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My last days hunting with him, he was as good as they say with both terrier and spade..............his people skills needed work though ?

I no longer post to this site, however I watch. I saw Smithy several times at work, he was a  very big lump of a dog. Not kept at a sporting weight as he was always kennelled,  tall as yr knees. I saw

Late 90's granddaughter of smithy most of my stuff is down from her.

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I'm sure that there are men still around who do know. Various accounts have appeared in print over the years and some of them contradictory. To lesser mortals like me I think Smithy has just become part of terrier folklore, a legend almost. Those that know do, those that don't maybe never will. A bit like who bred Parson John Russell's Trump? But I think maybe Smithy has had a greater (x 1 million) influence on the working terrier of today than the Parson's did.

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43 minutes ago, eastcoast said:

I'm sure that there are men still around who do know. Various accounts have appeared in print over the years and some of them contradictory. To lesser mortals like me I think Smithy has just become part of terrier folklore, a legend almost. Those that know do, those that don't maybe never will. A bit like who bred Parson John Russell's Trump? But I think maybe Smithy has had a greater (x 1 million) influence on the working terrier of today than the Parson's did.

I think your right I had a version and as a drunken young fella blurted it all out infront of experienced terrier blokes in the fecking beer tent 

I could of out dug all of them just to bury me fecking self? ffs still embarrassed now

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 I remember Ken with Smithy he was a big lump of a dog, must be going on 40yrs ago now. When I first met him he had white dogs, he use to turn up at the shows with a load of pups in a pen and sell the lot before the day was done. I remember going to his old place, and he must have had100  pups for sale all split into pens. He showed us a dog called Nigger that he said was finished  by 18 month, think he went back to Smithy, not much good really. I think  I remember him saying Frank Staceys dogs were stolen, or sold behind his back and the men who had them new the truth,

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