.22Lr On An 8 Acre Stable, A A New Fac Holder

[David Aiken 253]

Hi all, I have been approved for a .22lr on an 8 acre stable. I am sure, as a new FAC holder I will be restricted to this land. I will be holidaying on a working/shooting farm (Luckyard Farm) The farm is 300 acres and the owner has already said I can shoot my .22lr, shotgun and PCP air rifle (as it a shooting holiday farm it checked to a larger calibre than this) as long as my FAC is an “open” certificate. Will my FLO allow an “open” FAC to a new FAC holder?

[nasher1 258]

If the land has already been passed for firearms you will be able to shoot on it with your closed certificate

[Tremo 138]

Can't see an open ticket being granted to you for at least 12 to 18 months from grant. It may well be longer. It varies from force to force and also depends upon you as an individual.

 

As Nasher1 says though, you don't need an open ticket if your new land has already been cleared for the calibre that you intend to shoot there. I would explain this to the landowner.

 

ATB

[David Aiken 253]

Thanks, so if I have an invite to shoot on a farm who`s land has been FAC .22lr checked, I can shoot? My FLO seamed to think if I was on a paid shoot or paid holiday shoot I was ok, but no mention as to your suggestion. The whole experience thing gets me, I began shooting with my uncle (British Army 27 years) at 8 years old (well over 40 years ago) we shot regular with air rifles for 5 years or so, learning my "craft", backdrop ect.. I have been shooting regularly ever since, but this doesn't seam to count as experience?

[mad4it 693]

as above have already said you wont get a open ticket first grant you have to wait until you renew but you will be able to use the land with your closed ticket as it already passed for firearms

[shropshire dan 467]

Can't see an open ticket being granted to you for at least 12 to 18 months from grant. It may well be longer. It varies from force to force and also depends upon you as an individual.

 

As Nasher1 says though, you don't need an open ticket if your new land has already been cleared for the calibre that you intend to shoot there. I would explain this to the landowner.

 

ATB

+1 I had my .22 lr, hmr and .22-250 all open within 6 months but it is not at all the norm. I have practically 1000's of acres locally and as a part time self employed pest controller a open ticket is a must.

 

But as the lads have said if it's cleared for rimfire or above then your good to go matey

Edited March 27, 2015 by shropshire dan

[David Aiken 253]

Whilst on the subject of new FAC, I have kept a full and detailed account of my application process, times, dates ect... I will print this when my FAC finally turns up! I did ask one question of my FLO, can fox be shot with a .22lr? (Kent Police) Not really as people push the boundary, if we say 50yds people will try 60yds (and so on). What about .223, yes that fine! 300yds? My question is, if people push the distance with a .22lr, wont people also push the distance with .223 as well? Its as if we cant be trusted to shoot fox with .22lr at sub 50yd distances? As the BASC say “It’s the calibre of the man, not the calibre of the bullet which should be taken into consideration”

[walshie 2,804]

As you say, it's the person, not the calibre. Your analogy would work with any calibre. People who push the boundaries with live animals are irresponsible. Why risk wounding something when you can just get a bit closer and do the job properly? Or wait for another day.

[Slippery_Weasel 460]

I got my .22lr passed on a 6 acre field in an open ticket. I have and told them I had 000s of acres permission but asked them for an open ticket as I didn't want them going and pestering different landowners. They were happy with this. The 6 acre field is probably the most risky of the bits of land I shoot on and I told them this.

 

Ask, worse they will say is no

[The one 8,396]

Think my first cert was open they wait till your renewal with bigger calibers they brought in mentoring to get round that

[nasher1 258]

Think my first cert was open they wait till your renewal with bigger calibers they brought in mentoring to get round that

it wouldn't have been open from the start and mentoring has been done away with

[mad4it 693]

Whilst on the subject of new FAC, I have kept a full and detailed account of my application process, times, dates ect... I will print this when my FAC finally turns up! I did ask one question of my FLO, can fox be shot with a .22lr? (Kent Police) Not really as people push the boundary, if we say 50yds people will try 60yds (and so on). What about .223, yes that fine! 300yds? My question is, if people push the distance with a .22lr, wont people also push the distance with .223 as well? Its as if we cant be trusted to shoot fox with .22lr at sub 50yd distances? As the BASC say “It’s the calibre of the man, not the calibre of the bullet which should be taken into consideration”

sounds like you got the same flo as me

[Slippery_Weasel 460]

 

Think my first cert was open they wait till your renewal with bigger calibers they brought in mentoring to get round that

it wouldn't have been open from the start and mentoring has been done away with

Mine was. It also depends on different forces as to what they decide. Mine was north yorkshire

[Rake aboot 4,929]

First cert include .243 and was open due to the number of different permissions.

 

ALL certs should be open in my opinion.

[The one 8,396]

Mine was but before I put in for my own fire arms cert , I was a ranger in the commission and was shooting with a 270 which at that time I could use with the managers cert