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I think you mean 10 yards to 20 yards

thank,s camo , :thumbs: pesty :thumbs: and pete , got email ring u in week , :thumbs: . definitely be their ,

 

ill fetch my kit so all can see, archer b grade and the longbow, then i can decide weather to change :hmm:

 

 

thank,s derboy

i will bring a pvs14 for you to look thru its behind a ags4x12x44 cracking piture

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thank,s camo , :thumbs: pesty :thumbs: and pete , got email ring u in week , :thumbs: . definitely be their ,

 

ill fetch my kit so all can see, archer b grade and the longbow, then i can decide weather to change :hmm:

 

 

thank,s derboy

i will bring a pvs14 for you to look thru its behind a ags4x12x44 cracking piture

thank,s pete . look,s like i could be spending again . :cray:

 

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we were out last night with my knew toy pvs7s. we were using them for spotting . decided to see if it was possible to spot with them then offer them up to the scope to shoot not only was it possible but we got a very good piture without altering the binos . we used a cobra Merlin dsa to fasten the binos to the scope. my head was resting on the stock and i was looking thru the left eye peas this was comfortable i found out i could spot with these then fasten them to the gun in seconds and shoot we will be putting some footage on YouTube shortly

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thank,s camo , :thumbs: pesty :thumbs: and pete , got email ring u in week , :thumbs: . definitely be their ,

 

ill fetch my kit so all can see, archer b grade and the longbow, then i can decide weather to change :hmm:

 

 

thank,s derboy

in my opinion it dont matter [bANNED TEXT] your using on the back of the gun its the spotter that counts if you get a good one you can watch mister fox with no ir. so he dont know your there . then lift the gun and shoot i have used a sony camcorder like this with good results. weather you change are not is up to you . but i would defo invest in the best spotter i could afford. i have also used gen ones on the back of the gun because i know the shots safe.just my opinion but its worked for us for years plus i really like walking round spotting mister fox then sneaking up on him its the best part for me. but i do use a pvs14 most of the time as it carnt be beat but remember the envis uses the same tube as the pvs14 and its a bout a grand cheaper

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thank,s camo , :thumbs: pesty :thumbs: and pete , got email ring u in week , :thumbs: . definitely be their ,

 

ill fetch my kit so all can see, archer b grade and the longbow, then i can decide weather to change :hmm:

 

 

thank,s derboy

in my opinion it dont matter [bANNED TEXT] your using on the back of the gun its the spotter that counts if you get a good one you can watch mister fox with no ir. so he dont know your there . then lift the gun and shoot i have used a sony camcorder like this with good results. weather you change are not is up to you . but i would defo invest in the best spotter i could afford. i have also used gen ones on the back of the gun because i know the shots safe.just my opinion but its worked for us for years plus i really like walking round spotting mister fox then sneaking up on him its the best part for me. but i do use a pvs14 most of the time as it carnt be beat but remember the envis uses the same tube as the pvs14 and its a bout a grand cheaper

 

envis has a MX10160 and the pvs 14 has a MX11769 there is the NE6015 and NQ6015 models which use the MX10160 tubes but has no manual gain and i have only ever seen 1 in 30 years and i feel that was a DIY job

So to your.answer to the members on here that both units use the same tube :hmm: its not really the case as 99.9% of pvs 14's will have a manual gain switch and i've never seen that on the envis.

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