Blackbriar 8,568 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 The government is planning to bring forward new laws to ensure that cigarettes are only sold in plain packets. I say plain, but the packs are emblazoned with graphic pictures of smoking-related diseases, although they are plain dark colours, with no brand name visible. The new laws will bring the UK in line with Australia, who already have such regulations. The new laws are designed to deter new smokers, especially the young and, in truth, the number of smokers has fallen significantly in recent years, but this could be due to wider social pressures and the smoking ban, rather than smokers heeding health warnings. Smokers groups fear that this is the latest step on the path to a complete ban, and are warning of more taxes and restrictions on e-ciggies. Given that around £10 billion is collected in duty and taxes on tobacco products annually,but are the government trying to have it both ways ? Smokers are using a legal product, yet are having the use of that legal product curtailed and taxed to the hilt at every available turn. Alcohol abuse is responsible for as many health issues as tobacco, as well as turning most town centres into war zones at weekends, yet drinkers are not the social parias that smokers have been turned into. Are smokers being treated fairly ? Should the government grasp the nettle and completely ban tobacco products ? Or maybe smokers should be left alone to enjoy their vice, if that's their choice ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil82 1,008 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 should ban burgers and kebabs. doing just as much harm to the nhs 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bracken boy 584 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 i cant understand why you would smoke nowdays, i think you smokers are crazy but end of day your life your choice... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BIGLURKS 874 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 i cant understand why you would smoke nowdays, i think you smokers are crazy but end of day your life your choice...its that first smoke in the morning that single draw that lets you go too work with out killing some one 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Smokers are a minority group now. You can't discriminate against minorities (so it seems). Wait till my MP hears about this. If everyone gave up smoking, I'm sure the government's loss of revenue would be far more than the savings on the NHS. After all, the NHS has to help loads of other minorities too. I expect chocolate will be sold in plain packaging soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,568 Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 i cant understand why you would smoke nowdays, i think you smokers are crazy but end of day your life your choice...its that first smoke in the morning that single draw that lets you go too work with out killing some one I gave up 7 years ago, and I have to admit to still missing that one now and then ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bracken boy 584 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 i do feel sorry for those who do smoke and want to stop but cant, ive seen people who i thought as strong people but struggle to cope without one, im just so glad i never went down that line tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BIGLURKS 874 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 i cant understand why you would smoke nowdays, i think you smokers are crazy but end of day your life your choice...its that first smoke in the morning that single draw that lets you go too work with out killing some one I gave up 7 years ago, and I have to admit to still missing that one now and then ! dont think it ever goes away I know my aunty gave up 20 years ago and she still says she could murder a smoke even now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Our local hospital has signs up all over "this is a no smoking hospital" you aren't supposed to smoke even in the car park. Then you go in the canteen and they sell burgers, sausage, and all the bad shite Funny when you see the majority of nurses/doctors waddling their fat arses down the wards No wonder the waiting list is so long, the fat b*****ds haven't got a days work in em 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,622 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 We can't really compare smoking with 'bad foods'. There aren't really any 'bad' foods. Everyone has nutritional requirements to maintain their body and if you want to fit a burger and fries into that then there is no health reason why you shouldn't or would sufer for it. Certain foods aren't unhealthy, a person's poor attitude to their diet is what's unhealthy. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sussex 5,776 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 i cant understand why you would smoke nowdays, i think you smokers are crazy but end of day your life your choice...its that first smoke in the morning that single draw that lets you go too work with out killing some one I gave up 7 years ago, and I have to admit to still missing that one now and then ! dont think it ever goes away I know my aunty gave up 20 years ago and she still says she could murder a smoke even now 31 years I've been of them but....if someone lights up a cigar it brings the old longing straight back ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Splitting hairs BH, my point is the health workers/hospital admin, are dictating no smoking, but % of their staff are killing themselves with the their bad diets, and nothing said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,260 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Couple of thoughts. Is it not about 40% of hospital admissions are smoking related ? If they stop smoking they still spend the money so pay a percentage of tax? Can they ban eating? Should the rest of society subsidise a smokers addiction? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BIGLURKS 874 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Couple of thoughts. Is it not about 40% of hospital admissions are smoking related ? If they stop smoking they still spend the money so pay a percentage of tax? Can they ban eating? Should the rest of society subsidise a smokers addiction? you seen the price of smokes latley you can get a packet of smokes in some country's for a pound we pay 7/8 for 20 or 15 for a pouch of bakky these days I think we pay enuf too kill are selves thx you 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Couple of thoughts. Is it not about 40% of hospital admissions are smoking related ? If they stop smoking they still spend the money so pay a percentage of tax? Can they ban eating? Should the rest of society subsidise a smokers addiction? Not much difference between being addicted to food and harming your health, or smoking and harming yourself imo mate, but the smokers seem to get more stick over their habit than the greedy/lazy. I was watching that "Chase" quiz a bit back, and this fat bird said she was a dietician If you went for help to stop smoking and the geezer sat there smoking it wouldn't inspire confidence would it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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