black philip 2 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 they were purely a kennel club creation never meant for work,the only proper big allrounder in the terrier world is the wheaten Quote Link to post
foxhound45 167 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 They were never a Kennel Club creation. Check out my page.... https://www.(!64.56:886/AnTain 2 Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I have tried some airedales and wish they were everything you read about in old books but I think it is sadly just not true. They get better with a flight over the atlantic 2 Quote Link to post
Bossie 90 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I admire your determination to working and improving the breed and eventually (hopefully) getting dogs that will live up to those expectations which you find all over the net. However I do wonder, and this is a genuine question not bashing your dogs or effort, where does the Airedale fit in nowadays as a hunting dog with breeds/types like the Drahthaar or the Heideterrier? Quote Link to post
General lee 979 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I'm not an expert by any means however I am interested in this breed and it seems to me they must still have a place in the field and be quite usefull as they are being used in America Europe and Australia on all manor of game if they were just a kennel club creation and were no good for hunting I doubt they would have made it to these country's let alone still be there and being used in the manor they are Quote Link to post
wilko tango 50 Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 they were purely a kennel club creation never meant for work,the only proper big allrounder in the terrier world is the wheaten they were purely a kennel club creation never meant for work,the only proper big allrounder in the terrier world is the wheaten wheatons were used for thing imo and i dont think you could get a better dog for the job.But from whatever experience iv had with wheatons i would certainly not thrust them to run cover cause they will tackle any livestock in sight 1 Quote Link to post
foxhound45 167 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 We have to be careful though, we are falling into the trap here of talking only about digging. Look at the different types of prey we have, hunting styles be it working cover, hound work over bogs, ratting, ferreting, tracking wounded deer and for those in England even wild boar. This breed was exhausted during the second world war as enlisted war canines to the extent that must of our current hunting bloodlines comes from American and European lineage, I can vouch for that as I have both Canadian and American bred bitches. But I have a huge problem which I am hoping someone can help me with. I need a male to cover a bitch, it can't be any male, it has to be a solid dog that is either working or from working lines. Can anyone help? Quote Link to post
black philip 2 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 if properly stock broken a wheaten can be used in any hunting enviornment the good ones are loyal intelligent and pure game 2 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,415 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Black Phillip, giving out bad information such as that is one of the reasons so many people take on a breed, realise it's totally unsuited for them and ends up on the merry-go-round of dogs for sale. A good, properly bred wheaten is not suited for running loose around the countryside. 7 Quote Link to post
fat man 4,740 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I can just imagine a good game wheaten running loose and its blood up,run roit more like it. 1 Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,585 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Never came on a stock broken wheaten in my life,and I seen one or two. 2 Quote Link to post
black philip 2 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 youve seen one or two did u ever own a good one probably not well i have and they were stock broken and pure game Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,099 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Do they use them for man work/Schutzhund and are/will the tail's be docked? I still think a good suited Lurcher would work similar terrain, as good if not better. Saying that I would give a good one a try, I like them a lot. At the moment I am using a Mali in my pack to good effect. If a decent Airdale would of been available when I was looking for a new dog, I would of certainly taken a look. Good luck, I will be watching with interest. Quote Link to post
THE GENERAL 1,975 Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 if properly stock broken a wheaten can be used in any hunting enviornment the good ones are loyal intelligent and pure gameI've yet to see "a good one" that ticks all them boxes. I know I never will and I don't believe there ever was. Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,415 Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 youve seen one or two did u ever own a good one probably not well i have and they were stock broken and pure game So in your experience with ,as you call them, Pure Game Wheatens could you hunt a few of them together loose through covert where they would find and hunt quarry? Then could you hunt the same wheatens through, say, a field of sheep no problem ? Also with your wheatens could you hunt them in say, a bit of strange country where there'd be the risk of earths ? Also if as you say, the wheaten is the best of the large all round terriers can you shoot over them ? 1 Quote Link to post
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