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Just now, mC HULL said:

you should be enjoying it joe something to laugh at i love it when i hear half the shit on here from double up merchants i sit laughing 

or am i hitting a nerve ? 

 

your not one a them runs a bull x with a whippet or fast lurcher are you few a them on here something to catch up and turn it ? 

Your to stupid to realize people are laughing at you not with you. I am just about convinced you have learning difficulties.  

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A brother sister mating from which a bitch was again put back to the sire produced this dog. Like the rest of the litter he is bursting with health and vitality and hes slightly bigger than both of hi

mC you are totally wrong about a terrier not being a performance athlete, a terrier gone to ground working Fox and Badger (historically) pushes its body through the pain barrier more than any other ca

my old bitch bred like that she thrived on lots of stick n the stronger the hares the better for her. 

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6 hours ago, riohog said:
 
 
  • From Persian تازی (tâzi, “dog breed”

Don't want to be getting caught up in names/translation, its unreliable, in spain a greyhound is a Galgo but not the same as a galgo, in north Africa a Sloughi is often referred to as a saluki.  Tazi are a distinct breed and certainly not Salukis, they come from thousands of miles apart. 

 

 

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People see a “saluki type” and think it’s a Saluki but the sighthounds are one of the most ancient breeds and they have been distinct species across thousand of miles for thousands of years. So there is a sighthound type of which the salukis is an example rather than all sighthounds being types of saluki. We are used to the English greyhound and equate them to what a sighthound should look like whereas in truth it’s the greyhound that is the odd one out. Salukis and Tazy were separate species before the Greyhound existed and as such the greyhound is more closely related to a collie than a Saluki is to a Tazy. There may have been a historical shared ancestor to the ancient sight hounds but if so it was so long ago it would have little impact on things like temperament today but what they do have is convergent evolution. We can see similar in the mastiff type, a dog that has evolved in different countries from different base stock to perform a similar function evolve to have a similar form ie English, Spanish and Italian mastiff along with the Tosa and Doge de Bordeaux etc. So Sloughi and Tazi have been evolved to hunt larger game, especially that which bites back, whilst Salukis and Galgos for hare or small ungulates, they have similar forms as they perform similar tasks generally with variations such a coat length that suits the local habitat but basically all are sighthounds. But look a little closer and see the differences and similarities that come with convergent evolution, as an example, the Kanni in southern India resembles a Sloughi from north Africa, not because they are genetically related, thousands of miles between them, but rather that they fulfil similar roles so have evolved similar forms based on the basic sighthound blueprint. So rather than thinking all ancient sighthounds are salukis perhaps see salukis as just one tiny type of the many ancient sighthounds that that come in many, many varieties.

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1 minute ago, sandymere said:

Don't want to be getting caught up in names/translation, its unreliable, in spain a greyhound is a Galgo but not the same as a galgo, in north Africa a Sloughi is often referred to as a saluki.  Tazi are a distinct breed and certainly not Salukis, they come from thousands of miles apart. 

 

 

you are wrong mate and think that salukis only come from the gulf region , remember the silk road came all the way from china across many countries  ,so salukis didnt just grow out of the arabian desert   ;) dont get blinkered  

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and the silk road stretched thousands of miles and the saluki is found up and down it 

 

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16 minutes ago, sandymere said:

People see a “saluki type” and think it’s a Saluki but the sighthounds are one of the most ancient breeds and they have been distinct species across thousand of miles for thousands of years. So there is a sighthound type of which the salukis is an example rather than all sighthounds being types of saluki. We are used to the English greyhound and equate them to what a sighthound should look like whereas in truth it’s the greyhound that is the odd one out. Salukis and Tazy were separate species before the Greyhound existed and as such the greyhound is more closely related to a collie than a Saluki is to a Tazy. There may have been a historical shared ancestor to the ancient sight hounds but if so it was so long ago it would have little impact on things like temperament today but what they do have is convergent evolution. We can see similar in the mastiff type, a dog that has evolved in different countries from different base stock to perform a similar function evolve to have a similar form ie English, Spanish and Italian mastiff along with the Tosa and Doge de Bordeaux etc. So Sloughi and Tazi have been evolved to hunt larger game, especially that which bites back, whilst Salukis and Galgos for hare or small ungulates, they have similar forms as they perform similar tasks generally with variations such a coat length that suits the local habitat but basically all are sighthounds. But look a little closer and see the differences and similarities that come with convergent evolution, as an example, the Kanni in southern India resembles a Sloughi from north Africa, not because they are genetically related, thousands of miles between them, but rather that they fulfil similar roles so have evolved similar forms based on the basic sighthound blueprint. So rather than thinking all ancient sighthounds are salukis perhaps see salukis as just one tiny type of the many ancient sighthounds that that come in many, many varieties.

Selective breeding is not evoloution?

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What a ? you really are showing yourself up to be MC... Have you ever hunted anywhere outside your own county... Doesn't sound like it to me... When reality is your dogs are one trick ponies who definitely don't like anything that kicks or bites back..a bit like there fat owner... hanging of his daddy's coat tails.

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