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[Malt 379]

To me that sums the whole of this soiciety up in one.

 

And THAT IS the problem.

 

Do you need a map with directions to an airport?

[arcticgun 4,548]

The BBC is supposed to be unbiased and all for free speech, yet it forces people to pay a fee and imprisons those that refuse or cannot afford to pay thats good innit???

 

With regards to not voting BNP because they support the RSPCA, not the best stick to beat people into not voting BNP with Matt, as all parties ban speeding, smoking dope and a miriade of other things people do for enjoyment or 'cause they can' voting based on single issues is a dangerous precedent to encourage mate

 

I don't trust any of them, I will vote tacticaly as to what best suits my needs and priorities which are to rid this country of the labour goverment, voting BNP won't accomplish this aim, Voting conservative probaly will, not voting is not an option this time.

 

I don't think the Conservatives will rescue Dog men either, they will sort there own out of course and lift the ban on organised fox hunting, again we will be sold up the river, probaly because we are not organised enough to be listened to, nor have we given any large cash donations to any of the parties!

 

Won't effect me though, cause I'll be out doing exactly as I want, when I want and I can live with the consequences so f**k the lot of them and crack on lifes to short!!

 

it's not racism, immigrants, nazis, that are killing this country it's APATHY, POLITICAL CORRECTNESS,BENEFIT CULTURE, DRUGS, CRIME, BANKERS and NU LABOUR!!!

 

atvb Richard

 

atb Richard

Edited October 23, 2009 by arcticgun

[artic 595]

To me that sums the whole of this soiciety up in one.

 

And THAT IS the problem.

 

Do you need a map with directions to an airport?

 

Have i confused you Maltenby by stating that poor education, crime rates have risen, neglect by parents has caused this soiciety to be in the dumps?

 

Airport? I do occaisonally have a little walk through the airports, so no mate i dont.

 

Edited October 23, 2009 by artic

[glass22 0]

I'll answer that for you Matt, although It's kinda funny that you said you don't rely on the BBC for your views, yet you just just stole their question hmm?

 

I don't know how the BNP define ethnically British but I would define it as.

 

I would define it as "As a person with two generatons of native british residents and at least 200 years without their bloodline being intrupted with that of outside means." If your parents came to Britain from Pakistan, than your clearly not ethnically British, if you came here last week from Poland your not British.

 

Where have you read that the BNP oposes hunting? I support the RSPCA I've donated to them before, I've gotten animals off them, I think some of their work is great and I support that aspect of their work completely. But I don't disagree with hunting and supporting a cause is not always agreeing with them on every point infact I disagree with them on many. Just like I don't agree with the BNP or any other politcal party on every issue.

 

Matt if you want anymore questions anwsering could you please try and think of them for yourself rarther than steal them from the BBC? thanks.

[Malt 379]

To me that sums the whole of this soiciety up in one.

 

And THAT IS the problem.

 

Do you need a map with directions to an airport?

 

Have i confused you Maltenby by stating that poor education, crime rates have risen, neglect by parents has caused this soiciety to be in the dumps?

 

Airport? I do occaisonally have a little walk through the airports, so no mate i dont.

 

You haven't confused me, but you seem to have confused yourself. Seeing as you see yourself as the intellectual genius of THL, a cut above the common man & mindset, you really should realise there's difference between the 'whole of this society' and 'this society as a whole'

[artic 595]

To me that sums the whole of this soiciety up in one.

 

And THAT IS the problem.

 

Do you need a map with directions to an airport?

 

Have i confused you Maltenby by stating that poor education, crime rates have risen, neglect by parents has caused this soiciety to be in the dumps?

 

Airport? I do occaisonally have a little walk through the airports, so no mate i dont.

 

You haven't confused me, but you seem to have confused yourself. Seeing as you see yourself as the intellectual genius of THL, a cut above the common man & mindset, you really should realise there's difference between the 'whole of this society' and 'this society as a whole'

 

Now now, no need to get personal Maltenby.

 

I'm not confused at all, i understand what is going on in society, i see it day in day out and i deal with it.

 

This does not make me any different from the next person. I accept and deal with it. Life is too short, and no i'm not in a wrap around bubble, trust me there have been days where i thought i was never going to see my family again.

 

The storm is far from over.

[Matt 160]

I'll answer that for you Matt, although It's kinda funny that you said you don't rely on the BBC for your views, yet you just just stole their question hmm?

 

I don't know how the BNP define ethnically British but I would define it as.

 

I would define it as "As a person with two generatons of native british residents and at least 200 years without their bloodline being intrupted with that of outside means." If your parents came to Britain from Pakistan, than your clearly not ethnically British, if you came here last week from Poland your not British.

 

Where have you read that the BNP oposes hunting? I support the RSPCA I've donated to them before, I've gotten animals off them, I think some of their work is great and I support that aspect of their work completely. But I don't disagree with hunting and supporting a cause is not always agreeing with them on every point infact I disagree with them on many. Just like I don't agree with the BNP or any other politcal party on every issue.

 

Matt if you want anymore questions anwsering could you please try and think of them for yourself rarther than steal them from the BBC? thanks.

 

Do you not think that the BBC may have been asking the question on behalf of millions of Britains who want to know who is for the gas chambers - sorry, I mean deporting, and who is not?

 

So effectively then, if you are black, muslim, jewish, asian, oriental or anything else, it's fine as long as your parents and grandparents were born here?

 

How are the 'superior beings' that are left going to know if one of these is here legally? Maybe a star of David or something on their outer clothing? I suspect that it will get so complicated that we'll end up having to put all these 'legals' somewhere together, "for their own protection"..........

 

It all sounds very, very familiar...........

[glass22 0]

Well if your Grandparents were from Pakistan then that would not be 200 years would it?

 

I think the BBC just asked the questions to scare monger against the BNP, where do you get BNP to Nazi connection?

 

Just cause they don't want mass immigration? cause if that's your point then your calling most of the people on here, and in Britain Nazis?

 

Or do you have another point to the Nazi remarks? O wait the BBC has not written that answer for you! I expect your next to reply to take several hours, while you try and come up with an answer for yourself.

 

You mean like, if we were to build detention centres for immigrants, O yeah we ALREADY have those, as does most other countries.

 

Could you also show me the BNP against hunting that you keep mentioning?

Edited October 23, 2009 by glass22

[Matt 160]

Well if your Grandparents were from Pakistan then that would not be 200 years would it?

 

I think the BBC just asked the questions to scare monger against the BNP, where do you get BNP to Nazi connection?

 

Just cause they don't want mass immigration? cause if that's your point then your calling most of the people on here, and in Britain Nazis?

 

Or do you have another point to the Nazi remarks? O wait the BBC has not written that answer for you! I expect your next to reply to take several hours, while you try and come up with an answer for yourself.

 

You mean like, if we were to build detention centres for immigrants, O yeah we ALREADY have those, as does most other countries.

 

Could you also show me the BNP against hunting that you keep mentioning?

 

You really should go back and read my earlier posts!!!

 

Even Griffin admits that the BNP is full of Nazis, and as for a connection let me think......... oh yeah, got it!

 

THE FINAL SOLUTION!

 

(and it didn't take hours for that reply either )

[artic 595]

Matt, it's very clear that yourself and a few others have sent the message home that the BNP are what they are.

 

Maybe some members will take on board what has been said, maybe some have been educated enough to open their eyes and see that the BNP are not going to make any difference whats so ever, espeacially from last nights performance.

 

There are certain answer you have asked Matt that will not be answered.

 

I for one will never vote for them, and i will happily continue to vote for conservatives like i have been since i was 19.

 

Society in time will change.

 

God help us all

 

[glass22 0]

Ahh I see so you didn't have any connection to Nazi and BNP or anthing so just wrote random crap?

 

Wow, you should go ask the BBC what they think about it, then come back.

[Matt 160]

Ahh I see so you didn't have any connection to Nazi and BNP or anthing so just wrote random crap?

 

Wow, you should go ask the BBC what they think about it, then come back.

 

If you can't see the connection between the BNP and the Nazis, then you need to open your eyes a little more. Who posted the picture of the EDL march recently with all the morons doing the hitler salute?

 

Why would I want, or need, to ask the BBC what they think about it? The BBC are a bunch of leftist reactionaries. I, on the other hand, am a perfectly sane person who wants immigration controlled and has always voted Conservative. Big difference.

[Matt 160]

Nazism has come to stand for a belief in the superiority of an Aryan race, an abstraction of the Germanic peoples. During Hitler’s time, the Nazis advocated a strong, centralized government under the Führer and claimed to defend Germany and the German people (including those of German ethnicity abroad) against Communism and so-called Jewish subversion. Ultimately, the Nazis sought to create a largely homogeneous and autarkic ethnic state, absorbing the ideas of Pan-Germanism.

 

Historians often disagree on the principal interests of the Nazi Party and whether Nazism can be considered a coherent ideology. The original National Socialists claimed that there would be no program that would bind them, and that they wanted to reject any established world view. Still, as Hitler played a major role in the development of the Nazi Party from its early stages and rose to become the movement’s indisputable iconographic figurehead, much of what is thought to be “Nazism†is in line with Hitler’s own political beliefs – the ideology and the man remain largely interchangeable in the public eye. Some dispute whether Hitler’s views relate directly to those surrounding the movement; the problem is exacerbated by the inability of various self-proclaimed Nazis and Nazi groups to decide on a universal ideology. But if Nazism is the world view promulgated in Mein Kampf, that world view is consistent and coherent, being characterized essentially by a conception of history as a race struggle; the Führerprinzip; anti-Semitism; and the need to acquire Lebensraum (living space) at the expense of the Soviet Union.[27] The core concept of Nazism is that the German Volk is under attack from a judeo-bolshevist conspiracy,[27] and must become united, disciplined and self-sacrificing (id est must submit to Nazi leadership) in order to win.

 

Hitler's political beliefs were formulated in Mein Kampf. His ideology had three main thoughts: a conception of history as a race struggle influenced by Social Darwinism; antisemitism; and the idea that Germany needed to acquire land from Russia. His antisemitism, coupled with his anti-Communism, gave the grounds of his conspiracy theory of “judeo-bolshevismâ€.[27] Hitler first began to develop his views through observations he made while living in Vienna from 1907 to 1913. He concluded that a racial, religious, and cultural hierarchy existed, and he placed “Aryans†at the top as the ultimate superior race, while Jews and “Gypsies†were people at the bottom. He vaguely examined and questioned the policies of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, where, as a citizen by birth, he had lived during the Empire’s last throes. He believed that its ethnic and linguistic diversity had weakened the Empire and helped to create dissent. Furthermore, he saw democracy as a destabilizing force because it placed power in the hands of, amongst others, ethnic minorities who he claimed, “weakened and destabilized†the Empire by dividing it against itself. Hitler’s political beliefs were affected by World War I and the 1917 October Revolution, and were further modified between 1920 and 1923. He formulated them definitively in Mein Kampf.

[arcticgun 4,548]

[quote name='artic' date='Oct 23 2009, 02:23 PM' post='1291587'

 

The storm is far from over.

 

Nor is this thread , I find myself agreeing with some of the polorising opinions, and also some of what the BNP supporters are saying, some where in the middle lays the answer we live in a 'New World' it's not so big anymore, information is far easier to come by, as is the truth, therefore better opinions can be formulated, we don't really need to be told what to think anymore.

 

The voting system is 'antique' as are those who want our vote, we should utilise the internet to gain public opinion of what 'the people' not just those that have the time and money to be heard , really think and want for 'OUR' country! The working class still live hear as well

 

Conservatives, Labour, Ultra factions of both, Liberals, Greens, BNP, NF, UKIP etc etc are all history, they have had there time and as a result we are a country that is no longer 'Great' there input has been appalling, and in truth they are getting worse by the decade, it's a new world so lets have something new, a bit more people power.

 

Mark my words it will take something 'new' to sort out the mire all of the above have left us in, we hae nothing, they still have their money, high ranking no-show jobs etc. They have used race, religion, climate of fear etc to mask the systematic demolishion of this country and its people,(whilst lining there pockets) where to busy fighting each other to watch what they are up to .

 

White, yellow, tan, black, polish, irish, catholic, protestant, nazi, jewish, we all ought to be ashamed that we have let a bunch of self serving c**ts lead us into the current situation and stood by and let it happen.

 

atb Richard

Edited October 23, 2009 by arcticgun

[dare 1,103]

They have been asked by the military to stop using or should i say abusing our military past in there advertising, our lads fought against Hitler , the bnp are Nazis supporters, were is the sense in that ?

 

NG had family who went to war against hitler? Im pretty sure that it the likes of Jack straw and that muslim woman..lived in the real world and had some fresh of the boat idiots who havent a clue theyd have different views....all of my black british mates would dislike having neighbours fresh from africa who are clueless to many things. Alot of say smarlions come from shit holes..the fear of say prision is no fear at all..i mean they are feed and have human rights even thats more than back home.

 

Made me laugh the other day i saw a posh bird on tv talking about how hard the credit crunch is....what the hell would she know when she doesnt work and her dad is a multi millionaire....fact is NG is the closest to us in the real world.

 

Matt the rat not having a dig but any chance of commenting on what i said in regards to the bnp and rspca?