Any of you know how to train guard dogs ?

[fazza123 513]

got to laugh at the idea of getting a mali for a yard dog after 3 days you'll wish some one would steal him cause your house will look like it's been burgled every day :laugh:

 

Dan have you any experience on Malis? im very interested in the breed as a whole !

Cheers

[downsouth 6,818]

A guard dog shouldnt need training.A protection/attack dog needs careful training but a guard dog should naturaly guard its teritory

Sounds like a recipe for disaster, that one

 

Im no expert but i get what the fellas saying.............surely any dog with a job to do needs to have a natural urge to do that job..............id imagine even if left untrained any guard dog should have a natural instinct to guard.

Still needs to have the basic training. Maybe being able to stop it killing your mate thats popped round for a coffee for a start!!

Of coarse it needs to know to behave itself when somebody is invited onto your property but decent socialisation should be enough if the dog has a stable temperement but what i meant was any decent guardian breed shouldnt need training to guard your property.

[Lab 10,979]

A guard dog shouldnt need training.A protection/attack dog needs careful training but a guard dog should naturaly guard its teritory

Sounds like a recipe for disaster, that one

 

Im no expert but i get what the fellas saying.............surely any dog with a job to do needs to have a natural urge to do that job..............id imagine even if left untrained any guard dog should have a natural instinct to guard.

Still needs to have the basic training. Maybe being able to stop it killing your mate thats popped round for a coffee for a start!!

Of coarse it needs to know to behave itself when somebody is invited onto your property but decent socialisation should be enough if the dog has a stable temperement but what i meant was any decent guardian breed shouldnt need training to guard your property.

.....i agree with you on that, it should definately have those basic guarding attributes. I think sometimes, and its getting more like alot of the time idiots are getting hold of these powerful dogs thinking they will naturally turn out to be pets one minute and defense animals the next......usually resulting in children taking the brunt of it by losing half a face.....

[downsouth 6,818]

A guard dog shouldnt need training.A protection/attack dog needs careful training but a guard dog should naturaly guard its teritory

Sounds like a recipe for disaster, that one

 

Im no expert but i get what the fellas saying.............surely any dog with a job to do needs to have a natural urge to do that job..............id imagine even if left untrained any guard dog should have a natural instinct to guard.

Still needs to have the basic training. Maybe being able to stop it killing your mate thats popped round for a coffee for a start!!

Of coarse it needs to know to behave itself when somebody is invited onto your property but decent socialisation should be enough if the dog has a stable temperement but what i meant was any decent guardian breed shouldnt need training to guard your property.

.....i agree with you on that, it should definately have those basic guarding attributes. I think sometimes, and its getting more like alot of the time idiots are getting hold of these powerful dogs thinking they will naturally turn out to be pets one minute and defense animals the next......usually resulting in children taking the brunt of it by losing half a face.....

You hit the nail on the head there Lab.Idiots getting hold of guardion breeds and thinking they need to make a dog nasty for it to be a decent guard dog.Ithink another problem is divs breeding litters without temperement testing parents and pups and churning out unsocialised pups to anyone who turns up with cash in their pocket without vetting the new owners to make sure they know what they are doing with these POTENTIALLY dangerous breeds.

[kenny14 656]

A guard dog shouldnt need training.A protection/attack dog needs careful training but a guard dog should naturaly guard its teritory

Sounds like a recipe for disaster, that one

 

Im no expert but i get what the fellas saying.............surely any dog with a job to do needs to have a natural urge to do that job..............id imagine even if left untrained any guard dog should have a natural instinct to guard.

Still needs to have the basic training. Maybe being able to stop it killing your mate thats popped round for a coffee for a start!!

Or the paper boy, milkman, postman, your kids..... or you!

 

I understand what gnasher's saying, but I really feel that any Dog needs at least some basic training, and that it's an absolute must that it knows that it's pack leader is it's owner.

I've little experience of guard dogs, but surely a large aggressive breed of Dog with absolutely no training will probably quickly revert to being essentially a wild and therefore very dangerous animal.

 

edited to say - I wrote the above before fully reading the rest of the posts . I think everyone's pretty much agreed on what's required of a guard Dog

Edited November 4, 2011 by kenny14

[danw 1,748]

got to laugh at the idea of getting a mali for a yard dog after 3 days you'll wish some one would steal him cause your house will look like it's been burgled every day :laugh:

 

Dan have you any experience on Malis? im very interested in the breed as a whole !

Cheers

 

 

 

truthfully the experience I have with mals is limited to time spent with the security handlers here and time spent with the man who is to train mine I have done a small amount of decoy work for him with a mali but am learning the ropes so to speak.

the malis I have seen have been some of the most intense dogs and are highly driven they dont' seem to settle and are forever alert and on the go I could well believe that without the correct training and lots of input and stimulation from the handler then you would end up with a liabilty. As for ownership I pick up my pup in 3 weeks

 

simoman has years of experience and I am sure he can add far more and may well disagree with what I think

[Guest vin]

friggin hell vin,all this song and dance, theres a good few hundred of us here that will lie and wait in your garden!! All we want is a bacon butty and all your permission

 

not a bad idea that Fazza.. your all welcome anytime... im thinking of changing my quarry for a while anyway. LOL

[Lab 10,979]

A guard dog shouldnt need training.A protection/attack dog needs careful training but a guard dog should naturaly guard its teritory

Sounds like a recipe for disaster, that one

 

Im no expert but i get what the fellas saying.............surely any dog with a job to do needs to have a natural urge to do that job..............id imagine even if left untrained any guard dog should have a natural instinct to guard.

Still needs to have the basic training. Maybe being able to stop it killing your mate thats popped round for a coffee for a start!!

Of coarse it needs to know to behave itself when somebody is invited onto your property but decent socialisation should be enough if the dog has a stable temperement but what i meant was any decent guardian breed shouldnt need training to guard your property.

.....i agree with you on that, it should definately have those basic guarding attributes. I think sometimes, and its getting more like alot of the time idiots are getting hold of these powerful dogs thinking they will naturally turn out to be pets one minute and defense animals the next......usually resulting in children taking the brunt of it by losing half a face.....

you need a guard dog lab

Yes..........neighbour got broken into again on Monday night and nicked his trailer.... I would love a black GSD, the silent type that can have the full run off the place but bites the f*****g leg of any intruder... Only pitfall is i have know experience in training one and next door have there grandchildren often and if anything happened to one of them i couldn't live with myself. Just have to stick too the gun................

[Guest vin]

I did send the great Simoman a PM asking for a chat and maybe some advice about purchasing a trained dog.. Buy he never replied.

 

im just in the process of making my property suitable to accomadate a guard dog.. might even get 2.

[Simoman 110]

I did send the great Simoman a PM asking for a chat and maybe some advice about purchasing a trained dog.. Buy he never replied.

 

im just in the process of making my property suitable to accomadate a guard dog.. might even get 2.

 

 

You'll get a reply shortly, i have had 25 this week, so less of the piss take..............

[jigsaw 11,809]

heres mine.Hes just 8 months old now and is doing a good job allready,only last night he was barking with gusto at 3 in the morning,I jumped out of bed and opened the window and hit the lights,no one around.This was 3 in the morning and defo something spooked him.I spoke to him and he relaxed.This morning I went out the front and the skip bag we had was interfered with,old alloys for a bmw and bits of copper pipe gone.....at 3 .a.m. what is wrong with some people.Hes going to be a vigilant guard dog I think.

Edited November 10, 2011 by jigsaw

[trappa 517]

At our old house we used to have trouble with scrotes breaking in to our garage and shed. We ended up getting a BIG mastiff, he was as soft as sh*te but looked the part and sounded the part when he was barking at someone on the property. Anyway one night we ended up with two kids about 13 sat on our garage roof in tears refusing to come down as the dog was going mental at them walking round and round the garage. I had to help them down in the end!! Im not sure if they were robbers or just kids being kids but they kept a wide berth of our house after that.

[trappa 517]

As for training a dog to guard I dont have a clue but i used to work with a fella who lived in south africa in the 70's and 80's. He was a bit of a bullsh*tter but he reckoned what they used to do was get a dog as a pup, shove it in a sack and get a darkie to beat it with a stick then open the sack up. After a while the dog used to feckin detest darkies because of this and thats how he trained his.

Like i say he was full of sh*t most of the time so i dont know if thats right or wrong, but cant see how that will help you, unless you beat the pup and then open the sack wearing a gold chain, burberry cap, and a shell suit!

[j j m 6,480]

german shepard great dogs and u would have to be daft to mess with them

[Simoman 110]

As for training a dog to guard I dont have a clue but i used to work with a fella who lived in south africa in the 70's and 80's. He was a bit of a bullsh*tter but he reckoned what they used to do was get a dog as a pup, shove it in a sack and get a darkie to beat it with a stick then open the sack up. After a while the dog used to feckin detest darkies because of this and thats how he trained his.

Like i say he was full of sh*t most of the time so i dont know if thats right or wrong, but cant see how that will help you, unless you beat the pup and then open the sack wearing a gold chain, burberry cap, and a shell suit!

 

 

Your right trappa, hes full of shit........