sandymere 8,260 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 thou shalt not kill Killing Event by god and followers etc Reference Bible's Number Estimate 1 The Flood of Noah Gen 7:23 20,000,000 2 Abraham's war to rescue Lot Gen 14:17-19 1,000 3 Sodom and Gomorrah Gen 19:24 2,000 4 Lot's wife Gen 19:26 1 1 5 While they were sore, Dinah's brethren slew all the males Gen 34:1-31, Judith 9:2-3 2 1,000 6 Er for being wicked in the sight of the Lord Gen 38:7 1 1 7 Onan for spilling his seed Gen 38:10 1 1 8 A seven year worldwide famine Gen 41:25-54 70,000 9 There will be blood: The first plague of Egypt Ex 7:15-27 , Wis 11:7-8 10,000 10 The seventh plague: hail Ex 9:25 300,000 11 Firstborn Egyptian children Ex 12:29-30 500,000 12 The Lord took off their chariot wheels Ex 14:8-26 600 5,000 13 Amalekites Ex 17:13 1,000 14 Who is on the Lord's side?: Forcing friends and family to kill each other Ex 32:27-28 3,000 3,000 15 Aaron's golden calf Ex 32:35 1,000 16 God burns Aaron's sons to death for offering "strange fire" Lev 10:1-3 2 2 17 A blasphemer is stoned to death Lev 24:10-23 1 1 18 When the people complained, God burned them to death Num 11:1 100 19 While the flesh was still between their teeth, the Lord smote them will a very great plague Num 11:33 10,000 20 Ten scouts are killed for their honest report Num 14:35-45 10 110 21 A man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day is stoned to death Num 15:32-35 1 1 22 Korah, his companions, and their families are buried alive Num 16:27 3 9 23 God burns 250 people to death for burning incense Num 16:35 250 250 24 God kills 14,700 for complaining about God's killings Num 16:49 14,700 14,700 25 The massacre of the Aradies Num 21:1-2 3,000 26 God sent serpents to bite people for complaining about the lack of food and water Num 21:6 100 27 Phineas's double murder: A killing to end God's killing Num 25:1-11 24,002 24,002 28 The Midianite massacre: Have ye saved all the women alive? Num 31:1-35 6 200,000 29 God slowly killed the Israelite army Dt 2:14-16 500,000 30 God the giant killer Dt 2:21-22 5,000 31 God hardens King Sihon's heart so all his people can be killed Dt 2:33-34 1 5,000 32 Og and all the men women, and children in 60 cities Dt 3:6 1 60,000 33 The Jericho massacre Jos 6:21 1,000 34 Achan and his family Jos 7:10-26 1 5 35 The Ai massacre Jos 8:1-25 12,000 12,000 36 God stops the sun so Joshua can get his killing done in the daylight Jos 10:10-11 5,000 37 Five kings killed and hung on trees Jos 10:26 5 10,000 38 Joshua utterly destroyed all that breathed as the Lord commanded Jos 10:28-42 7 7,000 39 The genocide of twenty cities: There was not any left to breathe Jos 11:8-12 2 20,000 40 The Anakim: some more giant killing Jos 11:20-21 5,000 41 The Lord delivered the Canaanites and Perizzites Jg 1:4 10,000 10,000 42 The Jerusalem massacre Jg 1:8 1,000 43 Five massacres, a wedding, and God-proof iron chariots Jg 1:9-25 5,000 44 The Lord delivered Chushanrishathaim Jg 3:7-10 1 1,000 45 Ehud delivers a message from God Jg 3:15-22 1 1 46 God delivers 10,000 lusty Moabites Jg 3:28-29 10,000 10,000 47 Shamgar killed 600 Philistines with an ox goad Jg 3:31 600 600 48 Barak and God massacre the Canaanites Jg 4:15-16 1,000 49 Jael pounds a tent stake through a sleeping man's skull Jg 4:18-22 1 1 50 Gideon's story: The Lord set every man's sword against his fellow Jg 7:22 120,000 120,000 51 A city is massacred and 1000 burn to death because of God's evil spirit Jg 9:23-27 1,001 2,000 52 The Ammonite massacre Jg 11:32-33 20,000 53 Jephthah's daughter Jg 11:39 1 1 54 42,000 die for failing the "shibboleth" test Jg 12:4-7 42,000 42,000 55 Samson murdered 30 men for their clothes Jg 14:19 30 30 56 Samson killed 1000 men with the jawbone of an ass Jg 15:14-15 1,000 1,000 57 Samson killed 3000 in a suicide terrorist attack Jg 16:27-30 3,000 3,000 58 A holy civil war (it had something to do with rotting concubine body part messages) Jg 20:35-37 65,100 65,100 59 The end of Judges: two genocides and 200 stolen virgins Jg 21:10-14 4,000 60 God killed Eli's sons and 34,000 Israelite soldiers 1 Sam 2:25, 4:11 34,002 34,002 61 God smote them with hemorrhoids in their secret parts 1 Sam 5:1-12 3,000 62 50,070 killed for looking into the ark of the Lord 1 Sam 6:19 50,070 50,070 63 The Lord thundered a great thunder upon the Philistines 1 Sam 7:10-11 1,000 64 Another Ammonite massacre (and another God-inspired body part message) 1 Sam 11:6-13 1,000 65 Jonathan's first slaughter 1 Sam 14:12-14 20 20 66 God forces the Philistines to kill each other 1 Sam 14:20 1,000 67 The Amalekite genocide 1 Sam 15:2-3 10,000 68 Samuel hacks Agag to death before the Lord 1 Sam 15:32-33 1 1 69 In the valley of Elah: Goliath 1 Sam 17:51, 2 Sam 21:19 1 1 70 David buys a wife with 200 Philistine foreskins 1 Sam 18:27 200 200 71 The Lord said to David, Go and smite the Philistines 1 Sam 23:2-5 10,000 72 God killed Nabal (and David got his wife and other stuff) 1 Sam 25:38 1 1 73 David commits random acts of genocide for the Philistines 1 Sam 27:8-11 60,000 74 David spends the day killing Amalekites 1 Sam 30:17 1,000 75 God kills Saul, his sons, and his soldiers (because Saul didn't kill all the Amalekites) 1 Sam 31:2, 2 Chr 10:6 4 100 76 David kills the messenger 2 Sam 1:15 1 1 77 David killed, mutilated, and hung Rechab and Baanah 2 Sam 4:12 2 2 78 God helps David smite the Philistines from the front and the rear 2 Sam 5:19-25 2,000 79 God killed Uzzah for trying to keep the ark from falling 2 Sam 6:6-7, 1 Chr 13:9-10 1 1 David killed two-thirds of the Moabite POWs and enslaved the rest 2 Sam 8:2 667 81 And the Lord gave David victory wherever he went 2 Sam 8 - 10 65,850 66,850 82 David killed every male in Edom 2 Sam 8:13-14, 1 Kg 11:15-16, 1 Chr 18:12, Ps 60:1 15,000 25,000 83 Thus did David do to all the children of Ammon 2 Sam 11:1, 1 Chr 20:1 1,000 84 God slowly kills a baby 2 Sam 12:14-18 1 1 85 Seven sons of Saul are hung up before the Lord 2 Sam 21:1-9 7 3,000 86 David's mighty men and their amazing killings 2 Sam 23, 1 Chr 11 1,403 3,400 87 God killed 70,000 because of David had a census that God (or Satan) told him to do 2 Sam 24:15, 1 Chr 21:14 70,000 200,000 88 Solomon murdered Job and Shimei (per David's deathbed wish) 1 Kg 2:29-46 2 2 89 A tale of two prophets 1 Kg 13:11-24 1 1 90 Jeroboam's son: God kills another child 1 Kg 14:17 1 1 91 Jeroboam's family 1 Kg 15:29 10 92 Baasha's family and friends 1 Kg 16:11-12 20 93 Zimri burns to death 1 Kg 16:18-19 1 1 94 The drought of Elijah 1 Kg 17:1, Luke 4:25, James 5:17-18 3,000 95 Elijah kills 450 religious leaders in a prayer contest 1 Kg 18:22-40 450 450 96 The first God-assisted slaughter of the Syrians 1 Kg 20:20-21 10,000 97 God killed 100,000 Syrians for calling him a god of the hills 1 Kg 20:28-29 100,000 100,000 98 God killed 27,000 Syrians by making a wall fall on them 1 Kg 20:30 27,000 27,000 99 God sent a lion to kill a man for not smiting a prophet 1 Kg 20:35-36 1 1 100 God killed Ahab for not killing a captured king 1 Kg 20:42, 22:35 1 1 101 God burned 102 men to death for asking Elijah to come down from his hill 2 Kg 1:10-12 102 102 102 God killed Ahaziah for asking the wrong God 2 Kg 1:16-17, 2 Chr 22:7-9 1 1 103 God sent bears to kill 42 boys for making fun of a prophet's bald head 2 Kg 2:23-24 42 42 104 The Lord delivered the Moabites 2 Kg 3:18-25 5,000 105 A skeptic is trampled to death 2 Kg 7:2-20 1 1 106 God's seven year famine 2 Kg 8:1 7,000 107 Jehoram of Israel 2 Kg 9:24 1 1 108 Jezebel 2 Kg 9:33-37 1 1 109 Ahab's sons: 70 heads in two baskets 2 Kg 10:6-10 70 70 110 Ahab's hometown family, friends, and priests 2 Kg 10:11 20 111 Jehu killed Ahaziah's family 2 Kg 10:12-13, 2 Chr 22:7-9 42 42 112 Jehu and his partner kill the rest of Ahab's family 2 Kg 10:17 20 113 Jehu assembled the followers of Baal and then slaughtered them all 2 Kg 10:18-25 1,000 114 Mattan the priest of Baal and Queen Athaliah 2 Kg 11:17-20 2 2 115 God sent lions to eat those who didn't fear him enough 2 Kg 17:25-26 10 116 An angel killed 185,000 sleeping soldiers 2 Kg 19:34, 37:36 185,000 185,000 117 God caused King Sennacherib to be killed by his sons 2 Kg 19:37, Tobit 1:21 1 1 118 Josiah killed all the priests of the high places 2 Kg 23:20 100 119 Just another holy war 1 Chr 5:18-22 50,000 120 God killed a half million Israelite soldiers 2 Chr 13:17-18 500,000 500,000 121 Jeroboam 2 Chr 13:20 1 1 122 God killed a million Ethiopians 2 Chr 14:9-14 1,000,000 1,000,000 123 Friendly fire: God forced "a great multitude" to kill each other 2 Chr 20:22-25 30,000 124 God made Jehoram's bowels fall out 2 Chr 21:14-19 1 1 125 God killed Jehoram's sons 2 Chr 22:1 3 126 Ahaziah of Judah 2 Chr 22:7-8 1 1 127 Joash, the princes, and army of Judah 2 Chr 24:20-25 1 10,000 128 God destroyed Amaziah 2 Chr 25:15-27 1 1,000 129 God smote Ahaz with the king of Syria 2 Chr 28:1-5 1 10,000 130 God killed 120,000 valiant men for forsaking him 2 Chr 28:6 120,000 120,000 131 The fall of Jerusalem 2 Chr 36:16-17 10,000 132 The Purim killings: God hath done these things Esther 2 - 9, 10:4 75,813 75,813 133 God and Satan kill Job's children and slaves Job 1:18-19 10 60 134 Hananiah Jer 28:15-16 1 1 135 Ezekiel's wife Ezek 24:15-18 1 1 136 Oh! Susanna Dan 13:6-62 2 2 137 Judith is blessed above all women (for cutting off a sleeping man's head) Judith 13:6-10 1 1 138 The Judith massacre: hang ye up this head upon our walls Judith 15:1-6 1,000 139 Mathathias's double murder 1 Mac 2:24-25 2 2 140 Mathathias and his friends slay the wicked sinners 1 Mac 2:44 100 141 God killed Andronicus, the sacrilegious wretch 2 Mac 4:38 1 1 142 A Jewish mob killed Lysimachus, the sacrilegious fellow 2 Mac 4:42 1 1 143 God helped Judas Machabeus destroy the wicked 1 Mac 3:1-26, 2 Mac 8:5-6 800 4,900 144 Judas and his unarmed men kill 3000 of Gorgias's soldiers 1 Mac 3:44-4:24 3,000 3,000 145 The Hanukkah killings 1 Mac 4:34-5:7 5,000 17,000 146 The Machabees brothers slaughter the heathens 1 Mac 5:21-51 11,000 37,000 147 Nicanor's army: The Almighty being their helper, they slew above nine thousand men 1 Mac 7:32-47, 2 Mac 8:24, 15:27 147,002 147,002 148 Jonathan and Simon destroy the wicked out of Israel 1 Mac 9:46-49, 2 Mac 8:30-33, 10:61 1,000 1,200 149 Five heavenly horsemen cast darts and fireballs at the enemy 2 Mac 8:32-10:38 21,103 21,400 150 God killed Antiochus with an incurable bowel disease 2 Mac 9:5-28 1 1 151 Idumeans, traitors, and Jews in two towers 2 Mac 10:16-17 40,000 40,100 152 Nicanor's head: A manifest sign of the help of God 1 Mac 7:33-48, 2 Mac 15:1-35 35,000 35,000 153 Aliens at Cades 1 Mac 11:74 3,000 3,000 154 John burns to death 2000 in the tower of Azotus 1 Mac 16:10 2,000 2,000 155 God sent wasps to slowly destroy people Wisdom 11:7-8 1,000 156 Ananias and Sapphira Acts 5:5-10 2 2 157 Herod Aggripa Acts 12:23 1 1 158 Jesus Rom 8:32, 1 Pet 1:1820 1 1 Totals 2,821,364 24,994,828 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Sorry Chris there's a big debate im afraid, it doesn't add up, the descent of Darwinism proves this, over a thousand scientists from all expertise have signed the paper with their discrepancies, ignore it all you want, there's no way around it.... An for that vid, his claims are bollox lol look at this table below I'm failing to follow your logic here? What are you cutting and pasting? Evolution is the random genetic mutation over time. I'm not sure what you're getting at by posting your table. Can you please explain it to me? If you would like to research for yourself there is an amazing book called Evolution: Making Sense Of Life. Authors are Carl Zimmer, and Douglas J. Emlen. It's a university level text book but it's extremely well written and easy to follow. As I said Chris onlybtwo options, evolution or intelligent design, unless you have another theory of life Chris. Evolution! Absense of evidence for one does not automatically prove the validity of the other!! Evidence, sir! Please supply evidence! I'd like to share this video. Chromosomes NOT! evidence for evolution by Kent Hovind https://youtu.be/5DA11U4hIKk Chromosomes! It ain't what they are it's the way that you use them! We can go round and around about the theory of evolution. The scientific community regard evolution the same as they do gravity. It's as factual as can be defined by scientific method. Kent Hovind is a crackpot. He doesn't have any formal education in biology. He's been pulled up for bullshitting on several occasions by deliberately distorting reports. You stated earlier that people won't debate him anymore, that is because of his lack of academic education! People won't debate him on science because he isn't a scientist! His degree is in religious studies. His masters and doctorate are in religious studies! He doesn't make any sense in the video clip because he doesn't know what he's talking about! You disagree. I don't. We're at an impass here. It still doesn't prove the existence of god. It still doesn't verify the accuracy of the bible. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j1985 1,983 Posted March 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Do we know who made god yet ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Do we know who made god yet ? The version we're arguing would seem like man made god. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reaper1064 285 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Damn Sandymere that makes my COD kill streaks looks pitiful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dytkos 17,531 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 thou shalt not kill Killing Event by god and followers etc Reference Bible's Number Estimate 1 The Flood of Noah Gen 7:23 20,000,000 2 Abraham's war to rescue Lot Gen 14:17-19 1,000 3 Sodom and Gomorrah Gen 19:24 2,000 4 Lot's wife Gen 19:26 1 1 5 While they were sore, Dinah's brethren slew all the males Gen 34:1-31, Judith 9:2-3 2 1,000 6 Er for being wicked in the sight of the Lord Gen 38:7 1 1 7 Onan for spilling his seed Gen 38:10 1 1 8 A seven year worldwide famine Gen 41:25-54 70,000 9 There will be blood: The first plague of Egypt Ex 7:15-27 , Wis 11:7-8 10,000 10 The seventh plague: hail Ex 9:25 300,000 11 Firstborn Egyptian children Ex 12:29-30 500,000 12 The Lord took off their chariot wheels Ex 14:8-26 600 5,000 13 Amalekites Ex 17:13 1,000 14 Who is on the Lord's side?: Forcing friends and family to kill each other Ex 32:27-28 3,000 3,000 15 Aaron's golden calf Ex 32:35 1,000 16 God burns Aaron's sons to death for offering "strange fire" Lev 10:1-3 2 2 17 A blasphemer is stoned to death Lev 24:10-23 1 1 18 When the people complained, God burned them to death Num 11:1 100 19 While the flesh was still between their teeth, the Lord smote them will a very great plague Num 11:33 10,000 20 Ten scouts are killed for their honest report Num 14:35-45 10 110 21 A man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day is stoned to death Num 15:32-35 1 1 22 Korah, his companions, and their families are buried alive Num 16:27 3 9 23 God burns 250 people to death for burning incense Num 16:35 250 250 24 God kills 14,700 for complaining about God's killings Num 16:49 14,700 14,700 25 The massacre of the Aradies Num 21:1-2 3,000 26 God sent serpents to bite people for complaining about the lack of food and water Num 21:6 100 27 Phineas's double murder: A killing to end God's killing Num 25:1-11 24,002 24,002 28 The Midianite massacre: Have ye saved all the women alive? Num 31:1-35 6 200,000 29 God slowly killed the Israelite army Dt 2:14-16 500,000 30 God the giant killer Dt 2:21-22 5,000 31 God hardens King Sihon's heart so all his people can be killed Dt 2:33-34 1 5,000 32 Og and all the men women, and children in 60 cities Dt 3:6 1 60,000 33 The Jericho massacre Jos 6:21 1,000 34 Achan and his family Jos 7:10-26 1 5 35 The Ai massacre Jos 8:1-25 12,000 12,000 36 God stops the sun so Joshua can get his killing done in the daylight Jos 10:10-11 5,000 37 Five kings killed and hung on trees Jos 10:26 5 10,000 38 Joshua utterly destroyed all that breathed as the Lord commanded Jos 10:28-42 7 7,000 39 The genocide of twenty cities: There was not any left to breathe Jos 11:8-12 2 20,000 40 The Anakim: some more giant killing Jos 11:20-21 5,000 41 The Lord delivered the Canaanites and Perizzites Jg 1:4 10,000 10,000 42 The Jerusalem massacre Jg 1:8 1,000 43 Five massacres, a wedding, and God-proof iron chariots Jg 1:9-25 5,000 44 The Lord delivered Chushanrishathaim Jg 3:7-10 1 1,000 45 Ehud delivers a message from God Jg 3:15-22 1 1 46 God delivers 10,000 lusty Moabites Jg 3:28-29 10,000 10,000 47 Shamgar killed 600 Philistines with an ox goad Jg 3:31 600 600 48 Barak and God massacre the Canaanites Jg 4:15-16 1,000 49 Jael pounds a tent stake through a sleeping man's skull Jg 4:18-22 1 1 50 Gideon's story: The Lord set every man's sword against his fellow Jg 7:22 120,000 120,000 51 A city is massacred and 1000 burn to death because of God's evil spirit Jg 9:23-27 1,001 2,000 52 The Ammonite massacre Jg 11:32-33 20,000 53 Jephthah's daughter Jg 11:39 1 1 54 42,000 die for failing the "shibboleth" test Jg 12:4-7 42,000 42,000 55 Samson murdered 30 men for their clothes Jg 14:19 30 30 56 Samson killed 1000 men with the jawbone of an ass Jg 15:14-15 1,000 1,000 57 Samson killed 3000 in a suicide terrorist attack Jg 16:27-30 3,000 3,000 58 A holy civil war (it had something to do with rotting concubine body part messages) Jg 20:35-37 65,100 65,100 59 The end of Judges: two genocides and 200 stolen virgins Jg 21:10-14 4,000 60 God killed Eli's sons and 34,000 Israelite soldiers 1 Sam 2:25, 4:11 34,002 34,002 61 God smote them with hemorrhoids in their secret parts 1 Sam 5:1-12 3,000 62 50,070 killed for looking into the ark of the Lord 1 Sam 6:19 50,070 50,070 63 The Lord thundered a great thunder upon the Philistines 1 Sam 7:10-11 1,000 64 Another Ammonite massacre (and another God-inspired body part message) 1 Sam 11:6-13 1,000 65 Jonathan's first slaughter 1 Sam 14:12-14 20 20 66 God forces the Philistines to kill each other 1 Sam 14:20 1,000 67 The Amalekite genocide 1 Sam 15:2-3 10,000 68 Samuel hacks Agag to death before the Lord 1 Sam 15:32-33 1 1 69 In the valley of Elah: Goliath 1 Sam 17:51, 2 Sam 21:19 1 1 70 David buys a wife with 200 Philistine foreskins 1 Sam 18:27 200 200 71 The Lord said to David, Go and smite the Philistines 1 Sam 23:2-5 10,000 72 God killed Nabal (and David got his wife and other stuff) 1 Sam 25:38 1 1 73 David commits random acts of genocide for the Philistines 1 Sam 27:8-11 60,000 74 David spends the day killing Amalekites 1 Sam 30:17 1,000 75 God kills Saul, his sons, and his soldiers (because Saul didn't kill all the Amalekites) 1 Sam 31:2, 2 Chr 10:6 4 100 76 David kills the messenger 2 Sam 1:15 1 1 77 David killed, mutilated, and hung Rechab and Baanah 2 Sam 4:12 2 2 78 God helps David smite the Philistines from the front and the rear 2 Sam 5:19-25 2,000 79 God killed Uzzah for trying to keep the ark from falling 2 Sam 6:6-7, 1 Chr 13:9-10 1 1 David killed two-thirds of the Moabite POWs and enslaved the rest 2 Sam 8:2 667 81 And the Lord gave David victory wherever he went 2 Sam 8 - 10 65,850 66,850 82 David killed every male in Edom 2 Sam 8:13-14, 1 Kg 11:15-16, 1 Chr 18:12, Ps 60:1 15,000 25,000 83 Thus did David do to all the children of Ammon 2 Sam 11:1, 1 Chr 20:1 1,000 84 God slowly kills a baby 2 Sam 12:14-18 1 1 85 Seven sons of Saul are hung up before the Lord 2 Sam 21:1-9 7 3,000 86 David's mighty men and their amazing killings 2 Sam 23, 1 Chr 11 1,403 3,400 87 God killed 70,000 because of David had a census that God (or Satan) told him to do 2 Sam 24:15, 1 Chr 21:14 70,000 200,000 88 Solomon murdered Job and Shimei (per David's deathbed wish) 1 Kg 2:29-46 2 2 89 A tale of two prophets 1 Kg 13:11-24 1 1 90 Jeroboam's son: God kills another child 1 Kg 14:17 1 1 91 Jeroboam's family 1 Kg 15:29 10 92 Baasha's family and friends 1 Kg 16:11-12 20 93 Zimri burns to death 1 Kg 16:18-19 1 1 94 The drought of Elijah 1 Kg 17:1, Luke 4:25, James 5:17-18 3,000 95 Elijah kills 450 religious leaders in a prayer contest 1 Kg 18:22-40 450 450 96 The first God-assisted slaughter of the Syrians 1 Kg 20:20-21 10,000 97 God killed 100,000 Syrians for calling him a god of the hills 1 Kg 20:28-29 100,000 100,000 98 God killed 27,000 Syrians by making a wall fall on them 1 Kg 20:30 27,000 27,000 99 God sent a lion to kill a man for not smiting a prophet 1 Kg 20:35-36 1 1 100 God killed Ahab for not killing a captured king 1 Kg 20:42, 22:35 1 1 101 God burned 102 men to death for asking Elijah to come down from his hill 2 Kg 1:10-12 102 102 102 God killed Ahaziah for asking the wrong God 2 Kg 1:16-17, 2 Chr 22:7-9 1 1 103 God sent bears to kill 42 boys for making fun of a prophet's bald head 2 Kg 2:23-24 42 42 104 The Lord delivered the Moabites 2 Kg 3:18-25 5,000 105 A skeptic is trampled to death 2 Kg 7:2-20 1 1 106 God's seven year famine 2 Kg 8:1 7,000 107 Jehoram of Israel 2 Kg 9:24 1 1 108 Jezebel 2 Kg 9:33-37 1 1 109 Ahab's sons: 70 heads in two baskets 2 Kg 10:6-10 70 70 110 Ahab's hometown family, friends, and priests 2 Kg 10:11 20 111 Jehu killed Ahaziah's family 2 Kg 10:12-13, 2 Chr 22:7-9 42 42 112 Jehu and his partner kill the rest of Ahab's family 2 Kg 10:17 20 113 Jehu assembled the followers of Baal and then slaughtered them all 2 Kg 10:18-25 1,000 114 Mattan the priest of Baal and Queen Athaliah 2 Kg 11:17-20 2 2 115 God sent lions to eat those who didn't fear him enough 2 Kg 17:25-26 10 116 An angel killed 185,000 sleeping soldiers 2 Kg 19:34, 37:36 185,000 185,000 117 God caused King Sennacherib to be killed by his sons 2 Kg 19:37, Tobit 1:21 1 1 118 Josiah killed all the priests of the high places 2 Kg 23:20 100 119 Just another holy war 1 Chr 5:18-22 50,000 120 God killed a half million Israelite soldiers 2 Chr 13:17-18 500,000 500,000 121 Jeroboam 2 Chr 13:20 1 1 122 God killed a million Ethiopians 2 Chr 14:9-14 1,000,000 1,000,000 123 Friendly fire: God forced "a great multitude" to kill each other 2 Chr 20:22-25 30,000 124 God made Jehoram's bowels fall out 2 Chr 21:14-19 1 1 125 God killed Jehoram's sons 2 Chr 22:1 3 126 Ahaziah of Judah 2 Chr 22:7-8 1 1 127 Joash, the princes, and army of Judah 2 Chr 24:20-25 1 10,000 128 God destroyed Amaziah 2 Chr 25:15-27 1 1,000 129 God smote Ahaz with the king of Syria 2 Chr 28:1-5 1 10,000 130 God killed 120,000 valiant men for forsaking him 2 Chr 28:6 120,000 120,000 131 The fall of Jerusalem 2 Chr 36:16-17 10,000 132 The Purim killings: God hath done these things Esther 2 - 9, 10:4 75,813 75,813 133 God and Satan kill Job's children and slaves Job 1:18-19 10 60 134 Hananiah Jer 28:15-16 1 1 135 Ezekiel's wife Ezek 24:15-18 1 1 136 Oh! Susanna Dan 13:6-62 2 2 137 Judith is blessed above all women (for cutting off a sleeping man's head) Judith 13:6-10 1 1 138 The Judith massacre: hang ye up this head upon our walls Judith 15:1-6 1,000 139 Mathathias's double murder 1 Mac 2:24-25 2 2 140 Mathathias and his friends slay the wicked sinners 1 Mac 2:44 100 141 God killed Andronicus, the sacrilegious wretch 2 Mac 4:38 1 1 142 A Jewish mob killed Lysimachus, the sacrilegious fellow 2 Mac 4:42 1 1 143 God helped Judas Machabeus destroy the wicked 1 Mac 3:1-26, 2 Mac 8:5-6 800 4,900 144 Judas and his unarmed men kill 3000 of Gorgias's soldiers 1 Mac 3:44-4:24 3,000 3,000 145 The Hanukkah killings 1 Mac 4:34-5:7 5,000 17,000 146 The Machabees brothers slaughter the heathens 1 Mac 5:21-51 11,000 37,000 147 Nicanor's army: The Almighty being their helper, they slew above nine thousand men 1 Mac 7:32-47, 2 Mac 8:24, 15:27 147,002 147,002 148 Jonathan and Simon destroy the wicked out of Israel 1 Mac 9:46-49, 2 Mac 8:30-33, 10:61 1,000 1,200 149 Five heavenly horsemen cast darts and fireballs at the enemy 2 Mac 8:32-10:38 21,103 21,400 150 God killed Antiochus with an incurable bowel disease 2 Mac 9:5-28 1 1 151 Idumeans, traitors, and Jews in two towers 2 Mac 10:16-17 40,000 40,100 152 Nicanor's head: A manifest sign of the help of God 1 Mac 7:33-48, 2 Mac 15:1-35 35,000 35,000 153 Aliens at Cades 1 Mac 11:74 3,000 3,000 154 John burns to death 2000 in the tower of Azotus 1 Mac 16:10 2,000 2,000 155 God sent wasps to slowly destroy people Wisdom 11:7-8 1,000 156 Ananias and Sapphira Acts 5:5-10 2 2 157 Herod Aggripa Acts 12:23 1 1 158 Jesus Rom 8:32, 1 Pet 1:1820 1 1 Totals 2,821,364 24,994,828 You are seriously sad mate Cheers, D. 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Truther 1,579 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 That's up to you mate whatever you want to do, but I asked Paul as an truther the same an no reply, an I'll ask you how does Christianity keep me or anyone else subservient to government? Generally interested, because the only thing 'm subservant to is Jesus an God, not the gov, thanks In advance I thought we were keeping it an honest debate QB? I did answer that, scroll back, what did i say about honest debate. Anyway, i had a look at the vid, way to much info to study it all, but i get the gist of it. The "Cambrian explosion" is interesting? lack of fossils the Cambrian age molluscs developed from is tricky, if that's actually true? But who say's life only started once, in one place? (apart from religions that is) I don't think life did start in one place myself, i think ice comets could well have transported some life here, if not all life, if that did happen once, it could happen multiple times and kick start a sudden burst of new life, even quite advanced life could survive for a long time in ice, you can freeze a scorpion in ice for a long time and it wont die for eg, Cambrian lasted 10 million years, so that's a fair bit of time for dispersal/breeding, a bit thin maybe, but possible? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Sorry Chris there's a big debate im afraid, it doesn't add up, the descent of Darwinism proves this, over a thousand scientists from all expertise have signed the paper with their discrepancies, ignore it all you want, there's no way around it.... An for that vid, his claims are bollox lol look at this table below I'm failing to follow your logic here? What are you cutting and pasting? Evolution is the random genetic mutation over time. I'm not sure what you're getting at by posting your table. Can you please explain it to me? If you would like to research for yourself there is an amazing book called Evolution: Making Sense Of Life. Authors are Carl Zimmer, and Douglas J. Emlen. It's a university level text book but it's extremely well written and easy to follow. As I said Chris onlybtwo options, evolution or intelligent design, unless you have another theory of life Chris. Evolution! Absense of evidence for one does not automatically prove the validity of the other!! Evidence, sir! Please supply evidence! I'd like to share this video. Chromosomes NOT! evidence for evolution by Kent Hovind Chromosomes! It ain't what they are it's the way that you use them! We can go round and around about the theory of evolution. The scientific community regard evolution the same as they do gravity. It's as factual as can be defined by scientific method. Kent Hovind is a crackpot. He doesn't have any formal education in biology. He's been pulled up for bullshitting on several occasions by deliberately distorting reports. You stated earlier that people won't debate him anymore, that is because of his lack of academic education! People won't debate him on science because he isn't a scientist! His degree is in religious studies. His masters and doctorate are in religious studies! He doesn't make any sense in the video clip because he doesn't know what he's talking about! You disagree. I don't. We're at an impass here. It still doesn't prove the existence of god. It still doesn't verify the accuracy of the bible. Say what you like about hovind, curse the man if you want, but he's telling the truth, he was called up lol....he says to call him anytime...he's an honest man an was booked two years in advance to speak...an he takes no money all for free....he had hundred debates...an say what you want thereafraid to debate him.... I know all the evidence for eevolution Chris...I'm researching it years....its not science...I see what you do e there with gravity thing.....don't be labeling it the same you might not see gravity, but you can test it, so don't be giving me that....plus while were talking gravity.....how come it has not evolved....its a continuous....same as the other physics laws...how come they don't evolve... I thought you were agnostic....you sound like an atheist tonight lol So Chris if you say its a fact give me your best evidence its real simple..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 That's up to you mate whatever you want to do, but I asked Paul as an truther the same an no reply, an I'll ask you how does Christianity keep me or anyone else subservient to government? Generally interested, because the only thing 'm subservant to is Jesus an God, not the gov, thanks In advance I thought we were keeping it an honest debate QB? I did answer that, scroll back, what did i say about honest debate. Anyway, i had a look at the vid, way to much info to study it all, but i get the gist of it. The "Cambrian explosion" is interesting? lack of fossils the Cambrian age molluscs developed from is tricky, if that's actually true? But who say's life only started once, in one place? (apart from religions that is) I don't think life did start in one place myself, i think ice comets could well have transported some life here, if not all life, if that did happen once, it could happen multiple times and kick start a sudden burst of new life, even quite advanced life could survive for a long time in ice, you can freeze a scorpion in ice for a long time and it wont die for eg, Cambrian lasted 10 million years, so that's a fair bit of time for dispersal/breeding, a bit thin maybe, but possible? So explain to me truther, where did this other life come from in outer space,, how did it get on to a comet,,what did it eat ,even what kinda life was it,, how did it survive coming threw the atmosphere, what did it breed with,, after all that your still left with evoloutionbmate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Sorry Chris there's a big debate im afraid, it doesn't add up, the descent of Darwinism proves this, over a thousand scientists from all expertise have signed the paper with their discrepancies, ignore it all you want, there's no way around it.... An for that vid, his claims are bollox lol look at this table below I'm failing to follow your logic here? What are you cutting and pasting? Evolution is the random genetic mutation over time. I'm not sure what you're getting at by posting your table. Can you please explain it to me? If you would like to research for yourself there is an amazing book called Evolution: Making Sense Of Life. Authors are Carl Zimmer, and Douglas J. Emlen. It's a university level text book but it's extremely well written and easy to follow. As I said Chris onlybtwo options, evolution or intelligent design, unless you have another theory of life Chris. Evolution! Absense of evidence for one does not automatically prove the validity of the other!! Evidence, sir! Please supply evidence! I'd like to share this video. Chromosomes NOT! evidence for evolution by Kent Hovind Chromosomes! It ain't what they are it's the way that you use them! We can go round and around about the theory of evolution. The scientific community regard evolution the same as they do gravity. It's as factual as can be defined by scientific method. Kent Hovind is a crackpot. He doesn't have any formal education in biology. He's been pulled up for bullshitting on several occasions by deliberately distorting reports. You stated earlier that people won't debate him anymore, that is because of his lack of academic education! People won't debate him on science because he isn't a scientist! His degree is in religious studies. His masters and doctorate are in religious studies! He doesn't make any sense in the video clip because he doesn't know what he's talking about! You disagree. I don't. We're at an impass here. It still doesn't prove the existence of god. It still doesn't verify the accuracy of the bible. Say what you like about hovind, curse the man if you want, but he's telling the truth, he was called up lol....he says to call him anytime...he's an honest man an was booked two years in advance to speak...an he takes no money all for free....he had hundred debates...an say what you want thereafraid to debate him....I know all the evidence for eevolution Chris...I'm researching it years....its not science...I see what you do e there with gravity thing.....don't be labeling it the same you might not see gravity, but you can test it, so don't be giving me that....plus while were talking gravity.....how come it has not evolved....its a continuous....same as the other physics laws...how come they don't evolve... I thought you were agnostic....you sound like an atheist tonight lol So Chris if you say its a fact give me your best evidence its real simple..... Your and my idea of an 'honest man' are very different. http://www.pensapedia.com/wiki/Kent_Hovind Americans must be the most gullible people on the planet if they listen to a convicted criminal fraudster like him. He is a conspiracy nutter to boot. Edited March 31, 2015 by shepp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Shepp that's the biggest load of propaganda crap I ever heard, all bullshit made up by jealous atheist fanatics nothing more nothing less Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Say what you like about hovind, curse the man if you want, but he's telling the truth, he was called up lol....he says to call him anytime...he's an honest man an was booked two years in advance to speak...an he takes no money all for free....he had hundred debates...an say what you want thereafraid to debate him.... QB. Even Ken Ham, of Answers in Genesis, distances himself from him. The guy is a charlatan! They won't debate him because he doesn't know what he's talking about!! Honest? He's a fraud! He's currently serving a 10 year stretch in a Florida penal institution for tax evasion and mail fraud. This is in a country where fiddling the system is a national pastime and usually sees you with a giant bonus! His Godonomics program currently sells for around $400USD because god wants you to be rich and you can be for a little bit of cash! I'm currently downloading his doctorate thesis from wikileaks. Can't wait! I know all the evidence for eevolution Chris...I'm researching it years....its not science...I see what you do e there with gravity thing.....don't be labeling it the same you might not see gravity, but you can test it, so don't be giving me that....plus while were talking gravity.....how come it has not evolved....its a continuous....same as the other physics laws...how come they don't evolve... Me too! It is science! I used the example of gravity in that it's a theory! But theory, in science, means something different than simply an idea! Has gravity evolved? I don't know! I'm not a physicist! I couldn't sit here and argue relativity because I don't know f**k all about it! We're debating biology, and that's something I do know a little about! I thought you were agnostic....you sound like an atheist tonight lol I'm still an agnostic. Like I've said on numerous occasions I'm open to the existence of a creator, but my issue has been with man's interpretation of it. So Chris if you say its a fact give me your best evidence its real simple..... Let's start with insects as their life cycles are conducive to seeing it in our lifetime. Let's start with the Peppered Moth. Prior to the industrial revolution it was a white/mottled colour. The dark mutation only made up a couple of percent of the species. After the industrial revolution it was closer to 95%. Why? The lighter version lost it's camouflage advantage due to the staining of surfaces caused by pollution. Predators could see the lighter coloured insects whereas before they held the cards with camouflage. We saw a complete roll reversal of which was the beneficial colour for the moth. That genetic mutation, which previously saw 98% of them eaten, saved it's species. Evolution. How about something a little closer to the pest control aspect of the forum? The bed bug and it's resistance to bendiocarb. Organophosphates and pyrethroids. Resistance to the pesticides is a genetic variation that is spread extremely quickly with any insect that has it. The resistance in widespread populations show how that genetic mutation is beneficial to the species adaptation to it's environment! Evolution. Same argument with rodenticide. Rats and mice! Shall we go a little smaller? Same concept but hospital superbugs that are resistance to antibiotics... They adapt. They overcome. They evolve! A little bigger? The human genome has found neanderthal DNA in modern humans. Current data suggests that at least 20% of it is survived through modern humans! At some point in our history (around 40,000 years ago) neanderthal man was successfully able to mate with the 40,000 y/o version of us! Why only 20%? Because that was the only mutation which could survive the process! The rest is rejected! An evolutionary cul-de-sac. They evolved, we evolved, and that paring of DNA information is what we have today! That, sir, is evolution! I'm not sure if I asked earlier but have you read up on hox genes? Please do because it's very, very, informative! If you can utterly disprove evolution, I'll believe you... That's the beauty of it. I want to know the truth! If it's wrong science will step up and find the real answers, but at this point the evidence gets stronger and stronger, for it. Even if you can disprove evolution. Find undeniable evidence to show the world that it's all bollocks. It still doesn't prove the existence of god. It still doesn't validate the words in the bible For that you have to provide evidence that has to stand up to scrutiny. Faith just won't cut it. Edited April 1, 2015 by ChrisJones 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Shepp that's the biggest load of propaganda crap I ever heard, all bullshit made up by jealous atheist fanatics nothing more nothing less Ha ha Fail ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Shepp that's the biggest load of propaganda crap I ever heard, all bullshit made up by jealous atheist fanatics nothing more nothing lessHa ha Fail ! Don't think so shepp, it is pure propaganda simple, from the usual suspects, he's tore to bits any evolutionist, you know it I know it, you say there's not much he knows about the subject, that's why they won't debate him haha bollox its cause he shows them up every time, either your ignorant or your brainwashed.... Tax evasion lol Chris I say to you what I said to shepp, your brainwashed, yous two are some of the main men talking how are gov this, our gov that, Kent got put in jail for 48 counts of STRUCTURING, THAT NOT TAX EVASION, FOR TWO OADS TO THINK THERE SMART YOUR NOT VERY,: he took his own money out of bank 48 times under ten thousand limit,' lol lads your flowing with the atheistic fanatics here, brainwashed, oh an his mail fraud, another joke, he filed a appeal from jail, by post, perfectly legal, but there doing him for it, big campaign over there now, he be out soon, did you know before they took him away from his family, there were at least 500 anti hovind sites started by atheist crackpots, who wouldn't debate face to face but behind computer, they were that jealous an mad becausevkent tore them apart, an there theory, the government didn't like it, but you stickbto the brainwash atheist mob, suits you.. An Chris your example are micro evolution, variation that's that Darwinism, macro, mate you examples are dirt an were ripped apart by me on first God thread,,,,there that crap I won't even reply to them,,, therevsilly an far from Darwinian evolution...your wasting my time with them examples Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) Shepp that's the biggest load of propaganda crap I ever heard, all bullshit made up by jealous atheist fanatics nothing more nothing lessHa ha Fail !Don't think so shepp, it is pure propaganda simple, from the usual suspects, he's tore to bits any evolutionist, you know it I know it, you say there's not much he knows about the subject, that's why they won't debate him haha bollox its cause he shows them up every time, either your ignorant or your brainwashed.... Tax evasion lol Chris I say to you what I said to shepp, your brainwashed, yous two are some of the main men talking how are gov this, our gov that, Kent got put in jail for 48 counts of STRUCTURING, THAT NOT TAX EVASION, FOR TWO OADS TO THINK THERE SMART YOUR NOT VERY,: he took his own money out of bank 48 times under ten thousand limit,' lol lads your flowing with the atheistic fanatics here, brainwashed, oh an his mail fraud, another joke, he filed a appeal from jail, by post, perfectly legal, but there doing him for it, big campaign over there now, he be out soon, did you know before they took him away from his family, there were at least 500 anti hovind sites started by atheist crackpots, who wouldn't debate face to face but behind computer, they were that jealous an mad becausevkent tore them apart, an there theory, the government didn't like it, but you stickbto the brainwash atheist mob, suits you.. An Chris your example are micro evolution, variation that's not Darwinism, macro, mate you examples are dirt an were ripped apart by me on first God thread,,,,there that crap I won't even reply to them,,, therevsilly an far from Darwinian evolution...your wasting my time with them examples Edited April 1, 2015 by Quarter bull Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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