fieldsportsman 107 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Am after a guard dog if anyone has one for sale must be around 6 month, must be kennelled. After alsation really but will consider others close to kent as possible 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,303 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Get a bullmastiff. Supposed to be great guard dogs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peterhunter86 8,627 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 My brother has a an American bull dog x old English bulldog he's a great gaurd dog but I prefer my jrt he lets me know if anything is up 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,587 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Get a bullmastiff. Supposed to be great guard dogs had them in the 80s, they were good in the old days 1930s , when were used as keepers night dogs . but today bull mastiff are unfit,docile and to big to work proper, the old dogs were about -100lb fit agile dogs, todays pet stuff show stuff go up to 140lb slow+ bad hips ,the only bullmastiff I seen any good today was x to a pit it looked more like the old type bullmastiff of the 1930s. if wanted a good guard/watch dog get a well bred Alsatian from working lines, a 80lb male will stop any man , and be far more alert than any bullmastiff 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,303 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Get a bullmastiff. Supposed to be great guard dogs had them in the 80s, they were good in the old days 1930s , when were used as keepers night dogs . but today bull mastiff are unfit,docile and to big to work proper, the old dogs were about -100lb fit agile dogs, todays pet stuff show stuff go up to 140lb slow+ bad hips ,the only bullmastiff I seen any good today was x to a pit it looked more like the old type bullmastiff of the 1930s. if wanted a good guard/watch dog get a well bred Alsatian from working lines, a 80lb male will stop any man , and be far more alert than any bullmastiff you may be right . I was just going on what a i heard david hancock say in a mastiff documentary . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
northern lad 2,292 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Get a bullmastiff. Supposed to be great guard dogs had them in the 80s, they were good in the old days 1930s , when were used as keepers night dogs . but today bull mastiff are unfit,docile and to big to work proper, the old dogs were about -100lb fit agile dogs, todays pet stuff show stuff go up to 140lb slow+ bad hips ,the only bullmastiff I seen any good today was x to a pit it looked more like the old type bullmastiff of the 1930s. if wanted a good guard/watch dog get a well bred Alsatian from working lines, a 80lb male will stop any man , and be far more alert than any bullmastiff Agree 100% on the Bullmastiffs Ray Wouldn't have an Alsatian though,cant stand em 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,587 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Get a bullmastiff. Supposed to be great guard dogs had them in the 80s, they were good in the old days 1930s , when were used as keepers night dogs . but today bull mastiff are unfit,docile and to big to work proper, the old dogs were about -100lb fit agile dogs, todays pet stuff show stuff go up to 140lb slow+ bad hips ,the only bullmastiff I seen any good today was x to a pit it looked more like the old type bullmastiff of the 1930s. if wanted a good guard/watch dog get a well bred Alsatian from working lines, a 80lb male will stop any man , and be far more alert than any bullmastiff you may be right . I was just going on what a i heard david hancock say in a mastiff documentary . yeh he would, because he keeps the breed. I ve spoke to him few times ,and he knows him self that the breed of today , not patch on the old type bullmastiff of the 30s. as said I had the breed and came out of the breed because of there health probs and temp, there were sharp temps years ago , today to docile for proper guard work. I knew few people even back in the 80s were thinking of x ridgebacks to bullmastiffs to get better type dog , but that was frowned upon like (bandogs) pitx bullmastiff or pit x Nero's . but you would have got better type healthier guard dog than a pure show bred bullmastiff . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,587 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Get a bullmastiff. Supposed to be great guard dogs had them in the 80s, they were good in the old days 1930s , when were used as keepers night dogs . but today bull mastiff are unfit,docile and to big to work proper, the old dogs were about -100lb fit agile dogs, todays pet stuff show stuff go up to 140lb slow+ bad hips ,the only bullmastiff I seen any good today was x to a pit it looked more like the old type bullmastiff of the 1930s. if wanted a good guard/watch dog get a well bred Alsatian from working lines, a 80lb male will stop any man , and be far more alert than any bullmastiff Agree 100% on the Bullmastiffs Ray Wouldn't have an Alsatian though,cant stand em how about Dutch shepherd or a bel mal , there good dogs , but bit more hyper than Alsatians . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,303 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Get a bullmastiff. Supposed to be great guard dogs had them in the 80s, they were good in the old days 1930s , when were used as keepers night dogs . but today bull mastiff are unfit,docile and to big to work proper, the old dogs were about -100lb fit agile dogs, todays pet stuff show stuff go up to 140lb slow+ bad hips ,the only bullmastiff I seen any good today was x to a pit it looked more like the old type bullmastiff of the 1930s. if wanted a good guard/watch dog get a well bred Alsatian from working lines, a 80lb male will stop any man , and be far more alert than any bullmastiff Agree 100% on the Bullmastiffs Ray Wouldn't have an Alsatian though,cant stand em how about Dutch shepherd or a bel mal , there good dogs , but bit more hyper than Alsatians . I love the colour of Dutch shepherds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 6,818 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Get a bullmastiff. Supposed to be great guard dogs had them in the 80s, they were good in the old days 1930s , when were used as keepers night dogs . but today bull mastiff are unfit,docile and to big to work proper, the old dogs were about -100lb fit agile dogs, todays pet stuff show stuff go up to 140lb slow+ bad hips ,the only bullmastiff I seen any good today was x to a pit it looked more like the old type bullmastiff of the 1930s. if wanted a good guard/watch dog get a well bred Alsatian from working lines, a 80lb male will stop any man , and be far more alert than any bullmastiff Agree 100% on the Bullmastiffs Ray Wouldn't have an Alsatian though,cant stand em how about Dutch shepherd or a bel mal , there good dogs , but bit more hyper than Alsatians .I train with lads who have both breeds every weekend and I wouldn't recommend them to anyone as a guard dog.Brilliant dogs for security work or protection sport but for just looking after somewhere they will drive themselves and you mad. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,587 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Get a bullmastiff. Supposed to be great guard dogs had them in the 80s, they were good in the old days 1930s , when were used as keepers night dogs . but today bull mastiff are unfit,docile and to big to work proper, the old dogs were about -100lb fit agile dogs, todays pet stuff show stuff go up to 140lb slow+ bad hips ,the only bullmastiff I seen any good today was x to a pit it looked more like the old type bullmastiff of the 1930s. if wanted a good guard/watch dog get a well bred Alsatian from working lines, a 80lb male will stop any man , and be far more alert than any bullmastiff Agree 100% on the Bullmastiffs Ray Wouldn't have an Alsatian though,cant stand em how about Dutch shepherd or a bel mal , there good dogs , but bit more hyper than Alsatians . I love the colour of Dutch shepherds there great dog, they not been ruined / over bred , so very good working dogs , smaller than gsd , but stronger type than most mals. I think there got bit of bull in there make up years back, that gives them the brindle colour and full on temp . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 The best guard dog you can get is my ex old woman. Looks like a boxerdog chewing a wasp. Got a deadly bite. Makes a hell of alot of racket. Don't eat much Oh and its black. If that helps. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,587 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Get a bullmastiff. Supposed to be great guard dogs had them in the 80s, they were good in the old days 1930s , when were used as keepers night dogs . but today bull mastiff are unfit,docile and to big to work proper, the old dogs were about -100lb fit agile dogs, todays pet stuff show stuff go up to 140lb slow+ bad hips ,the only bullmastiff I seen any good today was x to a pit it looked more like the old type bullmastiff of the 1930s. if wanted a good guard/watch dog get a well bred Alsatian from working lines, a 80lb male will stop any man , and be far more alert than any bullmastiff Agree 100% on the Bullmastiffs Ray Wouldn't have an Alsatian though,cant stand em how about Dutch shepherd or a bel mal , there good dogs , but bit more hyper than Alsatians .I train with lads who have both breeds every weekend and I wouldn't recommend them to anyone as a guard dog.Brilliant dogs for security work or protection sport but for just looking after somewhere they will drive themselves and you mad. that's true there both very hyper temps, compared to gsds . that's why I like Alsatians there more of a docile temp, Buck my 1x Alsatian x grey is very quite around my place never barks , he only comes to life if he got something to run or kill in the lamp . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 6,818 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Get a bullmastiff. Supposed to be great guard dogs had them in the 80s, they were good in the old days 1930s , when were used as keepers night dogs . but today bull mastiff are unfit,docile and to big to work proper, the old dogs were about -100lb fit agile dogs, todays pet stuff show stuff go up to 140lb slow+ bad hips ,the only bullmastiff I seen any good today was x to a pit it looked more like the old type bullmastiff of the 1930s. if wanted a good guard/watch dog get a well bred Alsatian from working lines, a 80lb male will stop any man , and be far more alert than any bullmastiff Agree 100% on the Bullmastiffs Ray Wouldn't have an Alsatian though,cant stand em how about Dutch shepherd or a bel mal , there good dogs , but bit more hyper than Alsatians . I love the colour of Dutch shepherds there great dog, they not been ruined / over bred , so very good working dogs , smaller than gsd , but stronger type than most mals. I think there got bit of bull in there make up years back, that gives them the brindle colour and full on temp . They still breed bull into them now if they think it will benefit them.My mate has one at the moment which is 1/8 bull and a very good 2 x winner at that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peterhunter86 8,627 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 The best guard dog you can get is my ex old woman. Looks like a boxerdog chewing a wasp. Got a deadly bite. Makes a hell of alot of racket. Don't eat much Oh and its black. If that helps. I think I went out with her litter mate I still have some pics of her around the house keeps rhe kids away from the fire and flies off the butter but turns the milk sour 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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