what type of cross to run on grouse moors

[Giro 2,648]

Romany did they film any of these Deerhound comps??

 

Of was that before Camacorder Days ??

[Romany 1,065]

Romany did they film any of these Deerhound comps??

 

Of was that before Camacorder Days ??

 

Yeah there is some footage knocking about, I took a massive video camera once, the ones that a VHS tape goes straight into, felt like throwing the f*****g thing away at one point, them moors go on "ad infinium"

[SMART DOG 340]

got a few mates on grouse moors there running a pup of mines 26 inch saluki lurchr and a wheaton lurcher cross saluk lurcher they do fine ,you want a dog up on his toes 26 good size ,nothing to small

stop talking garbage the best dog I have seen on the moors was 22tts why would you need a big dog

 

The best dog Ive seen on blue hares was 23 and a half inches

I will pop some pics up later

[Giro 2,648]

Good stuff lol...

[alimac 882]

Romany did you go out with L or R up at tilleypronie when you were up there? Or you going back a fair while when old Sandy was there..

Edited June 24, 2012 by alimac

[Romany 1,065]

Romany did you go out with L or R up at tilleypronie when you were up there? Or you going back a fair while when old Sandy was there..

 

Hi matie, it was Sandy, great bloke

[chartpolski 28,667]

did you give the blues alot more slip than the browns ?

or was the private ones a culling spree or private wager /banta to have a good day with dogs aswell

as a little gamble between your mates ??????

 

Private events we did the organised coursing bit, then, went for numbers, one dog one hare a deerhound bitch I had Becky got 14 one day, thats the best Ive done with a deerhound

 

On organised coursing events, a professional/semi professional slipper was always used, and judges too.

Alan Wilkinson was probably the best Ive seen as a slipper,

A slippers job on blue hares, on heather is one hell of a job, getting the dogs both sighted, two pretty large dogs pulling you over heather it is difficult, on one even on the borders the judge asked for longer slips three times till the hares were quite a long way off as the dogs were killing so well..on paper its supposed to be around -100 yards on heather, as we all know, coursing is not to kill..on private events weve let one dog loose and let them work the hares up and chase..

Ive had a go slipping on heather, never asked for another go, ha, ha...picking up is bad enough..

 

Not saying deerhounds are the best for this terrain, but, their stride and build certainly do help, and I enjoyed my times working them there, the picture above of two lurchers, now thats the stamp of lurchers we took up mostly, and they all did the buisiness

 

Becky is the grand dam to my 1st cross, I'll be giving her a few runs up around the Borders this season, wether she could do 14 like her grandma, I wouldn't know, but she'll get her chance ! LOL ! I've ran the Durham and Northumberland grouse moors in the past, with all sizes of dogs and with varying results, but it IS hard work, especialy when the weather closes in !

 

Cheers.

[my hounds 316]

Romany did they film any of these Deerhound comps??

 

Of was that before Camacorder Days ??

 

Yeah there is some footage knocking about, I took a massive video camera once, the ones that a VHS tape goes straight into, felt like throwing the f*****g thing away at one point, them moors go on "ad infinium"

It would be great if the footage could be transferred to dvd i for one would certainly buy a copy,cheers.

[gibbo1973 187]

good numbers that romany ,i wish i could have witnessed such sightings on moor thru daytime and met up with the regulars

i may have purchased a deerhound or deerhound X well before this one i have ,roll on stubble time (saying that last year the farmers turned the stubbles over so fast last year around here)

[Romany 1,065]

did you give the blues alot more slip than the browns ?

or was the private ones a culling spree or private wager /banta to have a good day with dogs aswell

as a little gamble between your mates ??????

 

Private events we did the organised coursing bit, then, went for numbers, one dog one hare a deerhound bitch I had Becky got 14 one day, thats the best Ive done with a deerhound

 

On organised coursing events, a professional/semi professional slipper was always used, and judges too.

Alan Wilkinson was probably the best Ive seen as a slipper,

A slippers job on blue hares, on heather is one hell of a job, getting the dogs both sighted, two pretty large dogs pulling you over heather it is difficult, on one even on the borders the judge asked for longer slips three times till the hares were quite a long way off as the dogs were killing so well..on paper its supposed to be around -100 yards on heather, as we all know, coursing is not to kill..on private events weve let one dog loose and let them work the hares up and chase..

Ive had a go slipping on heather, never asked for another go, ha, ha...picking up is bad enough..

 

Not saying deerhounds are the best for this terrain, but, their stride and build certainly do help, and I enjoyed my times working them there, the picture above of two lurchers, now thats the stamp of lurchers we took up mostly, and they all did the buisiness

 

Becky is the grand dam to my 1st cross, I'll be giving her a few runs up around the Borders this season, wether she could do 14 like her grandma, I wouldn't know, but she'll get her chance ! LOL ! I've ran the Durham and Northumberland grouse moors in the past, with all sizes of dogs and with varying results, but it IS hard work, especialy when the weather closes in !

 

Cheers.

 

The only thing wrong with the borders moors is the hidden drainage ditches that are all over the place, you cant see some of them till you have fallen in one, saw a deehound break a leg in one of these, and a lurcher kll its self in the same ditches..

A couple of the hares in Beckys 14 were short runs where she had put them up herself, she had a great nose..

Your totaly right about the weather too Charti, keepers were always watching for signs of weather breaking, and would get us off the moors at the slightest sniff of it changing for the worst

Good luck with your dog..

 

I know its not the borders, but this picture shows Alan Wilkinson slipper, and for anyone into hawking and raptors, the judge on horseback is Roger Upton,

 

Edited June 24, 2012 by Romany

[Country Joe 1,411]

Many years ago i was invited out on a Grouse moor in winter with the Buccleuch Keepers, my dog at the time was a Whippet X Greyhound, first time id run Blue Hares, he caught five that day, good sport, but a lot easier than the old Brown.

He was 23 inches.

[alimac 882]

Romany I keepered the estate next door for 9 years, left the same year sandy retired.. He could fair walk up morven in them old boots of his, lol..

[Romany 1,065]

Romany I keepered the estate next door for 9 years, left the same year sandy retired.. He could fair walk up morven in them old boots of his, lol..

 

Got some pictures with him on somewhere, will hunt them out, great ground to run on, lovely area..I think the deerhound club secured the land through Anastasia Noble (Ardkinglas) and a guy called Dr Shamus Caine..think I have some footage with him on too..do you not keeper now?

[bigdaz 688]

Romany I keepered the estate next door for 9 years, left the same year sandy retired.. He could fair walk up morven in them old boots of his, lol..

 

Got some pictures with him on somewhere, will hunt them out, great ground to run on, lovely area..I think the deerhound club secured the land through Anastasia Noble (Ardkinglas) and a guy called Dr Shamus Caine..think I have some footage with him on too..do you not keeper now?

 

My mate attended a coursing meet years ago ( can't recall where) and Anastasia Noble was there, might be wrong butI think he said she was around the eighty mark and was still plodding along and actually landed on her arse a couple of times, a hardy old bird.

[chartpolski 28,667]

Ms. Noble evidently had the future of the Deerhound close to her heart ! She added a Greyhound into her Ardkinglas line, as she saw that the breed was getting to "cloddy", and worried about the blurring of the Deerhound and the Irish Wolfhound. Unfourtunately, she was right, and a lot of Deerhound now are bred to the upper height and wheight limits, and are far from ideal for the job they were origionaly bred for.

 

Cheers.