While out lamping one night might mates bull x which was 28/29 inch to the shoulder went over the hill after a fox only to be discovered 5 mins later hangin to the throats of a English long horn bull that was huge we ran down the valley to where he'd got it and by the time he got there he had got it to its knee,s already I was the keeper there and told him we had to get it off quick or it would cost me a 1000 we both tried getting him of but his eyes had gone he'd lost it big time my pal is a big lad And I'm not small and we were struggling to get him off the bellowing went to a quite,r moan