walshie 2,804 Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 thought thats when yous strung up poor Saddam to get your hands on his oilOf course, you don't use petrol, diesel, gas and oil in Ireland do you? What do you run your cars on, poitin? Peat. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Ha ha, some Scottish bloke, think he was a catholic. He failed anyhow, why is it celebrated lol Guy Fawkes was English...and it happened a long time ago. Therefore English History. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ratreeper 441 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Ha ha, some Scottish bloke, think he was a catholic. He failed anyhow, why is it celebrated lol Guy Fawkes was English...and it happened a long time ago. Therefore English History. And Google is American, not sure why they should give two shits about a small annual event held on a tiny island to 'remember remember' a failed attempt at terrorism Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Suzy Ross 236 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Never knew that walshie, always thought he was Scottish. Thanks to google not being patriotic, you've taught me something new today ha. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hily 379 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 could it be that the guyfawks wont generate much merchandise not as lucrative as say Halloween my grand kids got wound up over Halloween down to it been promoted by the retail media nowt to do with history .My own opinion is we should teach our kids history as well as our traditions . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Ha ha, some Scottish bloke, think he was a catholic. He failed anyhow, why is it celebrated lol Guy Fawkes was English...and it happened a long time ago. Therefore English History. And Google is American, not sure why they should give two shits about a small annual event held on a tiny island to 'remember remember' a failed attempt at terrorism Do you know much about the history of the USA mate? Their history is very much our history, especially back when Guido Fawkes tried blowing the government and monarchy into a million tiny bits., I'd bet very few Yanks couldn't tell you who Guy Fawkes was when asked.. ..and Google is a global business, its main page address is www.google.co.uk here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,568 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 (edited) To widen the debate slightly, why do we teach children, from a young age, the finer points of Diwali and the like, yet they are told little of English (and indeed British) history. What are they taught of the likes of Wellington, Nelson, Cromwell or the mighty Churchill? When King Richard III's remains were identified recently, it was said on the news that he was the last English monarch to lead his troops into battle and the last monarch to die in battle - but how many knew that before it was reported? But it's not only about the well-known figures, and English (and British) history has so much to take pride from. Last year, I had the privilege of meeting a WW2 Spitfire pilot. I felt it was a genuine honour to meet a living hero of history, a man who helped shape the way we are today.(Those of us who truly understand what he did,anyway!) (I'm getting to the point) History should not be a forgotten subject in a dusty old book - it should be a part of us all, a subject of collective pride and heritage. I could go on, but you get the idea...................... Edited November 5, 2013 by Blackbriar 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 even back in my school days,history consisted of battle of hastings 1066 norman conquest.then tbh no much else i can remember lol. what i know is from books,and stuff that interested me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RubyTex 1,957 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 even back in my school days,history consisted of battle of hastings 1066 norman conquest.then tbh no much else i can remember lol. what i know is from books,and stuff that interested me. Think my school days were the same, we learnt about ww2 in primary school but in secondary i did history right through and did everything from Britain to the Romans....if someone tried teaching me about diwali or any other foreign bollocks i would be skipping school. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,637 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 At the risk of upsetting you lot, Can anybody actually tell us what is on a typical school history syllabus? Because I'll hazard a guess it's not fecking Diwaly, that's usually part of religious studies. Yes we should learn more about our own history to encourage pride in our nation but lets not let a strong sense of nationalism impinge on learning about other cultures and world history. We don't just learn history to sit here all proud to be British, it's important to understand other cultures and their history for political and economic reasons. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,568 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Just to be clear,I never said Diwali was on a history syllabus............................. Diwali is not just a religious festival - it also marks the beginning of the Indian financial year. Enough knowledge of other cultures and economics for you ? (I'm being sarky,BH!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 The history of this nation is read world wide good and bad sad and mad. But its what makes us what we are the envy of the world. !!!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,637 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Just to be clear,I never said Diwali was on a history syllabus............................. Diwali is not just a religious festival - it also marks the beginning of the Indian financial year. Enough knowledge of other cultures and economics for you ? (I'm being sarky,BH!) So, you agree with me then? Sorry for confusing your post, just the topic of conversation was History not Religious studies. Whether kids should be taught other cultures religions is surely another debate? That aside, you are complaining about kids not being taught English history but do we actually know what they are taught or just assume we do? I'm 25 and in my years of state education I covered a lot of British history as well as a couple of topics of other nations history like the American west. What exactly do we want to change? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 even over here in northern Ireland theres a struggle going on to stay within Britain, all you get is you cant do that you cant do this now a days, even the marching season is being deemed as criminal . (personally I don't watch the bands) but thres only so much people will take as change before they take it to the streets. everywhere over the world and home britishness is being chipped away and our wanker$ in parliament is letting it happen. theres flag protests over here too arguing over the union and tricolour being taken down and flown. if it was me in power id say right take both down and stick up the northern flag as its the flag of our own country which is now deemed as sectarianism. FCUKING DISGRACE. theres a big part of English history to do with over here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,637 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 I'm pretty sure the state does Max. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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