Án Táin Working Airedales - New Recruit

[neil cooney 10,415]

 

 

 

 

I have no interest in money Cooney.

OK Hound, just that to me it looks like you already have your sales pitch in order.

But, like I said, time will tell.

A few things confuse me though.

You say they're rare. When I used to write to Henry a good bit I was of the impression that there were plenty of working Airedales in the states.

You say they'll be the best HUNT terrier. What's wrong with the types used nowadays ?

Also, are you trying to tell us you dig to them ??

I'd also find it hard to believe they're better in covert than a foxhound , but that's just my own opinion.

Good luck with your new scheme.

 

the only thing they can't do is catch fast game in the open on their own, but they were never designed to be running dogs as such.

 

 

I cant see them being much use as an earthdog either

 

he never said he used them for digging mate an earthdog is a terrier that enters a earth and locates and works its quarry till dug out.......think what he means when he said about them been silent when out digging was that when the terrier is removed /quarry bolts to net and the Airedale shown its quarry it deals with it quickly and silently not barking at it with its tail between its legs

 

I think you'll find he said "They are completely silent when digging."

If your talking about drawing ,which is illegal, most wheatens or staffs in the good ol' days when used for drawing were NOT silent so I doubt the Airedale is better than those breeds bred for the task.

If he's saying they're gamer than the wheaten or staff then he's made a very bold statement indeed.

I'm not going to turn his thread into an argument so good luck with the venture.

Edited December 27, 2013 by neil cooney

[Jachtterrier 50]

did you ever work a german wirehaired pointer or a jagd terrier?

[Davro 108]

 

 

 

 

 

I have no interest in money Cooney.

OK Hound, just that to me it looks like you already have your sales pitch in order.

But, like I said, time will tell.

A few things confuse me though.

You say they're rare. When I used to write to Henry a good bit I was of the impression that there were plenty of working Airedales in the states.

You say they'll be the best HUNT terrier. What's wrong with the types used nowadays ?

Also, are you trying to tell us you dig to them ??

I'd also find it hard to believe they're better in covert than a foxhound , but that's just my own opinion.

Good luck with your new scheme.

 

the only thing they can't do is catch fast game in the open on their own, but they were never designed to be running dogs as such.

 

 

I cant see them being much use as an earthdog either

 

he never said he used them for digging mate an earthdog is a terrier that enters a earth and locates and works its quarry till dug out.......think what he means when he said about them been silent when out digging was that when the terrier is removed /quarry bolts to net and the Airedale shown its quarry it deals with it quickly and silently not barking at it with its tail between its legs

 

I think you'll find he said "They are completely silent when digging."

If your talking about drawing ,which is illegal, most wheatens or staffs in the good ol' days when used for drawing were NOT silent so I doubt the Airedale is better than those breeds bred for the task.

If he's saying they're gamer than the wheaten or staff then he's made a very bold statement indeed.

I'm not going to turn his thread into an argument so good luck with the venture.

 

maybe they have more than one string to there bow

[Pedwar 320]

 

 

 

 

I have no interest in money Cooney.

OK Hound, just that to me it looks like you already have your sales pitch in order.

But, like I said, time will tell.

A few things confuse me though.

You say they're rare. When I used to write to Henry a good bit I was of the impression that there were plenty of working Airedales in the states.

You say they'll be the best HUNT terrier. What's wrong with the types used nowadays ?

Also, are you trying to tell us you dig to them ??

I'd also find it hard to believe they're better in covert than a foxhound , but that's just my own opinion.

Good luck with your new scheme.

 

the only thing they can't do is catch fast game in the open on their own, but they were never designed to be running dogs as such.

 

 

I cant see them being much use as an earthdog either

 

he never said he used them for digging mate an earthdog is a terrier that enters a earth and locates and works its quarry till dug out.......think what he means when he said about them been silent when out digging was that when the terrier is removed /quarry bolts to net and the Airedale shown its quarry it deals with it quickly and silently not barking at it with its tail between its legs

 

 

I was quoting Skycat who posted..."the only thing they can't do is catch fast game in the open on their own"

[THE GENERAL 1,975]

I'm certain he meant they are completely silent when digging as in removing quarry after a terrier has been dug too. If it interests some folk I'd say he will answer any questions off the open forum regarding that issue. Maybe he worded it that way for a reason, as he didn't want to highlight that aspect. I wish him the best off luck as I would never try and knock anyone with a passion for a breed of dog that has a hunting capability trying to bring out the best in them. Surely there's types and strains off working dogs out there that specialise in the fields an Airedale may cover, I hope hes not that naive to believe they would better these types. They might do in certain ways as stated when hunting cover and having the ability to scent better with the extra scent glands they possess, but not being vocal like a hound is a downside for obvious reasons. Tracking larger game like deer would more than likely bring the strongest points out in them but if they are versatile enough in other areas and can tick a few more boxes then let them at it. It's obviously not for everybody but it's good to know somebody's appreciating them for there working abilities.

Edited December 28, 2013 by THE GENERAL

[deerdogs 394]

saw a pair of airedales very similar to these whist visiting family in leicestershire last week, very nice dogs.

[foxhound45 167]

Hey Jachtterrier, I have never worked a German Wirehair or Jagd terrier although my roots lie in stalking deer and have seen the Wire-hair being worked several times this past few years on Sika deer.

 

An absolutely fantastic dog! Brilliant at pointing deer and following up, although I do know of one dog that has loads of fire and if the deer is wounded and the dog is not already on a long-line well go off in pursuit. This is only down to training and I know that with good training a wire-hair wouldn't do this. But one thing is for sure with any of the German breeds you can't question the aggression with big game.

 

I spoke to Neils Sonndergaard face to face about my Airedales and he helped iron out a few problems which were in fact more due to me than the dog. He couldn't believe that in the UK or Ireland dogs are frowned from holding wounded big game where in fact in many of the European countries dogs are fitted with GPS and unleashed to track independently and either hold or bring wounded big game to bay.

 

Would like to see a few photos of your dogs if you would have the time to stick them up.

[Blind Hawk 57]

Fine looking does Lad best of luck with your future pups

HAPPY HUNTING

[General lee 979]

Always had a soft spot for Airedales but they are hard to find good ones over here why some people have to pick on this man I have no idea the Airedale was a good working dog that nearly vanished from the field this man is trying to bring them back he said he isn't selling the dogs and he still gets no it alls picking fault good luck with them mate hope you succeed in what your attempting

[bullx100% 681]

Always had a soft spot for Airedales but they are hard to find good ones over here why some people have to pick on this man I have no idea the Airedale was a good working dog that nearly vanished from the field this man is trying to bring them back he said he isn't selling the dogs and he still gets no it alls picking fault good luck with them mate hope you succeed in what your attempting

 

 

agree with you mate.......anyone trying to keep a working breed going gets a hats off from me.....as long as there doing it for the right reasons and not money

 

 

and i don't think the lad is about the money

[TaylorF457 10]

Always found this breed of dog smart and you have some good example of a smart airedales cracking dogs mate

[foxhound45 167]

Thanks TaylorF, I put alot of work into my dogs and have given them the time to mature so I can see where they are stronger in some areas than others. Nothing better than the feeling of unclipping them all from their chains to start a hunt first thing on a Saturday morning!

[bluecollar 104]

Here in the usa there are not many people working airedales pure. If you seen a really good Black Mouth Cur you would understand why.

[bluecollar 104]

I have tried some airedales and wish they were everything you read about in old books but I think it is sadly just not true.

[General lee 979]

What's your thoughts on the Airedales blue collar would like to hear them I'm really interested in them and you have got the chance to use them on game we couldn't in little old England