Stopping a dog attack

[Born Hunter 17,624]

Sound advice Bosun. A man worth listening to. I've never seen any dreamt up bollocks come from your posts.

Edited September 4, 2012 by Born Hunter

[Mickey Finn 2,710]

I'm with Gnash, in that some of the points made and theoretical actions taken are nuts, not only putting youselves at harm but causing further and far worse injuries to the animals too!

 

His advice is spot on, Bird and others said it the same too. As far as I see it, this thred should offer the right advice to those who could have a problem between their own dogs or a friends dogs when in the field or motor. Not some daft senario where chavvey cnuts mutts are ruling the streets. Those situations are to be avioded at any cost, for us folk with working dogs!

It's firstly all about control, being sensible enough to know what might be imminent and act accordingly. Secondly, diving right in to two mutts on their back legs screeming (the dogs) with both hands is always asking for trouble, its the first trows of battle, a bit of bitch slapping, handbags, any object near a mouth is going to get it, including a not so fast hand..!

At that point for me its a shout down, with a foot push or two, it can do the trick to sensible dogs and thats all thats required. You should be the dominant force, you should be the force to be reconed with. Why risk really damaging your dogs with punches and kicks, you will do far more damage than they ever will at that stage. Most on here constantly bang on about 'pre-ban' bigger quarry, well at this stage its only gonna be some small slashes an nips around the head, so big deal..!!

If they ain't gonna part at that stage they are gonna grip and its at that stage I go in and use the back leg locking and twist collar choking Gnash uses it really does work.

It is about keeping a level head. Like before, there may be damage, harder biting damage but it is usually around the head area and no big deal to sort BUT that is the time to act.

One other thing at this stage, when you choke, push toward the other dog, don't, as its more natural, pull hard away, because if your not choking hard enough and the grip is still there your going to cause more damage again. You pull away only when the dog draws for breath.

 

Now, in a three or more way scrap, things can get nasty quickly. It should always be the third dog that joggs in that ya want to watch for, because whilst the two others are pre-occupied with each others heads, the third has an open invite to chomp away where ever and bites to legs and worse still stomaches can be very bad. Control the third dog first, get him from doing more serious damage. When he's done take the above advice on the first two.

 

Oh yer, one more thing, i've never carried a break stick, never will, the only use for 'em in field working dogs is to put through a well made collar for a better twist and any stick can do just that. Explaine why you have a break stick in your pocket next time your stopped by police when out rabbiting...!?

Break sticks are only good for certain types of dogs. Staffy's over there. As for the police, what business is it of theirs?

 

ATB

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Well said gnash , I said earlier if they can't be controlled keep them on a lead. But I'll go with your idea. Keep them all on a bloody lead. Oh and clean up after your dogs is another. I'd fine them 100 quid for that. Disgusting and utterly f*****g selfish!

what about the lazy good for nothings who put it in a black plastic bag then adorn tree branches. With it. Horrible lazy foookers.

[gnasher16 29,624]

I'm with Gnash, in that some of the points made and theoretical actions taken are nuts, not only putting youselves at harm but causing further and far worse injuries to the animals too!

 

His advice is spot on, Bird and others said it the same too. As far as I see it, this thred should offer the right advice to those who could have a problem between their own dogs or a friends dogs when in the field or motor. Not some daft senario where chavvey cnuts mutts are ruling the streets. Those situations are to be avioded at any cost, for us folk with working dogs!

It's firstly all about control, being sensible enough to know what might be imminent and act accordingly. Secondly, diving right in to two mutts on their back legs screeming (the dogs) with both hands is always asking for trouble, its the first trows of battle, a bit of bitch slapping, handbags, any object near a mouth is going to get it, including a not so fast hand..!

At that point for me its a shout down, with a foot push or two, it can do the trick to sensible dogs and thats all thats required. You should be the dominant force, you should be the force to be reconed with. Why risk really damaging your dogs with punches and kicks, you will do far more damage than they ever will at that stage. Most on here constantly bang on about 'pre-ban' bigger quarry, well at this stage its only gonna be some small slashes an nips around the head, so big deal..!!

If they ain't gonna part at that stage they are gonna grip and its at that stage I go in and use the back leg locking and twist collar choking Gnash uses it really does work.

It is about keeping a level head. Like before, there may be damage, harder biting damage but it is usually around the head area and no big deal to sort BUT that is the time to act.

One other thing at this stage, when you choke, push toward the other dog, don't, as its more natural, pull hard away, because if your not choking hard enough and the grip is still there your going to cause more damage again. You pull away only when the dog draws for breath.

 

Now, in a three or more way scrap, things can get nasty quickly. It should always be the third dog that joggs in that ya want to watch for, because whilst the two others are pre-occupied with each others heads, the third has an open invite to chomp away where ever and bites to legs and worse still stomaches can be very bad. Control the third dog first, get him from doing more serious damage. When he's done take the above advice on the first two.

 

Oh yer, one more thing, i've never carried a break stick, never will, the only use for 'em in field working dogs is to put through a well made collar for a better twist and any stick can do just that. Explaine why you have a break stick in your pocket next time your stopped by police when out rabbiting...!?

 

Very intelligent and sensible post from Bosun here......wouldnt hurt to " pin this " for reference purposes ( i think thats what they call it anyway )

Its a great point about the time factor and not panicking........ its simply not worth trying to get your hands in there while the furs flying....let them swap it out until they get in holds then jump into action.............ive been around some fast powerful dogs who could certainly close their mouth but ive never seen a dog get badly hurt in the initial 30 seconds of madness......once their in holds its far easier and safer all around to get them apart.

Edited September 4, 2012 by gnasher16

[gonetoearth 5,144]

at a hunt terrier do last year two terriers locked on to each others faces this posh bird comes over while two lads are chocking them off she says

stick your finger up its arse it will let go quick as a flash me mate turn to me and says want a fight posh bird goes :icon_redface: well she says

thats what my grandfather did :laugh:

Edited September 4, 2012 by gonetoearth

[Lab 10,979]

Well said gnash , I said earlier if they can't be controlled keep them on a lead. But I'll go with your idea. Keep them all on a bloody lead. Oh and clean up after your dogs is another. I'd fine them 100 quid for that. Disgusting and utterly f*****g selfish!

Have you been picking up your dog shit since you've had dogs mate or have you started doing when the pc brigade made out you were worse than a f*****g murderer??. I'm f****d if im walking 4 dogs and picking up there shite!!! I'd need a f*****g wheelbarrow with me!!! Anyway thats the reason i dont walk my dogs in parks where children play..........if anyone asked me to pick up my dogs shit in a forestry or waste bit ground they'd be politely told to "f**k off"........

[stewie 3,387]

Well said gnash , I said earlier if they can't be controlled keep them on a lead. But I'll go with your idea. Keep them all on a bloody lead. Oh and clean up after your dogs is another. I'd fine them 100 quid for that. Disgusting and utterly f*****g selfish!

Have you been picking up your dog shit since you've had dogs mate or have you started doing when the pc brigade made out you were worse than a f*****g murderer??. I'm f****d if im walking 4 dogs and picking up there shite!!! I'd need a f*****g wheelbarrow with me!!! Anyway thats the reason i dont walk my dogs in parks where children play..........if anyone asked me to pick up my dogs shit in a forestry or waste bit ground they'd be politely told to "f**k off"........

:hmm:

[Lab 10,979]

Well said gnash , I said earlier if they can't be controlled keep them on a lead. But I'll go with your idea. Keep them all on a bloody lead. Oh and clean up after your dogs is another. I'd fine them 100 quid for that. Disgusting and utterly f*****g selfish!

Have you been picking up your dog shit since you've had dogs mate or have you started doing when the pc brigade made out you were worse than a f*****g murderer??. I'm f****d if im walking 4 dogs and picking up there shite!!! I'd need a f*****g wheelbarrow with me!!! Anyway thats the reason i dont walk my dogs in parks where children play..........if anyone asked me to pick up my dogs shit in a forestry or waste bit ground they'd be politely told to "f**k off"........

:hmm:

I said.....'politely'.......

[stewie 3,387]

Well said gnash , I said earlier if they can't be controlled keep them on a lead. But I'll go with your idea. Keep them all on a bloody lead. Oh and clean up after your dogs is another. I'd fine them 100 quid for that. Disgusting and utterly f*****g selfish!

Have you been picking up your dog shit since you've had dogs mate or have you started doing when the pc brigade made out you were worse than a f*****g murderer??. I'm f****d if im walking 4 dogs and picking up there shite!!! I'd need a f*****g wheelbarrow with me!!! Anyway thats the reason i dont walk my dogs in parks where children play..........if anyone asked me to pick up my dogs shit in a forestry or waste bit ground they'd be politely told to "f**k off"........

:hmm:

I said.....'politely'.......

:laugh:

[kevin from bristol 95]

let em fight one will lose haha