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Vasectamised Hob is the answer,, Keep yer money in your pocket,, rather than lining intervets,, or indeed the vets!! no wonder folk import there own vetrinary medicines!!!. Robbing feckers.

 

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It really depends on your ferrets diet as to whether additional vitamins/FFA's/minerals/amino acids etc are necessary. Excess fat soluble vits, such as A & D, contained in organs such as liver are not recommended, but excess water soluble vits are of no consequence. Amino acids such as Taurine, are vital to ferret health and are relatively low in dietary muscle tissue. Tbh, this goes on and on. I'm not sure what answer you expected, as many on this forum have little clue regarding the appropriate dietary requirements of ferrets.

 

I feed a mix of quality dried ferret food brands, a balanced mix of meat, organ & bone, plus various supplements.

 

It really depends on the vitamin supplement you are talking about, what it contains and whether it is necessary in relation to the diet your ferrets already recieve.

so are you suggesting a natural diet is not satisfying the appropriate dietary requirements of ferrets?

 

No. The statement you highlighted means that large quantities of muscle tissue would need to be consumed in order for a ferret to receive enough dietary Taurine.

Are you a vet by any chance? No offence but your posts seem very similar to what vets spout when they're trying to get you to buy some of their expensive products that are totally unnecessary if an animal is eating what it should be eating naturally. Why exactly do you give your ferrets supplements if you're giving them "a balanced mix of meat, organ and bone"?

 

I'm not sure what products you are talking about, so I can't really comment on that one.

 

I feed supplements, complete dried foods and meat etc, due to the fact that there will always be a pecking order in a business, this way I can help ensure each ferret gets what it needs.

 

Wouldnt it be simpler to feed in small groups, so you can ensure that they all get there share of meat & dry food, its what i have always done with kits when sibling rivalry kicks in, split in to 2 or 3's & feed that way , so no one ferret is being constantly kicked off the food & I also found it helped with food guarding

 

I see what you are saying, but no I wouldn't find it simpler. It isn't necessarily a case of food guarding, but preference. Some ferrets have a preference for the organs, some for the muscle tissue/bone and some for the dried food. So by adding the variety and some supplements, I find it easier to fulfill their requirements. My ferrets have access to food 24/7, and they vary in which food they prefer, I just choose to balance the scales.

 

Incidently, I noticed a thread on a different forum regarding the recent 'Jill Jab' situation, I (hopefully) recognised one of your profile pics and noticed you had informed people of the problem. The EU Legislation regarding hormone related drugs across the board will certainly make life difficult. I am hoping the VMD will shed light on this legislation next week and hopefully Intervet will review their stance on providing Delvosteron in more suitable quantities. Perhaps, as many on this forum turn to you for advice, you may be willing to rally up support, if necessary, to ensure once again the 'Jill Jab' is a monetary option for ferret owners?

 

Edited to say, the first paragraph relates to my ferrets, it is not a generalisation!!

 

 

I cant see how Intervet can really refuse to start packaging it in smaller doses, no vets going to buy in the stuff at 80 quid a bottle for it to be binned after taking 0.5 ml out of a 100ml bottle & having to charge the owner the best part of £80 & probably a consultation fee on top, its clearly going to be out of everyone's price range , & the likelihood of anyone taking 200 jills to be jabbed in one session is almost none existent :laugh:

 

 

It will mean there are even less options open to owners regarding jills & there seasons, I think the rescues will suffer the most as they normally jab if they take a jill on thats already in season & then spey at a later date, its going to be a huge drain on money for them as the vast majority don't or wont us a vasectomised hob, but if Intervet cant or wont package in smaller doeses then there going to have to think of something else for a quick fix

 

I'm not sure whether Intervet regards the quantity of use of Delvosterone in ferrets as a particularly significant factor in the grand scheme to things, as the EU legislation applies to hormone related drugs across the board. Supplying all the drugs that the legislation applies to in specific quantities for the various appropriate species would be a considerable task for any pharmacuetical company, particularly if they find no justification to do so, and it may also hold logistical problems to the veterinary practices they wholesale to. Intervet will continue to successfully sell hormone regulators, without modifying the quantity, as animals continue to require them and vets are continuing to administer them, albeit at a greatly increased cost if the treatment is required by individual animals. Oddly, not all veterinary practices have, as yet, been informed by Intervet of the change in legislation.

 

Why the legislation has been applied, I'm hoping to find out. As far as I'm aware, there is nothing wrong with storing or continuing to use Delvosterone for 28 days after the vial has been broached, why 'immediate' disposal of a broached vial is now necessary, I don't know. But, as you said, it is certainly causing problems and rescues will be hard hit. If this legislation proves to be set for the foreseeable future, then perhaps Intervet may provide individual doses of Delvosterone for use in ferrets if they receive justification to do so. I hope ferret rescues and ferret owners, including those on here, would help to try achieve that, because after all, it's not only the pocket that may suffer but also the ferrets.

 

 

well i have contacted fert over here who are a registered charity for just this kind of issue, hopefully they can conform if they have had other people contact regarding the same thing & if they have indeed contacted intervet

 

Certainly a start. Hopefully, the more people involved, the better. Good luck with FERT. Would be interested to hear what they have to say on the matter. Keep us informed from your end.

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Ahh right well yeah, I feed them mix of complete, fresh meat, and now and again abit of bread and milk. Think theyll get all the vitamins they need. Cheers

 

 

laugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.gif Another one with out a clue must be school summer holidays

And you know everything about ferrets right f**k face? My old man always had ferrets and I've had them, never had a sick one and they were all fed in that diet apart from maybe the complete. So wind yer neck in son

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I feed my ferrets on mainly rabbits, because I prefer to feed the most readily available wild meat if possible, and my ferrets lack nothing, you would have to put them on tranquilisers to stop them running around, and I'm not a fan of whacking up my ferrets with drugs they dont need, I use a more than happy snipped hob for such deeds :D

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Ahh right well yeah, I feed them mix of complete, fresh meat, and now and again abit of bread and milk. Think theyll get all the vitamins they need. Cheers

 

 

laugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.gif Another one with out a clue must be school summer holidays

 

And you know everything about ferrets right f**k face? My old man always had ferrets and I've had them, never had a sick one and they were all fed in that diet apart from maybe the complete. So wind yer neck in son

 

As youv'e already been told there cant take milk it gives them the shits but because your dad did it keep pumping in the bread and milk :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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Ahh right well yeah, I feed them mix of complete, fresh meat, and now and again abit of bread and milk. Think theyll get all the vitamins they need. Cheers

 

 

laugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.gif Another one with out a clue must be school summer holidays

And you know everything about ferrets right f**k face? My old man always had ferrets and I've had them, never had a sick one and they were all fed in that diet apart from maybe the complete. So wind yer neck in son

 

Ferrets are lactose intolerant,,, you should NOT give them cows milk,, breads shit for them as well.. this kind of diet was popular when folk were poor and ignorant about ferret care.. theres really no need to feed it nowadays,, if you want to give them milk,, get them cat milk

 

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I havent had a reply as yet , but i will message them again in a week if I dont get one in the meantime

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Ahh right well yeah, I feed them mix of complete, fresh meat, and now and again abit of bread and milk. Think theyll get all the vitamins they need. Cheers

 

 

laugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.gif Another one with out a clue must be school summer holidays

 

And you know everything about ferrets right f**k face? My old man always had ferrets and I've had them, never had a sick one and they were all fed in that diet apart from maybe the complete. So wind yer neck in son

 

As youv'e already been told there cant take milk it gives them the shits but because your dad did it keep pumping in the bread and milk :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

2-3 times a month is not going to harm them, smoking, drinking alcohol, sugary drinks, eating takeaway food there all bad for the human body but I bet you have them. So shut up you sad c**t

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I feed mine on the Dog grub from Durham Animal feed, raw Minced Lamb, and Beef, with occasional Rabbit, they will get more Rabbit when the season starts, I also have ad lib complete, this is feeding Kits, I tried them on Raw Minced green Tripe, but was surprised as they didn't seem to like it.

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I havent had a reply as yet , but i will message them again in a week if I dont get one in the meantime

 

Well, had some interesting reactions from the VMD. They are looking into the matter and tbh, the whole situation is very bizarre at present. I really don't know what is going on, and nor do those in charge either! It will certainy be intersting to hear what the FERT vet advisors have been told, if anything, and what their info is compared to what others have or haven't been told. It's all very, very odd!

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Ahh right well yeah, I feed them mix of complete, fresh meat, and now and again abit of bread and milk. Think theyll get all the vitamins they need. Cheers

 

 

laugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.gif Another one with out a clue must be school summer holidays

 

And you know everything about ferrets right f**k face? My old man always had ferrets and I've had them, never had a sick one and they were all fed in that diet apart from maybe the complete. So wind yer neck in son

 

As youv'e already been told there cant take milk it gives them the shits but because your dad did it keep pumping in the bread and milk :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

2-3 times a month is not going to harm them, smoking, drinking alcohol, sugary drinks, eating takeaway food there all bad for the human body but I bet you have them. So shut up you sad c**t

 

Yeh, but in all fairness, animals rely on their owners, just like children rely on their parents, and no right minded adult will give their child cigs & drink, crap food etc. Anyway, point is, bread and milk isn't suitable to feed ferrets, regardless of frequency. A mix of meat and complete ferret food is great, but not bread and milk. The ferrets get no goodness from it, and the excess starch and lactose really isn't good for them, it might not kill them, but it's still a poor choice. It's not an opinion, but a fact and you can rant, rave and swear all you want, but it won't change anything.

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Ahh right well yeah, I feed them mix of complete, fresh meat, and now and again abit of bread and milk. Think theyll get all the vitamins they need. Cheers

 

 

laugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.gif Another one with out a clue must be school summer holidays

 

And you know everything about ferrets right f**k face? My old man always had ferrets and I've had them, never had a sick one and they were all fed in that diet apart from maybe the complete. So wind yer neck in son

 

As youv'e already been told there cant take milk it gives them the shits but because your dad did it keep pumping in the bread and milk :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

 

2-3 times a month is not going to harm them, smoking, drinking alcohol, sugary drinks, eating takeaway food there all bad for the human body but I bet you have them. So shut up you sad c**t

 

Away and do some research on them before you harm them anymore or get a few goldfish :11:

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Ahh right well yeah, I feed them mix of complete, fresh meat, and now and again abit of bread and milk. Think theyll get all the vitamins they need. Cheers

 

 

laugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.gif Another one with out a clue must be school summer holidays

 

And you know everything about ferrets right f**k face? My old man always had ferrets and I've had them, never had a sick one and they were all fed in that diet apart from maybe the complete. So wind yer neck in son

 

As youv'e already been told there cant take milk it gives them the shits but because your dad did it keep pumping in the bread and milk :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

 

2-3 times a month is not going to harm them, smoking, drinking alcohol, sugary drinks, eating takeaway food there all bad for the human body but I bet you have them. So shut up you sad c**t

 

 

Yeh, but in all fairness, animals rely on their owners, just like children rely on their parents, and no right minded adult will give their child cigs & drink, crap food etc. Anyway, point is, bread and milk isn't suitable to feed ferrets, regardless of frequency. A mix of meat and complete ferret food is great, but not bread and milk. The ferrets get no goodness from it, and the excess starch and lactose really isn't good for them, it might not kill them, but it's still a poor choice. It's not an opinion, but a fact and you can rant, rave and swear all you want, but it won't change anything.

 

You cant educate them ferret and because dad did it , they will still get saps

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Ahh right well yeah, I feed them mix of complete, fresh meat, and now and again abit of bread and milk. Think theyll get all the vitamins they need. Cheers

 

 

laugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.gif Another one with out a clue must be school summer holidays

 

And you know everything about ferrets right f**k face? My old man always had ferrets and I've had them, never had a sick one and they were all fed in that diet apart from maybe the complete. So wind yer neck in son

 

As youv'e already been told there cant take milk it gives them the shits but because your dad did it keep pumping in the bread and milk :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

 

2-3 times a month is not going to harm them, smoking, drinking alcohol, sugary drinks, eating takeaway food there all bad for the human body but I bet you have them. So shut up you sad c**t

 

 

Yeh, but in all fairness, animals rely on their owners, just like children rely on their parents, and no right minded adult will give their child cigs & drink, crap food etc. Anyway, point is, bread and milk isn't suitable to feed ferrets, regardless of frequency. A mix of meat and complete ferret food is great, but not bread and milk. The ferrets get no goodness from it, and the excess starch and lactose really isn't good for them, it might not kill them, but it's still a poor choice. It's not an opinion, but a fact and you can rant, rave and swear all you want, but it won't change anything.

 

You cant educate them ferret and because dad did it , they will still get saps

That doesn't even makesense, my my your grammar is shocking. All makes sense now, your a little retarded poor thing. Never mind you still got your ferrets hey, but your one of those no mrs no kids so you look at your animals like there your family. How sad

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.....its a fact that bread and milk isnt good for them, so if you do it infrequently, why do it at all??? makes no sense.....and its not the same as beer and fags in people, they are stimulants, bread and milk will just make the ferts feel ill, no positive aspect whatsoever!

 

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