what type of cross to run on grouse moors

[Giro 2,648]

Different days, they would have your van and dog away now..

[poacher3161 1,766]

Different days, they would have your van and dog away now..

True thats the reason i wont go up on the moors near me any more just glad ive got loads of pics and memories of the past.

[BLACKWATER... 157]

not talking just about hares smart dog im talking about dogs who work on the hill day in day out keepers dogs ,not one day wonders,blue hares we took three dogs up one day got 26 never been back and thats years ago , but good fun for the pups ,and nice scenary ,a dog that works the moord doesnt just have to cacth a shitty blue hare hehas to work with teriers trap lines thats adog that works the moor ,not just cacthing a daft blue hare THE HEAdING SAYS WHATS THE BEST DOGS FOR WORKING A GROUSE MOOR , not some 22 inch whippet thing thats for sure ,freinds run dogs and are full time grouse keepers they no what works for day in day out graft

Edited June 25, 2012 by BLACKWATER...

[border lad 1,047]

A GOOD AND INTERESTING topic, some nice footage, when I kept the Deerhound cross early 70s, we used to go up on the moor,

we used it as a training exercise,for the the young saplings, they would make easy catches along the sheep tracks, in my opinion,

the Deerhound or cross was made for the moor, strong powerfull dogs/bitches, with a great layed back temperament,nothing phased them

[2.8 guy 403]

We run this dog up on a grouse moor, beddy greyhound airdale whippet, he has great feet and lots of gas in his tank, he is redline airdale and hart break beddy lines, ive noticed in the pics theres alot more white ground and burnt heather in scotland than the moors i run lower down freddie aka the black death

[bigdaz 688]

not talking just about hares smart dog im talking about dogs who work on the hill day in day out keepers dogs ,not one day wonders,blue hares we took three dogs up one day got 26 never been back and thats years ago , but good fun for the pups ,and nice scenary ,a dog that works the moord doesnt just have to cacth a shitty blue hare hehas to work with teriers trap lines thats adog that works the moor ,not just cacthing a daft blue hare THE HEAdING SAYS WHATS THE BEST DOGS FOR WORKING A GROUSE MOOR , not some 22 inch whippet thing thats for sure ,freinds run dogs and are full time grouse keepers they no what works for day in day out graft

 

Agree, there's a massive difference between a dog working a moor hunting up finding and catching as opposed to running sighted game.

On the subject of blue hares/ whiteys, call them what you will ( around me they were called plastic hares) they were ideal for bringing a young dog on, however nine times out of ten they were no match for an older experienced dog.

[poacher3161 1,766]

not talking just about hares smart dog im talking about dogs who work on the hill day in day out keepers dogs ,not one day wonders,blue hares we took three dogs up one day got 26 never been back and thats years ago , but good fun for the pups ,and nice scenary ,a dog that works the moord doesnt just have to cacth a shitty blue hare hehas to work with teriers trap lines thats adog that works the moor ,not just cacthing a daft blue hare THE HEAdING SAYS WHATS THE BEST DOGS FOR WORKING A GROUSE MOOR , not some 22 inch whippet thing thats for sure ,freinds run dogs and are full time grouse keepers they no what works for day in day out graft

 

Agree, there's a massive difference between a dog working a moor hunting up finding and catching as opposed to running sighted game.

On the subject of blue hares/ whiteys, call them what you will ( around me they were called plastic hares) they were ideal for bringing a young dog on, however nine times out of ten they were no match for an older experienced dog.

Everybody knows who has run them knows their not in the same leuge as a brown hare .I used to get £1.50 a peice back then for them so wasent realy botherd how easey they were though i did find them a bit harder to catch than rabbits on moorland

[bigdaz 688]

not talking just about hares smart dog im talking about dogs who work on the hill day in day out keepers dogs ,not one day wonders,blue hares we took three dogs up one day got 26 never been back and thats years ago , but good fun for the pups ,and nice scenary ,a dog that works the moord doesnt just have to cacth a shitty blue hare hehas to work with teriers trap lines thats adog that works the moor ,not just cacthing a daft blue hare THE HEAdING SAYS WHATS THE BEST DOGS FOR WORKING A GROUSE MOOR , not some 22 inch whippet thing thats for sure ,freinds run dogs and are full time grouse keepers they no what works for day in day out graft

 

Agree, there's a massive difference between a dog working a moor hunting up finding and catching as opposed to running sighted game.

On the subject of blue hares/ whiteys, call them what you will ( around me they were called plastic hares) they were ideal for bringing a young dog on, however nine times out of ten they were no match for an older experienced dog.

Everybody knows who has run them knows their not in the same leuge as a brown hare .I used to get £1.50 a peice back then for them so wasent realy botherd how easey they were though i did find them a bit harder to catch than rabbits on moorland

 

I agree with that mate, but not everyone has had an opportunity to run them so I thought I'd mention it.

I actually used to feel a bit guilty when killing them in numbers, although looking back £1.50 a scalp would probably helped ease my guilt.

[minshaw man 111]

my pal has a 3/4 greyhound 1/4 saluki dog hammers on most ground 29" tts

a rekon out with a loads of greyhound or saluki would be 2 racy at top end for moor [bANNED TEXT] you need is sumthing that is plody but can up and down the gears quick a racy dog will kill its self

[SMART DOG 340]

not talking just about hares smart dog im talking about dogs who work on the hill day in day out keepers dogs ,not one day wonders,blue hares we took three dogs up one day got 26 never been back and thats years ago , but good fun for the pups ,and nice scenary ,a dog that works the moord doesnt just have to cacth a shitty blue hare hehas to work with teriers trap lines thats adog that works the moor ,not just cacthing a daft blue hare THE HEAdING SAYS WHATS THE BEST DOGS FOR WORKING A GROUSE MOOR , not some 22 inch whippet thing thats for sure ,freinds run dogs and are full time grouse keepers they no what works for day in day out graft

whin you talk some bollocks a good dog on the moors don't have to do much running if its got a good nose it gonna do very well regardless the size I could walk the moors I go on with my old dog and bring off devastating numbers of rabbits and Brown hill hares and and not many got 10 yards from there seat and he wasn't fast just a great nose and a good knack of working the moors I have seen lots of dogs work these moors and there ain't been any what could do what that little dog did

[Giro 2,648]

Yeah agree Smart dog, my bitch and a pals dog caught 14 rabbits off a moor daytime only 3 actually got up and ran..

 

They just hit them on the seat..

 

As for blue hares I never ran one, shame really would of been an good experiance..

[Romany 1,065]

Must admit out of the best half a dozen dogs Ive seen on the moors, 4 of them were between 22 and 24 inches

[bigdaz 688]

not talking just about hares smart dog im talking about dogs who work on the hill day in day out keepers dogs ,not one day wonders,blue hares we took three dogs up one day got 26 never been back and thats years ago , but good fun for the pups ,and nice scenary ,a dog that works the moord doesnt just have to cacth a shitty blue hare hehas to work with teriers trap lines thats adog that works the moor ,not just cacthing a daft blue hare THE HEAdING SAYS WHATS THE BEST DOGS FOR WORKING A GROUSE MOOR , not some 22 inch whippet thing thats for sure ,freinds run dogs and are full time grouse keepers they no what works for day in day out graft

whin you talk some bollocks a good dog on the moors don't have to do much running if its got a good nose it gonna do very well regardless the size I could walk the moors I go on with my old dog and bring off devastating numbers of rabbits and Brown hill hares and and not many got 10 yards from there seat and he wasn't fast just a great nose and a good knack of working the moors I have seen lots of dogs work these moors and there ain't been any what could do what that little dog did

 

Agree with that also, I've had respectable bags of rabbits, twenty and above and little running involved with the majority lifted out the seat or as near as dammit to it.

[alimac 882]

Most hill keepers dogs just don't see enough to be tested properly IMO,

[BLACKWATER... 157]

try your daft wee dogs waiting five hours on a fox pre ban or hunting foxes out day in day out chaseing roe thats hundred or more yardsd away pre ban , we have the wrong end of the stick the guy asked whats the best dog for moors , im not talking a rabbit dog blue hares im talking pre ban keepers dog, fox etc odd daY at BLUEYS,all the grouse keepers i know have pretty powerful dogs once the weathers shitty ,two there out with terriers alot ,dont no any keeprs localy who have small dogs for covering great expanses of moor , one had big strong pionter crosses deerhound crosses wheaton saluki crosses , dogs that can cover the heather not run through it and dogs that can take the big hills on a strong fox etc pre ban , all depends what yo want out a dog and if your keepering or just out for a day ,most half decent dogs would cacth on the moors had colie types saluk types they destroyed game easy ,but if the moors was my place to hunt get a dog with a good jacket and a bit of leg room for the heather

Edited June 26, 2012 by BLACKWATER...