reaper1064 285 Posted July 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 They are left alone probably because it's too expensive fighting the court of human rights ( or should that be terrorist rights ) to get rid of him out of the country. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Often wonder if these clerics etc are left alone , so they can be bugged for the information, so the security services get a bigger picture of what's happening Abu Hamza the HOOK from Finsbury Park Mosque ,when he was kicked out as Mullah by the Mosque committee he used to hold Friday prayers in the Road heused to preach his Radical kutba shite in the road in front of the Police and security services. they even used to close the road for him to do it. He was on bail at the time and legal aid defending attempts to deport him tell me if you were on bail and were still committing illegal activities would you be left alone ? The pair of c**ts who decapitated Lee Rigby were from this Hook b*****ds congregation. Why leave them while they radicalise more and more youngsters? These families that have gone to join Daesh in Syria they were all known to have links to radicals. Intelligence gathering in my day was obtained at source ,some may argue that this source is in the Mosques, these clerics are trained before they get here and any atrocities around the world are planned far away from the places they happen , this is basic knowledge. This intelligence gathering in the hatcheries does go on but still these poisoners of young minds are allowed to come and preach their bollocks. I care about human life and I also care about Islam these people care about neither they take innocent life and try to f**k up my faith. You dont wait for the fox to get into the chicken house you exterminate it in or near its earth, what is that old saying <" prevention is better than cure". 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,623 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 For whatever reason recent British Gov.'s have shied away from such bold preemptive action in favour of having air tight intelligence and only taking bold action when an immediate threat develops. It's shit but in our 'free' democratic western society we've taken the concept so f***ing far that our police, security services and even military are bogged down with legal inquiries and paperwork every time they so much as raise their voices. We're our own worst enemy. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Mlitary the world over learn from the same text books and military history, what is the use of the training if you then fail to use it ? There is only any kind of freedom because a very small minority are willing to fight for it, Politicians the world over have the same DNA they wont to subjugate the people so I dont buy into the " Free Democratic western society bollocks " Its Civilians and Soldiers who die and suffer in conflicts not politicians,unfortunately 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,623 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Mlitary the world over learn from the same text books and military history, what is the use of the training if you then fail to use it ? There is only any kind of freedom because a very small minority are willing to fight for it, Politicians the world over have the same DNA they wont to subjugate the people so I dont buy into the " Free Democratic western society bollocks " Its Civilians and Soldiers who die and suffer in conflicts not politicians,unfortunately That's why I put free in apostrophe's. The military the world over might learn from the same text books but they don't all have to play by the same rules. That's the difference. It's well publicised how legal framework has bogged our side down to the point of ineffectiveness. Recent Gov.'s seem to have taken the approach of "don't take bold action" to avoid this shit storm, instead they take the approach of knowing absolutely everything about the enemy, act in the shadows and only act boldly when an immediate threat presents. It's western principles taken to madness! Other countries, less westernised countries seem to take a much less tolerant view. In cases of national security, security services are judge, jury and if needs be executioner for potential threats. That's not to say they don't value intelligence, like we do, but they're not afraid of bold action, they're not bogged down with the constant threat of human rights legal framework that seems to terrify our Ministry of Defence and Home Office. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 How people get annoyed at travellers dodging abit of tax i dont know. More annoying to know our mps line their pockets give no fucks for the rest of us and c**ts like this live in houses most cant afford and has money given to him all by the same country he hates and would happily see destoried. Would think a few lads would pay a couple of youngsters to give the bloke a hard time. You're a young lad with no kids or mortgage to worry about, why don't you pull your finger out and do something yourself if you feel that strongly about it instead of bleating on forums about what other people should do? You could look at it that ive also got my whole life ahead of me and dont need a criminam record and risk loosing my job. I have said I am no millionaire but id have no problem putting up a few grand towards educating extremists. Nothing illegal or sinister just money towards a group to go out and debate those with extreme views and tackle them head on . Dgd you seem to support the c**ts i hope your wifes covered in a burka. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Often wonder if these clerics etc are left alone , so they can be bugged for the information, so the security services get a bigger picture of what's happening Abu Hamza the HOOK from Finsbury Park Mosque ,when he was kicked out as Mullah by the Mosque committee he used to hold Friday prayers in the Road heused to preach his Radical kutba shite in the road in front of the Police and security services. they even used to close the road for him to do it. He was on bail at the time and legal aid defending attempts to deport him tell me if you were on bail and were still committing illegal activities would you be left alone ? The pair of c**ts who decapitated Lee Rigby were from this Hook b*****ds congregation. Why leave them while they radicalise more and more youngsters? These families that have gone to join Daesh in Syria they were all known to have links to radicals. Intelligence gathering in my day was obtained at source ,some may argue that this source is in the Mosques, these clerics are trained before they get here and any atrocities around the world are planned far away from the places they happen , this is basic knowledge. This intelligence gathering in the hatcheries does go on but still these poisoners of young minds are allowed to come and preach their bollocks. I care about human life and I also care about Islam these people care about neither they take innocent life and try to f**k up my faith. You dont wait for the fox to get into the chicken house you exterminate it in or near its earth, what is that old saying <" prevention is better than cure". Never thought I would agree with you but got me with this one lol. I am convinced anjem is actually a spy lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,255 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 I have just read an article in the Telegraph about this c**t. I have a few questions . Why with the intelligence on this character is he still walking around free after 15 years of "Trying to Deport him" I was criticised the other day for posting that sometimes in the interests of safety and security freedoms and rights have to be curtailed this is an example . Apparantly it is well documented about this guy and others activities yet they are able to continue their blatant terror activities and do this at the expense of the public exchequer . I am sick to the back teeth of hearing they play the race card or the law sides with them This c**t , Anjum Choudhry and numorous others do you think they would be able to do this shite in their countries of origin would they f**k. Abu Qatada who was deported to Egypt after years of ducking addressed a gathering by video link in an Irish community centre in London the other day the meeting was also attended by Mauzam Beg ex Guantanamo inmate why was this allowed to take place these are blatant risks to national security , Many times I have read the Muslim community know whats going on, they support it , they dont say anything. News flash your Government, the Police , the Security agencies and departments all know whats going on but say and do f**k all. I read some of the utter tripe the usual suspects on here post you all know who they are ,but none of them take a lead and put their rants into concrete proposals or anything else just try to cause racial tension and thats it. One post on here suggesting to pay some one to go and teach this cleric a lesson yet the one suggesting it hasnt got the bottle to do f**k all himself. All these undesirables need visas to enter the UK why in view of intelligence are they issued with the visa in the first place , if they involve in illegal activity cancel the visa and deport them f**k the human rights act dont talk to me about civilised society when you fight terrorism you need to go down the sewer and get dirty or at least dont tie hands behind backs of people that have been trained for years to do the jobs that civilised people like to imagine only happens in films and books. Great post Ayatollah, I agree with every word of that. I wasn't criticising you the the other day but I will admit I wasn't that clear about the meaning of what I wrote. I simply meant that it's makes no sense and is totally unfair to take away my rights and freedoms.......in all fairness there are not that many middle aged white blokes getting on aeroplanes and flying them into buildings or committing suicide attacks so why should I be subjected to the same draconian snooping laws as an asian bloke of 25 to 35 ? But as I said before, in that post your totally correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,379 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Ethic profiling is the only way!!! Fuuck the do gooders and twats shouting racist!! See how fuuckin liberal they are when its their 12 year old daughter getting ass fuuked by 30 curry smelling mussies. Cnuts! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trenchfoot 4,243 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Ethic profiling is the only way!!! Fuuck the do gooders and twats shouting racist!! See how fuuckin liberal they are when its their 12 year old daughter getting ass fuuked by 30 curry smelling mussies. Cnuts! not sure what you are getting at Mush. About time you got off that fence! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toby63 1,236 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 According to MSN news the Cleric allegedly behind the Tunisia attack lives in the UK and claims 50k a year on disability allowances. If this is true then they need to ship his ass over to Tunisia and let them deal with him. He wouldn't get a cushy cell over there.you got a link for this pal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,379 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Boils my piss it does as I said my daughter is already being harassed by them paki fuucks in Bradford!!! To any services reading thinking you have me profiled get off your f****n lazy arses and sort these cnuts out doing the raping not the ones getting pissed off with it, there's good chaps Edited July 7, 2015 by mushroom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,173 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 to be fair to you desertbred, i agree with your post, but why havent we seen a muslim peace rally through london? or these other muslim leaders in gb voice the same opinions as yours in the big post last page? they sit like a dildo and say eff all then cry race, bigotry, bla bla when us natives get annoyed? actions speak louder than words and by the actions of most muslim leaders in gb shows theyre mute. thats where your communities need to say enough is enough and weed your gardens of the filfth among it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukey 1,620 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Ethic profiling is the only way!!! Fuuck the do gooders and twats shouting racist!! See how fuuckin liberal they are when its their 12 year old daughter getting ass fuuked by 30 curry smelling mussies. Cnuts! could you try wording it a bit better mate! I know it's the harsh truth ect but I just really didn't like reading your post there! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,379 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Lukey appreciated but still its the bones truth mate Katchum she's on her way her for a month with a view to her moving here later this year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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