liamdelaney 2,585 Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 The fawn dog was always a dog and was worked hard bye me and a Brendan fellow,the red and white dog don't know where you heard about him being five times anything,his litter brother went well across the water.People got out of staffs after the trials ended on a sour note.Certain pits men from Cork still came up to put the Cuilleog blood in there pits,not bad for dogs that were only show dogs.The show people killed the Staff,people like me and others kept them alive for a long time. 1 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) When bull was added over here(back in the day)it was staff,but back then some lines were as game as the APB,and pits were non existent or very scarce to say the least.A lot of black dogs have bull in them some way back, some not so way back.The best kind in my opinion was breed them down to one eight,and if they made the grade, breed one eight to one eight,I seen some very gamey little dogs from this method.A lot of the half crosses I seen were mute and style of work gave them a short life span,even a lot of the quarters were mute.I personally never seen a good cross to the white bulls as most of them were useless anyway IMO.The bulls made a much bigger contribution to the working terrier than a lot of people care to admit. When bull was added over here(back in the day)it was staff,but back then some lines were as game as the APB,and pits were non existent or very scarce to say the least.A lot of black dogs have bull in them some way back, some not so way back.The best kind in my opinion was breed them down to one eight,and if they made the grade, breed one eight to one eight,I seen some very gamey little dogs from this method.A lot of the half crosses I seen were mute and style of work gave them a short life span,even a lot of the quarters were mute.I personally never seen a good cross to the white bulls as most of them were useless anyway IMO.The bulls made a much bigger contribution to the working terrier than a lot of people care to admit. Back in the day the "Staff" was actually the working pit dog of the U.K, also known as the APBT these days. Edited October 29, 2014 by DogFox123 1 Quote Link to post
bryanm45 787 Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) No bull blood in ere. Edited November 2, 2014 by bryanm45 Quote Link to post
pablo esc 1,598 Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Strong chap, was the parents smooth coated Bryan? Quote Link to post
bryanm45 787 Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Both parents choc smooth coated, dame nutal line sire wheeler. Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 No bull blood in ere. Course it's got Bull blood in it somewhere along the lines. 2 Quote Link to post
shaneg 2,577 Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Wheeler has bull blood in the make up bryanm45 Quote Link to post
marshman 7,756 Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Lads I think byranm45 was joking lol Quote Link to post
shaneg 2,577 Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 I really hope he is Quote Link to post
bryanm45 787 Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 I was, joking of course, his head is as wide as it is long. 1 Quote Link to post
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