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    and there are still fecking dogooders out there who think guns dont prevent crime! imagine if the old boy hadnt been lucky enough to have a weapon

    Exactly! The tossers would say they should have phoned the police for help ... They could have arrived in time to clean up the mess from the gang rape! What a joke!

    Hope the old fella pulls through!!

    When seconds count, the police are only minutes away...

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    I went for wood for mine , as said make sure drainage is good , better to put it to a main sewer rather than soak away if you can as its going to end up getting crap hair and all sorts down there and a soak away will end up blocked / stinking .

     

    My pair have insulated sleeping boxes inside the kennel.

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    I've looked at these myself but they didn't work out much cheaper than the solid Galv panels. Not sure how it would work out building your own. But I think I'm going down the solid panel route next with bar dividers and bar front gates. Small wooden kennel inside or a plastic barrel and a decent roof...20E37AB2-2A19-49DE-9E67-D1AFACB83484_zps
    gaz that's similar to what I'm doing only a block of 4 runs- 4ft x4ft each for my terriers-solid dividing partions and mesh door fronts-comes in at just under 700 notes for metalwork then got to put a roof on it,that's around another 100/150-they will have 30 l blue plastic barrels filled with sawdust and straw up off the floor.got all the drainage channels foc from site.worked it out at around 1050 all in.my lurcher runs 3.2m X2.0m and only has the one young dog in there as the wife has brought the old girl into the house.only gets up for a piss/walk or food lazy bitch lol.best thing about panels is they easy to take down/add on if need be ;) atb dc

    Yeah panels are really mobile and modular.

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    heard few stories of dogs nearly killing each other in and out of kennel when they have lived and worked along side each other for years

    There's only so much we can do though isn't there. Okay so you use solid panels in the kennel for dividers. But mine aren't 24/7 kennel dogs what only come out for a few hours a week like some.

    Can I not go a walk along the shop when they are playing in the garden?

    Can I not take a bath in case they kick off in the kitchen?

    Should I keep them in separate cages in the motor incase they decide to kill each other when I'm driving on the motorway?

    Or do you socialise the dogs well from young, let them experience plenty of time together as a pack in and around the house and give them plenty of graft and excersise so they are chilled out and relaxed and then hope for the best?

    In a word, no.

     

    There have been plenty of cases over the years of people losing their dogs in fights, or confiscations because someone has heard a fight and the police/RSPCA have got there before the owner.

     

    my dogs are all kennelled individually. If I'm not DIRECTLY supervising them (walking or training or playing in the garden) they go in their kennels or on chains so they can't each each other. When we go in the motor they are all muzzled. I'll be investing in seperate cages as soon as I get the set up right.

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    I went for wood for mine , as said make sure drainage is good , better to put it to a main sewer rather than soak away if you can as its going to end up getting crap hair and all sorts down there and a soak away will end up blocked / stinking .

     

    My pair have insulated sleeping boxes inside the kennel.

    P1000331_zpsnwioxele.jpg

    I've looked at these myself but they didn't work out much cheaper than the solid Galv panels. Not sure how it would work out building your own. But I think I'm going down the solid panel route next with bar dividers and bar front gates. Small wooden kennel inside or a plastic barrel and a decent roof...20E37AB2-2A19-49DE-9E67-D1AFACB83484_zps

    Definitely use solid dividers between pens. Don't want a dog getting dragged through the bars!

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    I had a American bulldog come from Oxford way a big strong dog pulled me over a couple of times when out hunting he would go through bushes like a spaniel he took a few different types of game he got in a few tussles as well but never got hurt and he was bomb proof never so much as a funny look to any person but I wouldn't have another one to many people breeding rubbish and I wouldn't want the worry of it biting someone

    I had a bitch imported direct from Alan Scott who was as good an alrounder as you could want and have seen a few very good dogs over the years but unfortunately the shit ones far outnumber even the average ones.If I was going to get another one which I'm not there is only 2 breeders in the UK that I would consider getting one from.
    The same Alan Scott who added Pitbull to his dogs to try make a name for himself? Some breed that AB.....
    His dogs had it in them right from the start.
    Exactly, just another puppy peddler making his name off the work of others..
    Yes he was just another peddler in the end but no different to most of the game dog fanciers out there.Them yanks would all sell their mother if the money was right.

    You think people of the UK are any better...

    What was the logic behind breeding from an unstable bitch?

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    As you say you will know the "odd" collie that will do a bull crosses job and there IS bull crosses that can catch all the game you said ,maybe with the exception of hares regularly.although on the lamp anything is possible,and regards to the speed there are bull crosses that are racy and quick enough to catch most ,they don't have to be heavy.

    For the record my older bitch has caught all you said and there is only bull and greyhound in her history ,does that mean she's not a "proper" bull cross

    This could go on and on lol. I don't mean the 'odd collie x' doing a bull x's job, I never said that. And there certainly WON'T be a bull/grey catching hares or most deer in this country that hasen't rebounded off a fence etc, even on the lamp. Seen plenty of collie crosses, I/2 X, but mostly 3/4 breds taking fox very regularly, as well as other quarry, and on the same night. But I do agree with you to a certain point, there obviously are some racily built 1/2 bull x's about, but they still aren't going to be fast enough to catch as much as most other types, especially some of the heavier types of bull x's. Big difference to a lurcher with an 1/8th bull as well as a drop of other blood and grey, to a 1st x bull grey.

    Anyway, how is your bitch bred, 5/8 grey 3/8 bull?

    Shark I agree with most of what you say but if you don't think there are bull crosses out there that could catch hare and deer preban then you ain't seen a good one mate.

    If I breed a dog that's 1/8 bull and 1/7 grey it's still a bull X. But I'd reckon that would have the speed to catch everything on this island.

     

    Many years ago I saw a first cross bull/grey catch everything you have described.

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    I notice a lot of these bull X have front feet like flippers.

    That's one thing im pleased with my pup is her feet

    Yeah she's got good tight cat feet. So has the other litter mate I've seen. My bull X needs his nails clipping regular as the shape of his foot means they don't wear properly, as he has flipper feet on the front.

    I've never cut and adult dogs nails in my life.

    If they aren't cut they start to push his foot out of shape. Yet my Bedlington X and herding dog mix don't need cutting ever. They all get the same amount of road work as well.

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    What are the GWP's temperament's like?

    Are they easily trained and generally easy to get on with?

     

    They're known as being independent hard headed b*****ds.

    And exactly how many have you trained? I have had two, and not had any problems, once I knew how to train them. If your not comfortable letting a dog work up to half a mile away from you and know that you still have the dog under control, then they are not for you. A lot of people think they can train them like a spaniel or a lab and it does not work, it goes against every instinct the dog has.

     

    TC

    You misinterpret my comments as criticism.

     

    I've not trained any, but I know people who have. Like you say, they can't be trained like a spaniel or lab.

     

    My current circumstances do not allow for such a dog, but when they change and things settle down I shall certainly be adding one to my kennel.

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    I notice a lot of these bull X have front feet like flippers.

    That's one thing im pleased with my pup is her feet

    Yeah she's got good tight cat feet. So has the other litter mate I've seen. My bull X needs his nails clipping regular as the shape of his foot means they don't wear properly, as he has flipper feet on the front.

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    I got attacked by a rodesian ridgeback in someones house and it was one of the scariest things thats happened to me me ,that also got me by the knee I punched it in the head about four times it let go and then came back for more I kicked it under its chin and it still managed to get my other leg punched it again and when it let go again I jumped in the bathroom and slammed the door. it had ripped both legs off my pants and I had two bleeding knees and I was stood in the bathroom looking like huckleberry finn in my now cut off jeans and I was shaking like a shitting dog and white as a ghost, I think it might have been a different outcome if I was outside in the open ,the owner of the dog said it had never bitten anyone before and because I had dreadlocks at the time he put it down to the dog thinking I was a wog :icon_eek:

    I was watching my lab in the guardan a few months back when I saw something mmoving near my fense. I knew it was a dog so ran out as my lab seems to get in trouble with other dogs. Before I knew it this large very fury dog just smashed head first though the fense and latched on to my lab. I ran over and grabbed it by the scruff to try and pull it off at which point started to realise I wa holding on to something that could probably kill me...it was fecking scarey I just couldn't get it off no matter what I did so I let go and was linning up to kick it in the head when the owner jumped in to the garden. The dog had a face like a bear with a curled tail. If I had had a few seconds to think I would have taken a knife but it happened so fast.

    sounds like an akita
    I Googled it and they have quite pointy faces. This dog had a face like a bear, probably looked cute hell as a pup. The closest I got to hownit looked was chow chow but it wasn't as furry as that. F**king strong as an ox though, I'm not big but it was like trying to pull a lump of rock, it just wouldn't move. My lab left a trail of blood all round the house and he's not a small dog he's 32 kg and very strong but it just nailed him to the ground and wiuldnt let go. It's easy to say what I would do in that situation but the speed it happened was so quick and I found myself out of my depth in seconds...

    Akita's have big strong heads, be either one of them or a Malamute....

    Or a CAO.

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    Like a few have said a pack of wolves would probably kill all the dogs if they got into a fight . I think the idea is that their a deterant . If a wolf gets injujred it could be curtains for it so maybe if their not starving they will go somewhere else they can get food reletivly easy somewhere else its probably worth going there than risk a life ending injury with the farm dogs .

     

    Possible wolf-dog interactions won't just be directly about eating the livestock though. Like other apex predators, wolves actively kill other lesser predators when encountered to improve their competitiveness in the local food chain. It just makes you wonder how many of these dogs you really need to be effective in areas that have well established wolf packs. In the video, although wolves were mentioned, it seemed that the most significant threat was coyote packs. Added to that I was under the impression, rightly or wrongly, that coyotes didn't really form packs in established wolf territory it just makes me wonder......

    Your right. Coyotes predate foxes, wolves predate coyotes, dingos predate feral cats. Where the wolves are rolling out from their re-introduction points the livestock guardian dogs are becoming ineffective. New breeds are being tried.

     

    http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-05-07/us-researchers-hope-more-assertive-foreign-dog-breeds-can-protect-livestock

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    Often wondered why LGDs weren't employed more in Canada and the US where they have real problems with predation, good to see someone encouraging their use over there :thumbs:

    They're not very effective against the foreign Mackenzie Valley wolf which has been introduced to the lower 48.

    Those are the timber wolves right? Can see why even a big LGD would struggle with them :yes:

    Yeah timber wolves. It was posed as a re-introduction but there is quite a bit of evidence that the Canadian wolves are a seperate subspecies. They are definitely bigger than the wolf which was made extinct in the lower 48, due to being a different species or merely large average individuals of the same species due to Bergmann's rule.

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    Think you would be able to tell if dog had it or not before its 2 year old if not shouldn't keep dogs

    Thats where you are wrong and why we see so many young dogs jacking and up for sale before they are two. A dog isnt physically finished until its 2 and not adult in mind until its 3. A dog becomes adult at three.

    Christ we've gone from 15 months, to 2 years and now it's 3 years.

    Any advances on 3 years? Anyone reckon 4 years?

    Lol only kidding mate. I'm sure you're right

    I've a bull/grey X wheaten/grey here that I'm sure will be the best dog ever. Just to make sure I won't be running him on anything other than a tennis ball till he's at least 5...

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    Dogs heart and lungs are not developed until 18months to 2years. Over exertion can not only cause physical but also mental damage. Pups should do no more than play run. Being pushed to over exert is bad for them. Biggest cause of defeat in a dog is lack of wind.no matter what the quarry. A dog is not capable of being fully fitness trained until it has finished growing inside its body aswell as out. You can ruin a good un. It happens all the time.

    BS Never heard so much shite in all my life, If you don’t have time to take your dog out, sell it someone who has. Please don’t breed your kids will be stuck in the house until they are 21.[/size]Injury prone dogs are more to do with genetics, badly bred curs, and bad luck. You haven’t seen many farm dogs grow up have you? [/size]
    A working sheep dog will do more miles in a week than any dog on here (unless you work dogs for a living like Ken). They get started training at 3-4 months, with hard training coming 6-8 months. Funny how the countryside isn't full of f****d and crippled sheep dogs isn't it?I've seen on many Ozzie sites the lads start working their pigs dogs at 4-6 months. Even seen some out at 3 months. I'd reckon that a feral pig is more of a challenge than a couple of summer rabbits. Them pig dogs seem to work well to 10 and beyond. I don't think he still posts here, but UphillDoc and Dan Edwards all started their dogs young. Again, plains coyotes will be rougher on a dog than some half grown rabbits. Are all of these people doing it wrong?!
    You don't have to worried about sheep dogs yapping, jacking, or injuring them self's too much either and they are fairly quick but you don't see them running at break neck speeds and its quarry disappearing down a hole 20yrds away.

    Sheep dogs can jack or injure themselves just like any other kind of working dog.

     

    Their quarry might not go down a hole, but they can shoot through a gap or round the side of the dog quick enough.

     

    Forget this 'One man and his dog' bollocks you see on TV and watch a dog working a proper size flock (200+). You will see that it's lots of sprints, twisting and turning.

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