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On 20/01/2019 at 08:33, two crows said:
my pup now her first season is going very well.
Just bred a liter off this little bitch she made the grade then some so decided to breed used a good home bred dog of mine nothing famous just top game finder and tested.
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On 11/06/2023 at 22:23, Lloyd90 said:
The problem with that mentally is, simply taking a dog to a shoot 4 days weeek don't make it a good dog.
There's untold number of stud adverts out there saying "dog works [insert impressive number]+ days a season", but that's no way what so ever to measure if the dog is any good.
A beating dog these days on a driven shoot doesn't even have to do a lot, they run through a woodland with a big number of birds, spooking birds up, often not flushing them properly anyway (bumping birds), and after a few shoot days most of the birds run on anyways so you don't get that many hard contact flushes that shows what a decent dog really is.
I have seen many many dogs "taken beating", the owner snap photo's for their stud dog page, and proclaim to anyone who'll listen (or pay a stud fee) that the dog is a solid worker, yet I have seen those same dogs commit numerous major faults such as whining/yipping, chasing game, having hard mouth and crunching birds when retrieving, and just generally being out of control ... yet their rose tinted owner still proclaims what a great dog that are.
There are some very good, well trained dogs out there who "just go beating" but if I was ever going to consider it for stud I definitely wouldn't take the owners word for it sadly, I would want to see it worked extensively in the field.
Lads who take their dogs rough shooting would (you'd think) have their dogs to a higher standard. In order for the day to be a success, the dog needs to hunt and stay within the range of the gun. A beating dog can (and I have seen many that are) be miles outside of gunshot range, yet as long as the birds they are knocking up go over the gun line it doesn't matter. A good rough shooting dog needs to hunt in range, needs to properly flush birds or game sitting tight, and needs to mark and retrive back to hand. A trial dog should (in theory at least) be a very well polished shooting dog.
Personally I would take a trail awarded dog over someone's self-proclaimed best beating dog any day of the week.
I just bred some pups off two of my own dogs the father is off my old dog now gone who was straight off openshaws druid possibly the best trialing dog ever and producer but generally I only breed off dogs I have seen working for several seasons .
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On 04/06/2020 at 23:41, two crows said:
I see your dogs ped on the other thread juckler and the coments of tampering I believe a lot of the old coursing lurcher peds are made up to suit egos as well to be fair, here is old flashes ped his parents can be found a long way back in most of the well known saluki lines,i put a pic up on the red thread off a fred bitch I bred.
sadly the chap in the picture who got me started with coursing dogs over 50 years ago just died he was my wifes uncle and my boyhood hero rip mick.
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all the pics are on here i cant get to them they all lost in a dead laptop and i am old lol
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when you breed from good dogs it dose not mater about coat type, thats why the different types keep coming out cos lads keep using them. our old seventy's stuff came from caleb of xeros he was out springbarn sandpiper who is in all the saluki's mentioned.
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just came on for a look lads see its still the same old bolocks though lol good by
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i only ever get a problem if they run on a roadway and never done any strapping up there normaly ok after a day or two my bitch lost a nail completely a fortnight ago and killed 2x2 on sat morn what are you running on mate (ground i mean not quarry).
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8 hours ago, bird said:
Do you really think sandy, that keeping active in old age is the way to go lol. I was out for 2 1/2 hours mooching with Buck this early morning, the lads I was with think like you, that you got to keep at'um lol, it OK for them there near 20 years younger than me, I feel my 69 years now haha, but I do think in all honesty that me been with lurchers / lamping for 30 odd years as deff, helped to keep me ticking over
you need lean on the stick a bit more mate
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i blame tony blair the cnut should be locked up
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make a small loop about half way up a piece of rope put the single end through and tighten up on dogs neck and let go to slip i used this method when running hedgy land as a boy, i now use webbing with a hand loop at either end when not slipping put both over your hand good positive hold.
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On 15/07/2021 at 09:53, poxon said:
I love a good real hunting man speech!
proper work ffs if there out running shit an catching shit that’s proper enough! 
did that hit a nerve son, look when i was a young man and was lamping several nights a week and coursing week ends you need several dogs end of story, or your sitting at home, now in answer to the mans question i would put a good beddy lurcher to the bitch i have here just cos thats what i started with and would like to try another.
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i put whippet in my coursing dogs in the seventys they was fast aggresiv little killers and could settle in when needs be.
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3 minutes ago, mC HULL said:
He had a line whippet greys bk in the day mate bow line he's having another crack
why would he do that lol.
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what is going to be produced exactly, have i missed something?.
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you never get through a season of proper work with one dog,going half arsed odd night / day maybe, my current runner goes more than once a week but that might only be one or two runs daytime, ore 3/4 rabbits night time on average so not hammered, my spaniels on the other hand do 2/3 full days a week and towards the end of the season i start nursing them along by leaving some off here and there, as they are a bit full on and never stop, so i dont want them burnt out.
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On 16/06/2021 at 23:43, SheepChaser said:
This is a very good point. I think it’s true of all areas of dog work. There are some dogs who have made a rep, have put a lot of stuff away but the men have always travelled to put things in the dogs favour. Which is fair enough, but bags don’t tell the whole tale. A dog that catches the stuff other dogs wouldn’t is more impressive.
i have seen plenty of hares killed by what i would consider average dogs that were handled very well, and most never see a real top class animal as they are still a rare thing.
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15 minutes ago, mC HULL said:
Some lads will ask 5k 10k a match but that's just pricing yourself out you go up they wont slip keep money down slip then its up to dogs mate
i dont match mc never have, its all about sport for me, if she pulls she goes if its a safe place, if i ran like some so called good dog men i have seen my bitch wunt miss one lol
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11 hours ago, mC HULL said:
theyd have to rub there eyes if somone took good couirsing bred over there mate theyd think how the faaack
i can remember men in the seventys and later, thinking that here first time they see one run lol
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3 hours ago, mC HULL said:
Back then like this mate 70s say lads got pure the only thing to breed it with was a lurcher mate then bk to pure or with someone saluki lurcher they got from same spot
our old saluki blood from micks flash is traceable back to 1890 in iraq same blood comes forwards to modern coursing dogs via your dads dogs as well, flash went to mostly lurchers as you say, used over what lads already had, but also threw some handy first crosses and pures as well, atb tc
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On 05/04/2021 at 01:04, Black neck said:
A up
a-up to you to
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bet bill had some good doby crosses back in the day, he had every thing else you could mention lol.
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On 07/12/2020 at 08:57, Born Hunter said:
@two crows on here makes them iirc. Maybe you'd both be interested in doing business
i only make simple functional everyday type sticks nowt fancy
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On 10/11/2020 at 22:52, Jekyll said:
Has anyone heard about a forecoming Netflix film about Daves life and his work breeding the true deerhound? Or did i have my leg pulled?
if its true hope he dont skin no fkn rabbits lol
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1 hour ago, mC HULL said:
I can go were a want near me but seen the rural wildlife and crime mitsubishi about 8 times already
Seen a good bit ploughed in near me didn't no that two crow
if its planted early its ok but later stuff gets attacked, was talking to a farmer where I go he said all coursers left now are crims, and it must be true coss wildlife officer said so.
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Good mate just got fed up of all the idiots in the running dog game still am lol