went any way and spoke to Tim Bonner who stated that due to cut backs the marquee was smaller and there was no room. I stood by the massive stall selling various Items and wondered If this was the truth of the matter.

There you have it. The Association stands ready to do your wishes, But the ALC needs Membership and finance. If there are enough of you that really want to fight let me know and I will organise a venue for a meeting. So come on stand and be counted.

 

Alan Tyer

Chairman

Association of Lurcher Clubs.

 

from the locked topic

 

Your obviously speaking for the lagbi as no one has stated your right or wrong from the steering committee :hmm:

Why are they so keen to speak to AT if hes done as little as you claim? Could they need him? What did Tim Bonner say to them and what did he offer to lagbi?

AT submitted the AWL article several weeks prior to the meeting with TB to the CMW would it have made any difference if it had been published earlier?

Y.I.S Leeview

 

As you are aware, I have withdrawn from the LAGBI steering committee and really wanted to see the best progress made. There are plenty of lads who are only just coming on to read this topic and you just can't stay out of it can you ? All the while causing trouble. You sit on the committee of the AWL and you come on spouting like you do ? You should have more common sense and decorum. You are a f***ing PR disaster for the organisation you represent

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Always been the problem with fieldsports, arguing amongst ourselves about things as if we dont agree with hunting almost and the problem is we as lurcher owners have the problem not only with others but each other. Shooters dislike 'their' deer being taken by lurchers, fox hunters dont like lurchers taking foxes, gamekeepers dis like us and then we have daywalkers not wanting us touching their hares.

very true .our own worst enemy , keep quiet and just do my thing .its worked for me for 40 odd years so ill carry on :thumbs:

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