if greyhounds are the fastest?...

[sandymere 8,260]

I've had greys for track and field, I've found small bitches can work ok on the lamp, basically there not much difference from a 3/4 bred especially if the non grey 1/4 is sighthound. They, like any dog, come with good and bad feet but the faster the dog runs the higher the impact forces so any fast dog is more likely to get foot injuries. Basically if you like a racey type animal then a smaller greyhound brought up as a working dog would probably serve as well as many sight hound saturated lurchers. I had a little bitch that showed very well when running the lamp especially when compared to a friends whippet/grey, she had better stamina for a start.

They wouldn't win a fen match anymore than most lurchers wouldn't, it's a specialist area, but that doesn't mean they are useless just different and how many match dogs would be winners greyhound without in their history.

 

A few I've had before most on here were out of nappies lol remmember the 's

 

Edited January 9, 2013 by sandymere

[kranky 507]

Your just being silly now kranky. You said you never thought people would talk about ex racers in the field. Errrr hello, what are 99.99999% of greyhounds used for? I don't think you have ever been in a field have you? You say greyhounds have great feet, are you serious? Obviously lurchers hit stuff but here's a wee something for you to digest, the faster the animal the more likely it is to hit something. You take a speed bomb into a boulder strewn hill, it's more likely to hit one compared to a more slower type. I seriously don't know why I'm wasting my time with you, your knowledge regarding field craft comes from books. Ill just bow to your superior knowledge on the matter...... Greyhounds are the dogs bollocks

 

What are.you on about? The majority of greyhounds in this country are used for racing but this isn't about racing dogs.

You're such a fan of quoting me, show me where I said greyhounds had great feet. They haven't got feet that get smashed up everytime they're out, anymore than any other dog. Some have good feet some have bad feet. You've not answered my questions with regard to the other breeds I mentioned because you do t know the answers. Long toes don't make a dog slower or more prone to injury.

A faster dog is more likely to hit stuff than a slower dog? Are you seriously offering that up as a fact? Lack of real world experience is showing through here.

are you seriously arguing that fact? a fast dog is always going to be more prone to hitting stuff that a slower dog due to momentum etc., didn't you ever do physics at school pal?

 

An ill balanced dog will hit more stuff than a fast one. Certain breeds of dog are more inclined to hit stuff due to their conformation rather than their speed. Some slow dogs hit more stuff than faster dogs due to their mentality.

[reddawn 2,173]

lets be honest, how many folk actually need the stamina of a saluki or a deerhound, or even a collie?

 

greyhounds may be far from ideal when compared to a well bred lurcher for hunting, but i dont care what anybody says, a grey or a heavily grey influenced lurcher is summat else to watch, iv seen dogs run that fast they put ye heart in ye mouth, may not be as hardy as a dog with less grey an less speed, but its good fookin fun watching them get upto an work there quarry

[rob190364 2,593]

Your just being silly now kranky. You said you never thought people would talk about ex racers in the field. Errrr hello, what are 99.99999% of greyhounds used for? I don't think you have ever been in a field have you? You say greyhounds have great feet, are you serious? Obviously lurchers hit stuff but here's a wee something for you to digest, the faster the animal the more likely it is to hit something. You take a speed bomb into a boulder strewn hill, it's more likely to hit one compared to a more slower type. I seriously don't know why I'm wasting my time with you, your knowledge regarding field craft comes from books. Ill just bow to your superior knowledge on the matter...... Greyhounds are the dogs bollocks

 

What are.you on about? The majority of greyhounds in this country are used for racing but this isn't about racing dogs.

You're such a fan of quoting me, show me where I said greyhounds had great feet. They haven't got feet that get smashed up everytime they're out, anymore than any other dog. Some have good feet some have bad feet. You've not answered my questions with regard to the other breeds I mentioned because you do t know the answers. Long toes don't make a dog slower or more prone to injury.

A faster dog is more likely to hit stuff than a slower dog? Are you seriously offering that up as a fact? Lack of real world experience is showing through here.

are you seriously arguing that fact? a fast dog is always going to be more prone to hitting stuff that a slower dog due to momentum etc., didn't you ever do physics at school pal?

 

I'm gonna be controversial here, I'd say driven dogs are more likely to hit stuff and stupid dogs are more likely to hit stuff, but a fast dog isn't necessarily more likely.

 

For instance a driven but slow animal like a terrier will be very likely to crash but a much faster dog running sensibly or lacking drive will quite possibly go it's whole career without a bad crash.

 

Also I would say fast dogs are more likely to cause serious injury in a crash than a slower dog, partly due to the speed and also the build of such dogs. So fast dogs may be considered more injury prone but I wouldn't say more likely to crash, that's a result of drive or brains imo.

 

And as a 'physicist', I feel qualified to answer that.

a super fast dog like a greyhound chasing quarry anywhere where there's any kind of obstacles is more likely to crash into something than a lurcher that's doing the same but a few miles an hour slower.

 

and the fact that by most accounts a pure greyhounds prey drive is through the roof makes what you say even more laughable!

Edited January 9, 2013 by rob190364

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Your just being silly now kranky. You said you never thought people would talk about ex racers in the field. Errrr hello, what are 99.99999% of greyhounds used for? I don't think you have ever been in a field have you? You say greyhounds have great feet, are you serious? Obviously lurchers hit stuff but here's a wee something for you to digest, the faster the animal the more likely it is to hit something. You take a speed bomb into a boulder strewn hill, it's more likely to hit one compared to a more slower type. I seriously don't know why I'm wasting my time with you, your knowledge regarding field craft comes from books. Ill just bow to your superior knowledge on the matter...... Greyhounds are the dogs bollocks

 

What are.you on about? The majority of greyhounds in this country are used for racing but this isn't about racing dogs.

You're such a fan of quoting me, show me where I said greyhounds had great feet. They haven't got feet that get smashed up everytime they're out, anymore than any other dog. Some have good feet some have bad feet. You've not answered my questions with regard to the other breeds I mentioned because you do t know the answers. Long toes don't make a dog slower or more prone to injury.

A faster dog is more likely to hit stuff than a slower dog? Are you seriously offering that up as a fact? Lack of real world experience is showing through here.

are you seriously arguing that fact? a fast dog is always going to be more prone to hitting stuff that a slower dog due to momentum etc., didn't you ever do physics at school pal?

 

I'm gonna be controversial here, I'd say driven dogs are more likely to hit stuff and stupid dogs are more likely to hit stuff, but a fast dog isn't necessarily more likely.

 

For instance a driven but slow animal like a terrier will be very likely to crash but a much faster dog running sensibly or lacking drive will quite possibly go it's whole career without a bad crash.

 

Also I would say fast dogs are more likely to cause serious injury in a crash than a slower dog, partly due to the speed and also the build of such dogs. So fast dogs may be considered more injury prone but I wouldn't say more likely to crash, that's a result of drive or brains imo.

 

And as a 'physicist', I feel qualified to answer that.

a super fast dog like a greyhound chasing quarry anywhere where there's any kind of obstacles is more likely to crash into something than a lurcher that's doing the same but a few miles an hour slower...the fact your even doubting that makes me start to agree with one or two others....that you've never even been out with a dog!

 

and the fact that by most accounts a pure greyhounds prey drive is through the roof makes what you say even more laughable!

 

I disagree.

 

A dog is gonna crash because it runs a few mph faster?

 

I dont think so.

[rob190364 2,593]

Your just being silly now kranky. You said you never thought people would talk about ex racers in the field. Errrr hello, what are 99.99999% of greyhounds used for? I don't think you have ever been in a field have you? You say greyhounds have great feet, are you serious? Obviously lurchers hit stuff but here's a wee something for you to digest, the faster the animal the more likely it is to hit something. You take a speed bomb into a boulder strewn hill, it's more likely to hit one compared to a more slower type. I seriously don't know why I'm wasting my time with you, your knowledge regarding field craft comes from books. Ill just bow to your superior knowledge on the matter...... Greyhounds are the dogs bollocks

 

What are.you on about? The majority of greyhounds in this country are used for racing but this isn't about racing dogs.

You're such a fan of quoting me, show me where I said greyhounds had great feet. They haven't got feet that get smashed up everytime they're out, anymore than any other dog. Some have good feet some have bad feet. You've not answered my questions with regard to the other breeds I mentioned because you do t know the answers. Long toes don't make a dog slower or more prone to injury.

A faster dog is more likely to hit stuff than a slower dog? Are you seriously offering that up as a fact? Lack of real world experience is showing through here.

are you seriously arguing that fact? a fast dog is always going to be more prone to hitting stuff that a slower dog due to momentum etc., didn't you ever do physics at school pal?

 

An ill balanced dog will hit more stuff than a fast one. Certain breeds of dog are more inclined to hit stuff due to their conformation rather than their speed. Some slow dogs hit more stuff than faster dogs due to their mentality.

and will then get back up and carry on.

 

I kind of get the feeling you're one of those people that argues for the sake of arguing tbh!

[Born Hunter 17,622]

Your just being silly now kranky. You said you never thought people would talk about ex racers in the field. Errrr hello, what are 99.99999% of greyhounds used for? I don't think you have ever been in a field have you? You say greyhounds have great feet, are you serious? Obviously lurchers hit stuff but here's a wee something for you to digest, the faster the animal the more likely it is to hit something. You take a speed bomb into a boulder strewn hill, it's more likely to hit one compared to a more slower type. I seriously don't know why I'm wasting my time with you, your knowledge regarding field craft comes from books. Ill just bow to your superior knowledge on the matter...... Greyhounds are the dogs bollocks

 

What are.you on about? The majority of greyhounds in this country are used for racing but this isn't about racing dogs.

You're such a fan of quoting me, show me where I said greyhounds had great feet. They haven't got feet that get smashed up everytime they're out, anymore than any other dog. Some have good feet some have bad feet. You've not answered my questions with regard to the other breeds I mentioned because you do t know the answers. Long toes don't make a dog slower or more prone to injury.

A faster dog is more likely to hit stuff than a slower dog? Are you seriously offering that up as a fact? Lack of real world experience is showing through here.

are you seriously arguing that fact? a fast dog is always going to be more prone to hitting stuff that a slower dog due to momentum etc., didn't you ever do physics at school pal?

 

I'm gonna be controversial here, I'd say driven dogs are more likely to hit stuff and stupid dogs are more likely to hit stuff, but a fast dog isn't necessarily more likely.

 

For instance a driven but slow animal like a terrier will be very likely to crash but a much faster dog running sensibly or lacking drive will quite possibly go it's whole career without a bad crash.

 

Also I would say fast dogs are more likely to cause serious injury in a crash than a slower dog, partly due to the speed and also the build of such dogs. So fast dogs may be considered more injury prone but I wouldn't say more likely to crash, that's a result of drive or brains imo.

 

And as a 'physicist', I feel qualified to answer that.

a super fast dog like a greyhound chasing quarry anywhere where there's any kind of obstacles is more likely to crash into something than a lurcher that's doing the same but a few miles an hour slower...the fact your even doubting that makes me start to agree with one or two others....that you've never even been out with a dog!

 

and the fact that by most accounts a pure greyhounds prey drive is through the roof makes what you say even more laughable!

 

Haha, alright, I've never been out with a dog. I made that story up earlier about our ex track dog nearly killing itself and that lurcher in my avatar is a stolen photo. Crack on fella.

 

You pulled kranky up on a quote about fast dogs being more likely to hit stuff. I was just giving my two pence worth about fast dogs. I didn't agree, I think it's more complex than 'fast dogs crash more than slow dogs'.

 

But nah you're right fella, I don't know shit.

[riohog 5,621]

Your just being silly now kranky. You said you never thought people would talk about ex racers in the field. Errrr hello, what are 99.99999% of greyhounds used for? I don't think you have ever been in a field have you? You say greyhounds have great feet, are you serious? Obviously lurchers hit stuff but here's a wee something for you to digest, the faster the animal the more likely it is to hit something. You take a speed bomb into a boulder strewn hill, it's more likely to hit one compared to a more slower type. I seriously don't know why I'm wasting my time with you, your knowledge regarding field craft comes from books. Ill just bow to your superior knowledge on the matter...... Greyhounds are the dogs bollocks

 

What are.you on about? The majority of greyhounds in this country are used for racing but this isn't about racing dogs.

You're such a fan of quoting me, show me where I said greyhounds had great feet. They haven't got feet that get smashed up everytime they're out, anymore than any other dog. Some have good feet some have bad feet. You've not answered my questions with regard to the other breeds I mentioned because you do t know the answers. Long toes don't make a dog slower or more prone to injury.

A faster dog is more likely to hit stuff than a slower dog? Are you seriously offering that up as a fact? Lack of real world experience is showing through here.

are you seriously arguing that fact? a fast dog is always going to be more prone to hitting stuff that a slower dog due to momentum etc., didn't you ever do physics at school pal?

 

An ill balanced dog will hit more stuff than a fast one. Certain breeds of dog are more inclined to hit stuff due to their conformation rather than their speed. Some slow dogs hit more stuff than faster dogs due to their mentality.

what book did you read that from , ? its blatently ovious to most you have little to no experience of running and working dogs in the field ,the more you say the more it just confirmes it

[weasle 1,119]

lets be honest, how many folk actually need the stamina of a saluki or a deerhound, or even a collie?

 

greyhounds may be far from ideal when compared to a well bred lurcher for hunting, but i dont care what anybody says, a grey or a heavily grey influenced lurcher is summat else to watch, iv seen dogs run that fast they put ye heart in ye mouth, may not be as hardy as a dog with less grey an less speed, but its good fookin fun watching them get upto an work there quarry

I have a fast dog and a slow half x the half x has caught more rabbits for me than any other dog ive ever owned,she lamp 5 nights a week if you ask her ferreting in the day.Never once have i came back from a trip out with her buzzing in fact its boring.

On the other hand i have a driven speedster had her share of injury's due to her speed,me running her on ground that i probably shouldn't and the fact that she wont let prey especially her favorite get away just because it got to the hedge before her.

Fact is id rather spend a hour lamping that bitch than a season with the half x.

No more half x for me id rather 2 fast ones.

[rob190364 2,593]

Your just being silly now kranky. You said you never thought people would talk about ex racers in the field. Errrr hello, what are 99.99999% of greyhounds used for? I don't think you have ever been in a field have you? You say greyhounds have great feet, are you serious? Obviously lurchers hit stuff but here's a wee something for you to digest, the faster the animal the more likely it is to hit something. You take a speed bomb into a boulder strewn hill, it's more likely to hit one compared to a more slower type. I seriously don't know why I'm wasting my time with you, your knowledge regarding field craft comes from books. Ill just bow to your superior knowledge on the matter...... Greyhounds are the dogs bollocks

 

What are.you on about? The majority of greyhounds in this country are used for racing but this isn't about racing dogs.

You're such a fan of quoting me, show me where I said greyhounds had great feet. They haven't got feet that get smashed up everytime they're out, anymore than any other dog. Some have good feet some have bad feet. You've not answered my questions with regard to the other breeds I mentioned because you do t know the answers. Long toes don't make a dog slower or more prone to injury.

A faster dog is more likely to hit stuff than a slower dog? Are you seriously offering that up as a fact? Lack of real world experience is showing through here.

are you seriously arguing that fact? a fast dog is always going to be more prone to hitting stuff that a slower dog due to momentum etc., didn't you ever do physics at school pal?

 

I'm gonna be controversial here, I'd say driven dogs are more likely to hit stuff and stupid dogs are more likely to hit stuff, but a fast dog isn't necessarily more likely.

 

For instance a driven but slow animal like a terrier will be very likely to crash but a much faster dog running sensibly or lacking drive will quite possibly go it's whole career without a bad crash.

 

Also I would say fast dogs are more likely to cause serious injury in a crash than a slower dog, partly due to the speed and also the build of such dogs. So fast dogs may be considered more injury prone but I wouldn't say more likely to crash, that's a result of drive or brains imo.

 

And as a 'physicist', I feel qualified to answer that.

a super fast dog like a greyhound chasing quarry anywhere where there's any kind of obstacles is more likely to crash into something than a lurcher that's doing the same but a few miles an hour slower...the fact your even doubting that makes me start to agree with one or two others....that you've never even been out with a dog!

 

and the fact that by most accounts a pure greyhounds prey drive is through the roof makes what you say even more laughable!

 

Haha, alright, I've never been out with a dog. I made that story up earlier about our ex track dog nearly killing itself and that lurcher in my avatar is a stolen photo. Crack on fella.

 

You pulled kranky up on a quote about fast dogs being more likely to hit stuff. I was just giving my two pence worth about fast dogs. I didn't agree, I think it's more complex than 'fast dogs crash more than slow dogs'.

 

But nah you're right fella, I don't know shit.

sorry pal, I thought I was replying to kranky there!!! durr! ignore what I said about never going out with a dog etc. but I still don't agree that a fast dog isn't more likely to hit something than a slow dog, just don't buy it at all.

[reddawn 2,173]

lets be honest, how many folk actually need the stamina of a saluki or a deerhound, or even a collie?

 

greyhounds may be far from ideal when compared to a well bred lurcher for hunting, but i dont care what anybody says, a grey or a heavily grey influenced lurcher is summat else to watch, iv seen dogs run that fast they put ye heart in ye mouth, may not be as hardy as a dog with less grey an less speed, but its good fookin fun watching them get upto an work there quarry

I have a fast dog and a slow half x the half x has caught more rabbits for me than any other dog ive ever owned,she lamp 5 nights a week if you ask her ferreting in the day.Never once have i came back from a trip out with her buzzing in fact its boring.

On the other hand i have a driven speedster had her share of injury's due to her speed,me running her on ground that i probably shouldn't and the fact that she wont let prey especially her favorite get away just because it got to the hedge before her.

Fact is id rather spend a hour lamping that bitch than a season with the half x.

No more half x for me id rather 2 fast ones.

 

begining to get that way here aswel mate

[kranky 507]

Your just being silly now kranky. You said you never thought people would talk about ex racers in the field. Errrr hello, what are 99.99999% of greyhounds used for? I don't think you have ever been in a field have you? You say greyhounds have great feet, are you serious? Obviously lurchers hit stuff but here's a wee something for you to digest, the faster the animal the more likely it is to hit something. You take a speed bomb into a boulder strewn hill, it's more likely to hit one compared to a more slower type. I seriously don't know why I'm wasting my time with you, your knowledge regarding field craft comes from books. Ill just bow to your superior knowledge on the matter...... Greyhounds are the dogs bollocks

 

What are.you on about? The majority of greyhounds in this country are used for racing but this isn't about racing dogs.

You're such a fan of quoting me, show me where I said greyhounds had great feet. They haven't got feet that get smashed up everytime they're out, anymore than any other dog. Some have good feet some have bad feet. You've not answered my questions with regard to the other breeds I mentioned because you do t know the answers. Long toes don't make a dog slower or more prone to injury.

A faster dog is more likely to hit stuff than a slower dog? Are you seriously offering that up as a fact? Lack of real world experience is showing through here.

are you seriously arguing that fact? a fast dog is always going to be more prone to hitting stuff that a slower dog due to momentum etc., didn't you ever do physics at school pal?

 

An ill balanced dog will hit more stuff than a fast one. Certain breeds of dog are more inclined to hit stuff due to their conformation rather than their speed. Some slow dogs hit more stuff than faster dogs due to their mentality.

and will then get back up and carry on.

 

I kind of get the feeling you're one of those people that argues for the sake of arguing tbh!

 

What????? What if it hits a fence post or a 5 bar gate or a piece of machinery ? It's just gonna jump up and carry on? Get a grip!! Regardless of the speed some things stop a dog in it's tracks. A 90lb Grey isn't a fragile animal. You're arguing and coming out with ridiculous statements.

[rob190364 2,593]

Your just being silly now kranky. You said you never thought people would talk about ex racers in the field. Errrr hello, what are 99.99999% of greyhounds used for? I don't think you have ever been in a field have you? You say greyhounds have great feet, are you serious? Obviously lurchers hit stuff but here's a wee something for you to digest, the faster the animal the more likely it is to hit something. You take a speed bomb into a boulder strewn hill, it's more likely to hit one compared to a more slower type. I seriously don't know why I'm wasting my time with you, your knowledge regarding field craft comes from books. Ill just bow to your superior knowledge on the matter...... Greyhounds are the dogs bollocks

 

What are.you on about? The majority of greyhounds in this country are used for racing but this isn't about racing dogs.

You're such a fan of quoting me, show me where I said greyhounds had great feet. They haven't got feet that get smashed up everytime they're out, anymore than any other dog. Some have good feet some have bad feet. You've not answered my questions with regard to the other breeds I mentioned because you do t know the answers. Long toes don't make a dog slower or more prone to injury.

A faster dog is more likely to hit stuff than a slower dog? Are you seriously offering that up as a fact? Lack of real world experience is showing through here.

are you seriously arguing that fact? a fast dog is always going to be more prone to hitting stuff that a slower dog due to momentum etc., didn't you ever do physics at school pal?

 

An ill balanced dog will hit more stuff than a fast one. Certain breeds of dog are more inclined to hit stuff due to their conformation rather than their speed. Some slow dogs hit more stuff than faster dogs due to their mentality.

and will then get back up and carry on.

 

I kind of get the feeling you're one of those people that argues for the sake of arguing tbh!

 

What????? What if it hits a fence post or a 5 bar gate or a piece of machinery ? It's just gonna jump up and carry on? Get a grip!! Regardless of the speed some things stop a dog in it's tracks. A 90lb Grey isn't a fragile animal. You're arguing and coming out with ridiculous statements.

didn't say it was fragile, but if anything hits a gate at 45 mph it's going to be a bit broken, fragile or not!

[kranky 507]

It's still not going to replace a purpose bred lurcher though. I know you get exceptions in everything but seriously? Those long toes for a start.....don't know anyone who wants their pup to take the greyhounds side regarding feet.

they just aint got it for long hard work they are sprint dogs they burn out to quick with lactic acid build up . bottom linr a good lurcher is allways better

 

Whilst they ain't got the wind of a saluki or deerhound they ain't finished after a short sprint and cramped up.

ffs exactly they are sprint dogs fast twitch muscles if i was you id get a hamster you know fanny f..k about dogs

 

How many times have you been to Clonmel or the Altcar and seen them run? Fanny f..k all? You've seen nothing but are an expert!!!

your oviously mentally chalanged ill leave it with you before you start crying

 

Never then!!!! Hahahahaha!!! What a mug!!

[Mixed Bag 603]

if its reared properly the same way you rear a lurcher pup and trained to jump stuff from an early age theres no reason why it should be hitting off gates etc but i havent read all 6 pages it gets a bit dull trawling through the insults to find a sensible post like the one sandymere did