Bosun11 537 Posted August 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 i have to agree with the last post. but animals that get the best of both worlds rarely throw it. the mold is broke after making them. Pye was one of those rarities that, when lines were tight, threw dogs both as good, if not better, in shape and attitude. i saw another pic of him fine looking animal Was it this one? Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 He's a fine looking dog ,but form follows function and as long as he done the job that's enough, And I gather he did Quote Link to post
wi11ow 2,657 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 i have to agree with the last post. but animals that get the best of both worlds rarely throw it. the mold is broke after making them. Pye was one of those rarities that, when lines were tight, threw dogs both as good, if not better, in shape and attitude. i saw another pic of him fine looking animal Was it this one? pie.jpg yes thats the one a athlete Quote Link to post
jeemes 3,491 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 how old was he when he lost his tail? before he got his name as a good worker or after? Don't know what age he lost his tail, fairly young I think. He had a name as a worker from the off, for those who knew the dog but his name grew with his offspring and then, as of so many dogs, became a 'legend' ( ) on internet forums. That picture must be over 20 years old, I put it up only for the fact that as a 'genuine' he was/is the best example of type i've ever seen. Do you mean he looks 50/50 ? Sort of Jeemes, is it really cut and dried at 50/50, I know thats what in theory you should aim for but I honestly think there are first crosses that seem to make sommat better? Take that Pye dog, he ain't 50/50, in certain parts of his body he's almost pure one thing or the other. How much bull blood is in his height, how much greyhound in his head... Nope, for me he's simply threw to the best of both and the percentages fall where they fall. Many good half bred's, of any type, fall that way... Yes I agree with what you are saying,but also I think the two breeds compliment each other and blend very well with further in or line breeding,provided the right types were there in the first cross. For instance not all Bull types are as keen for the actual physical work as others and the same with greys, If you get the right ones that eat work you can get fitness to much higher levels. 1 Quote Link to post
Daniele Santoni 6 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Nice dog! Quote Link to post
Magpie_Hunter 17 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 what works best for a first cross, dam bull and stud grey or other way around, dam grey and stud bull?? Atb Magpie_Hunter Quote Link to post
samba 534 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 what works best for a first cross, dam bull and stud grey or other way around, dam grey and stud bull?? Atb Magpie_Hunter ive done it both ways both produced what was wanted 2 Quote Link to post
South hams hunter 8,814 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Cracking example, from the pictures I've seen so was ray walkers buck Quote Link to post
stabba 10,745 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Cracking example, from the pictures I've seen so was ray walkers buck What colour was RW's Buck ??? Quote Link to post
gnipper 5,944 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 I'd imagine it was a nice lean bull that sired him rather than the type you see everywhere nowadays that are like american bulldogs? Quote Link to post
harddigging 42 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 you couldnt breed a good first cross in this day an age 1 Quote Link to post
jeemes 3,491 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Cracking example, from the pictures I've seen so was ray walkers buck was it a similar stamp ? can u put pic up? Quote Link to post
Magpie_Hunter 17 Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 what works best for a first cross, dam bull and stud grey or other way around, dam grey and stud bull?? Atb Magpie_Hunter ive done it both ways both produced what Cracking example, from the pictures I've seen so was ray walkers buck was it a similar stamp ? can u put pic up? what works best for a first cross, dam bull and stud grey or other way around, dam grey and stud bull?? Atb Magpie_Hunter ive done it both ways both produced what was wanted ok, thanks for info. Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 (edited) what works best for a first cross, dam bull and stud grey or other way around, dam grey and stud bull?? Atb Magpie_Hunter ive done it both ways both produced what was wanted Samba ,would I be right in saying pye,looks a similar stamp to your old dog in your avatar? Edited August 9, 2014 by roybo Quote Link to post
samba 534 Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 what works best for a first cross, dam bull and stud grey or other way around, dam grey and stud bull?? Atb Magpie_Hunter ive done it both ways both produced what was wanted Samba ,would I be right in saying pye,looks a similar stamp to your old dog in your avatar? yes I would say simalar 3 Quote Link to post
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