shropshire dan 467 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Hi all, until I have gained experiance witg rimfire rifles I can't get a Centre fire. I have a .22lr and I'm about to get a HMR the .17 is on my cert for fox and vermin control. Now I know a HMR isn't the ideal fox calibre but at the moment I have no alternative. I'm looking at hornady v-max 17g but for fox have read a few posts that say CCI gameshok 20g are better for charlie. Can anyone with experiance of foxing with a hmr advise please Thanks in advance Atb Dan Quote Link to post
Al69ec 5 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 I've lost count of how many fox I've had with my hmr mate. Only ever fed it the 17g v-max an always dropped them on the spot at good ranges. Not a dedicated fox calibre but more than capable. If your thinkin 20g wht not try the hornady xtp instead if the cci? 1 Quote Link to post
Bunny Boiler 177 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Density kills so, I would assume the 20g round would be better, but a well placed .17, or even .22 (in theory!) would work. Quote Link to post
Elliott 436 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) .17 grn V-Max will be perfectly fine. In all cases with the HMR on fox, try to keep it at sub 100 yards and go for head shots only Edited February 4, 2014 by Elliott Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Thanks a lot guys. Alec69 my local rfd only sells cci gameshok 20g and hornady v-max 17g. What would be my range limit for head shots and also would a heart/lung shot be out of the question? Thanks again Atb Dan Quote Link to post
Al69ec 5 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Thanks a lot guys. Alec69 my local rfd only sells cci gameshok 20g and hornady v-max 17g. What would be my range limit for head shots and also would a heart/lung shot be out of the question? Thanks again Atb Dan if your zeroed at 100yrds the hmr is more than capable for head or engine room. I tend not to shoot Charlie over this range and prefer to squeek it up a little closer but I no of deadly shots beyond that range with no problem. Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Thanks a lot matey. Great advise ill keep to a 100yard max head shot if possible chest if not thanks again Atb Dan Quote Link to post
delswal 3,817 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Thanks a lot guys. Alec69 my local rfd only sells cci gameshok 20g and hornady v-max 17g. What would be my range limit for head shots and also would a heart/lung shot be out of the question? Thanks again Atb Dan if your just getting the hmr .17 get used to the gun first …..dont even be thinking of 100yd head shots until your fully confident in your rifle ……only takes the fox to move at the last second before you pull the trigger ….and you end up sending an injured fox away suffering with a head wound……smashed muzzle or broken jaw ………….and don't think it won't happen because it will ……….good luck with the .17 2 Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Cheers delswal. I have had my .22lr a few months now and have the habit of ensuring I can confidently hit 50p consistently before shooting at any live animal even when ratting I insist on giving the animal the most humane dispatch. When I got the .22lr I ran 250 rounds through it on targets to get the feel for the rifle/scope setup. Thanks again Atb Dan Quote Link to post
Deker 3,450 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Use what works for you, the 17g V-Max works for me, the 20g "can" zing right through! My HMR gets best results and now dedicated with 17g V-max. Close to just over 100 yards, 4 shots, 4 fox 17g V-Max! 4 Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 thats that sorted then deker i can read as much as i like on the net but until i get the info from lads that have tried and tested the methods i cant get a clear understanding. The proof is in the pudding, what rifle are you using? im looking at the cz455 laminate thumbhole or a silhouette 16inch Atb Dan Quote Link to post
Elliott 436 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Use what works for you, the 17g V-Max works for me, the 20g "can" zing right through! My HMR gets best results and now dedicated with 17g V-max. Dsc03016b.jpg Close to just over 100 yards, 4 shots, 4 fox 17g V-Max! Ditto Deker Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Nice one Elliott Atb Dan Quote Link to post
Deker 3,450 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 thats that sorted then deker i can read as much as i like on the net but until i get the info from lads that have tried and tested the methods i cant get a clear understanding. The proof is in the pudding, what rifle are you using? im looking at the cz455 laminate thumbhole or a silhouette 16inch Atb Dan Mine is a 452 Silhouette, the site had been well surveyed and researched, the foxes baited and timed, all shot on a School sports field from a prone position off a bipod using a NS200. The HMR was the tool of choice for the job and worked. Final visit removed the last of 8 foxes in total from the site, very early start for this one and caught him on his way home, stuck around a while and the opportunity to remove a few more pests from site developed, all HMR V-Max, eventually went home about 09.00! That was a good site, everything went like clockwork, they don't always work out quite so easy! 1 Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Happy days Deker. Nice shooting Atb Dan Quote Link to post
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