AIREDALE TERRIERS COULD BE ON THE WAY!

[skycat 6,172]

Weasle: thank you for your reply.

 

Time and again I've said in CMW that the Airedale is not a beginner's dog, and time and again I've said they need bringing on steadily and training properly: so by doing that I'm really trying to put off the fly-by-nights and 'instant' dog dreamers. It's very hard to enthuse about something, or a particular type of dog (and I am by nature an enthusiastic person) without sounding as though you're bulling something up: and the problem with the written word is that unless you are writing a mathematical formula, each reader will read into what you are writing something slightly different or see it in a different way.

 

I'm sorry you see discrepancies in my bit on Picardies, but I honestly wrote what I felt about these dogs: once again, I did state that I'd only seen the two we had/have and not a fully mature and experienced dog of advancing years with a life time's work under its belt.

 

Another problem when writing: once again the published word is somehow seen as 'law', 'ultimate truth' or whatever you want to call it: look how the newspapers operate and what they do and don't get away with!!!

 

I'd love to have a proper debate with you Weasle: you sound like a thinking sort of person.

 

Finally, I'm the last person who would want to add to the ever growing pile of unwanted dogs: I've a dog here that I doubt I'll ever rehome, having 'rescued' him from a disastrous start in life. He is hyper, slightly nutty and with dreadful conformation but too nice a dog to destroy. He's too nice to put down, and I'd hate to inflict him on any normal person as he is hard work, so I'm stuck with him unless someone who really likes that sort of dog and has the time to do him justice comes along.

 

Most people, and I'm not judging anyone here, would have neither the time or the space to keep such a waste of space animal, and an Airedale could easily become such a dog if it wasn't reared and trained right. God forbid someone had Airedales without stock breaking them properly or earning those dogs' respect: they're too smart to put up with an idiot owner (in my opinion)

 

Bugger it: I've drivelled on again: sorry.

[skycat 6,172]

Skycat im still waiting to see some more pics of Dill?Any coming soon

 

I'll get some done this weekend: promise! It's difficult to work her and take pics at the same time: at least the pics you want to see of her retrieving stuff etc and not just her arse end sticking out of a bramble LOL

[adeyhawk1970 0]

Skycat im still waiting to see some more pics of Dill?Any coming soon

 

I'll get some done this weekend: promise! It's difficult to work her and take pics at the same time: at least the pics you want to see of her retrieving stuff etc and not just her arse end sticking out of a bramble LOL

[Stevie D 9]

Can I add some comments here, I've had a dog and a bitch from Ian. Firstly I'd like to say the man is a total gentleman and gave me both pups free of charge.

I got my first pup, a dog in June 2006 at 10 weeks. He wasn't the best socialised pup I'd ever had but he came round with a bit of time. As a pup, he was a pleasure to own but was VERY obstinate and was not the type to forget a clip round the ear, which he took very badly. I found him difficult to train, probably because I wasn't used to this type of dog as I've owned terriers all my life and they're NOT the same package. To cut a long story short, the dog needed me to be there 24 hours a day and when I was away at work (I work away 2 weeks at a time), he became very difficult for my wife to handle. This also had an effect on the rest of my terriers (as well as the wife) so last October we decided to let him go to someone who had just lost an Airedale, where he is very happy with a one dog family.

In the dog's defence, when he did what I wanted, he was brilliant; excellent nose on him, very intelligent, very affectionate and very impressive with a fox. I think he was just too much dog for us.

The second was a bitch pup, again given free who I gave to Penny at the same time as the dog went. She was Dill's sister and I believe she was gunshy so didn't fit Peny's needs.

If anyone is thinking about one of these dogs please make sure you get it as early as you can, I even say 6 weeks old.

don't get one unless you can give the dog plenty (and I mean plenty) of time and individual attention.

I tried and failed; but those dogs made a big impression on us and my wife still cries when we talk about the dog.

 

Stevie

[weasle 1,119]

Yes ok easy of me to be criticle, Never doubted the care you have for animals, but someone will see your articles and see £££, Not your fault,i guess. If i didnt own the lurcher, i own now a straight x,I would be jumping up and down for a pup. However i can give the lurcher all the work and testing she needs, but never as mutch as she wants, for her own sake.Iknow how ever the same could not be said for a straight Airedale.

As for the debate, well i will be reading,you never know. .

[skycat 6,172]

Good on you for your input S. Scarlett is fine: got an update on her a couple of weeks back and she's happy and settled. I didn't keep her mainly due to her submissive and gentle nature: Dill would always have been overshadowing her and Scarlett would have been following in her wake LOL Not saying that she wouldn't have made a good working dog as an only dog, but with my big pack which she hadn't been brought up in, she was always going to be trailing and I simply didn't have the time to put in to her one to one.

 

PS If this breeding takes place I'll be getting the pups down to my place at 6 weeks old where they will be intensively socialised, used to car travel etc etc. (What AM I letting myself in for???!!! I must be mad!! LOL)

[Stevie D 9]

Good on you for your input S. Scarlett is fine: got an update on her a couple of weeks back and she's happy and settled. I didn't keep her mainly due to her submissive and gentle nature: Dill would always have been overshadowing her and Scarlett would have been following in her wake LOL Not saying that she wouldn't have made a good working dog as an only dog, but with my big pack which she hadn't been brought up in, she was always going to be trailing and I simply didn't have the time to put in to her one to one.

 

PS If this breeding takes place I'll be getting the pups down to my place at 6 weeks old where they will be intensively socialised, used to car travel etc etc. (What AM I letting myself in for???!!! I must be mad!! LOL)

 

Thanks for the update Penny. You're a brave girl!!! That's very good of you, I think the pups will benefit enormously.

Stevie

[Guest miller1989]

Skycat has it spot on,im always intersted in any airedale thread i own and run the airedale lurcher and Skycat put it to a T. With this cross i believe its all about time and effort and if you have that its one of the best dogs to have in your kennels,without patience,time and effort this breed/cross would not be for you!

your the YOUNG lad that is lamping through the summer so as to get your dog fit are you not, sorry mate your views dont count to me.

 

 

WEASLE You call yourself a reader/writer go back and read it carefully and im sure you will find that there is no post on that thread about me going out to keep a dog fit or to get fit,so instead of splirting your arse all over the threads on the forum and thinking no one is right but you! f**k off! If you want to take your pathetic arguements further PM me!

[dark snipe 0]

Skycat how old is your airdale and how many seasons work has it seen?

[weasle 1,119]

Skycat has it spot on,im always intersted in any airedale thread i own and run the airedale lurcher and Skycat put it to a T. With this cross i believe its all about time and effort and if you have that its one of the best dogs to have in your kennels,without patience,time and effort this breed/cross would not be for you!

your the YOUNG lad that is lamping through the summer so as to get your dog fit are you not, sorry mate your views dont count to me.

 

 

WEASLE You call yourself a reader/writer go back and read it carefully and im sure you will find that there is no post on that thread about me going out to keep a dog fit or to get fit,so instead of splirting your arse all over the threads on the forum and thinking no one is right but you! f**k off! If you want to take your pathetic arguements further PM me!

Sorry young man, your the lad that go's lamping hares during the summer and is so proud of it you post it on here, There are some people worth argueing with and some that are not.YOU ARE NOT!

[skycat 6,172]

She's coming up to 18 months now, so only started last season and still a a teenager in a lotta ways, but very committed as a hunter. (And just in case your'e thinking that I'm breeding from her: NO I'm NOT!) Read my other posts about her which will fill you in on her.

 

The possible mating is between Dill's sire and dam, and then only if there are enough pups definitely booked.

[jrearthdog 8]

Edited May 23, 2009 by jrearthdog

[adeyhawk1970 0]

Good on you for your input S. Scarlett is fine: got an update on her a couple of weeks back and she's happy and settled. I didn't keep her mainly due to her submissive and gentle nature: Dill would always have been overshadowing her and Scarlett would have been following in her wake LOL Not saying that she wouldn't have made a good working dog as an only dog, but with my big pack which she hadn't been brought up in, she was always going to be trailing and I simply didn't have the time to put in to her one to one.

 

PS If this breeding takes place I'll be getting the pups down to my place at 6 weeks old where they will be intensively socialised, used to car travel etc etc. (What AM I letting myself in for???!!! I must be mad!! LOL)

Penny i feel the future of the working Airedale in the UK is in the right hands between you and Ian,all the best in the future the pair of you

[Guest little lurcher]

so refreshing to see pups being bred for the right reason and the right homes!!! congratulations , good luck with the litter and thank you for the honesty here too , i see at no point dogs being bigged up , ust solid experience good and bad , qualitys and failures

 

thank you

[fielder 18]

Weasle: thank you for your reply.

 

Time and again I've said in CMW that the Airedale is not a beginner's dog, and time and again I've said they need bringing on steadily and training properly: so by doing that I'm really trying to put off the fly-by-nights and 'instant' dog dreamers. It's very hard to enthuse about something, or a particular type of dog (and I am by nature an enthusiastic person) without sounding as though you're bulling something up: and the problem with the written word is that unless you are writing a mathematical formula, each reader will read into what you are writing something slightly different or see it in a different way.

 

I'm sorry you see discrepancies in my bit on Picardies, but I honestly wrote what I felt about these dogs: once again, I did state that I'd only seen the two we had/have and not a fully mature and experienced dog of advancing years with a life time's work under its belt.

 

Another problem when writing: once again the published word is somehow seen as 'law', 'ultimate truth' or whatever you want to call it: look how the newspapers operate and what they do and don't get away with!!!

 

I'd love to have a proper debate with you Weasle: you sound like a thinking sort of person.

 

Finally, I'm the last person who would want to add to the ever growing pile of unwanted dogs: I've a dog here that I doubt I'll ever rehome, having 'rescued' him from a disastrous start in life. He is hyper, slightly nutty and with dreadful conformation but too nice a dog to destroy. He's too nice to put down, and I'd hate to inflict him on any normal person as he is hard work, so I'm stuck with him unless someone who really likes that sort of dog and has the time to do him justice comes along.

 

Most people, and I'm not judging anyone here, would have neither the time or the space to keep such a waste of space animal, and an Airedale could easily become such a dog if it wasn't reared and trained right. God forbid someone had Airedales without stock breaking them properly or earning those dogs' respect: they're too smart to put up with an idiot owner (in my opinion)

 

Bugger it: I've drivelled on again: sorry.

Hey Skycat keep the updates coming and keep up the work to restore a great and versatile British breed.