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  1. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    bankrupt.... they wont veto mate, me and mushy already went through this, eh lad? 1. there are other options mate, lets just see what pans out, i believe the uk gov will change its stance on this. mays already said we will know how things are going to look within 18 months, kind of shot herself in the foot 2. this is true, it could go either way, its closer than yous think 3. its all in the wording mate, could, might, bla bla bla, poltics game. you guys are quick enough to point this out to me the latest has been. would you be ok with another referendum in future of the uk rejoining the eu? Watch them veto and don't even for a second think we have "had this out" you fuucking moron. Spain cannot and will not risk losing Pais Basquo or Cataluña. France will not want their separatist regions pissing off, no way on God's sweet earth will Belgium allow a Flemish separatism. You are a fool if you cannot see this. PS Cataluña have refs every year which Central government of Spain, The EU and every single organisation in-between do not recognise. Not one of them!!! So what makes you fuucking idiots so special? (By idiots I am referring to pricks like Joe and Kranky, not the everyday genuine Jock who just want to get on with their lives) Have they said they will 100% veto or they would need to reapply?? They have said reapply is the only way and that they can and will use their veto if they feel their sovereignty is in jeopardy!!! you have completely ignored everything i have said because you do not have the mental capacity to even debate it. If you hold one, not sanctioned by Westminster the whole EU will ignore the result, the same as they do with Catalan indy refs Tell me when have the EU every recognised the Catalan vote??? Catalonia in Spain is very different from Scotland in the UK, constitutionally Did you read the tory ministers comments the other day on how northen ireland could join the eu no problem if they voted to unite and the uk would also help? Stop glossing over the points and answer them.... you can't because 1) you're an idiot, 2) you're incapable, 3) you cannot because you know that I am correct. I live in Cataluña and have done for 6 years. Please Mr knowfuuckingeverything enlighten me as to how they are different? scotland was a kingdom.. and then decided to join after a vote, although there are mixed opinons on the said vote... keeping it basic, because am a idiot, catalonia was never kingdom and why it has no rights to claim independence under current laws
  2. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    LMAO 100billion in export??? What the fuuck are you exporting? Please tell me how that figure you just pulled out of your arse breaks down Nearly £ billion without oil and gas, the firgures for oil and gas will drop and rise again 2016/17 no ones mentioned the biggest oil find in a 100 years? You really are wholly incapable of taking me on in a debate pal! Break it down correctly ffs. I work in business and if you came to me with that shit as a breakdown I'd sack you and have security rape you on the way out i have a feeling this wont be good enough? 49.8 billion to the rest of uk 12.3 billion to the eu 14.6 to rest of the world
  3. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    whats unfounded? there has been no statement saying 100% veto
  4. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    bankrupt.... they wont veto mate, me and mushy already went through this, eh lad? 1. there are other options mate, lets just see what pans out, i believe the uk gov will change its stance on this. mays already said we will know how things are going to look within 18 months, kind of shot herself in the foot 2. this is true, it could go either way, its closer than yous think 3. its all in the wording mate, could, might, bla bla bla, poltics game. you guys are quick enough to point this out to me the latest has been. would you be ok with another referendum in future of the uk rejoining the eu? Watch them veto and don't even for a second think we have "had this out" you fuucking moron. Spain cannot and will not risk losing Pais Basquo or Cataluña. France will not want their separatist regions pissing off, no way on God's sweet earth will Belgium allow a Flemish separatism. You are a fool if you cannot see this. PS Cataluña have refs every year which Central government of Spain, The EU and every single organisation in-between do not recognise. Not one of them!!! So what makes you fuucking idiots so special? (By idiots I am referring to pricks like Joe and Kranky, not the everyday genuine Jock who just want to get on with their lives) Have they said they will 100% veto or they would need to reapply?? They have said reapply is the only way and that they can and will use their veto if they feel their sovereignty is in jeopardy!!! you have completely ignored everything i have said because you do not have the mental capacity to even debate it. If you hold one, not sanctioned by Westminster the whole EU will ignore the result, the same as they do with Catalan indy refs Tell me when have the EU every recognised the Catalan vote??? Catalonia in Spain is very different from Scotland in the UK, constitutionally Did you read the tory ministers comments the other day on how northen ireland could join the eu no problem if they voted to unite and the uk would also help?
  5. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    bankrupt.... they wont veto mate, me and mushy already went through this, eh lad? 1. there are other options mate, lets just see what pans out, i believe the uk gov will change its stance on this. mays already said we will know how things are going to look within 18 months, kind of shot herself in the foot 2. this is true, it could go either way, its closer than yous think 3. its all in the wording mate, could, might, bla bla bla, poltics game. you guys are quick enough to point this out to me the latest has been. would you be ok with another referendum in future of the uk rejoining the eu? Watch them veto and don't even for a second think we have "had this out" you fuucking moron. Spain cannot and will not risk losing Pais Basquo or Cataluña. France will not want their separatist regions pissing off, no way on God's sweet earth will Belgium allow a Flemish separatism. You are a fool if you cannot see this. PS Cataluña have refs every year which Central government of Spain, The EU and every single organisation in-between do not recognise. Not one of them!!! So what makes you fuucking idiots so special? (By idiots I am referring to pricks like Joe and Kranky, not the everyday genuine Jock who just want to get on with their lives) Have they said they will 100% veto or they would need to reapply?? They have said reapply is the only way and that they can and will use their veto if they feel their sovereignty is in jeopardy!!! you have completely ignored everything i have said because you do not have the mental capacity to even debate it. If you hold one, not sanctioned by Westminster the whole EU will ignore the result, the same as they do with Catalan indy refs Tell me when have the EU every recognised the Catalan vote??? are we going to repeat the last thread... have they said they will 100% veto
  6. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    whats unfounded mate? ill try my best to clear it up
  7. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    LMAO 100billion in export??? What the fuuck are you exporting? Please tell me how that figure you just pulled out of your arse breaks down Nearly £ billion without oil and gas, the firgures for oil and gas will drop and rise again 2016/17 no ones mentioned the biggest oil find in a 100 years?
  8. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    bankrupt.... they wont veto mate, me and mushy already went through this, eh lad? 1. there are other options mate, lets just see what pans out, i believe the uk gov will change its stance on this. mays already said we will know how things are going to look within 18 months, kind of shot herself in the foot 2. this is true, it could go either way, its closer than yous think 3. its all in the wording mate, could, might, bla bla bla, poltics game. you guys are quick enough to point this out to me the latest has been. would you be ok with another referendum in future of the uk rejoining the eu? Watch them veto and don't even for a second think we have "had this out" you fuucking moron. Spain cannot and will not risk losing Pais Basquo or Cataluña. France will not want their separatist regions pissing off, no way on God's sweet earth will Belgium allow a Flemish separatism. You are a fool if you cannot see this. PS Cataluña have refs every year which Central government of Spain, The EU and every single organisation in-between do not recognise. Not one of them!!! So what makes you fuucking idiots so special? (By idiots I am referring to pricks like Joe and Kranky, not the everyday genuine Jock who just want to get on with their lives) Have they said they will 100% veto or they would need to reapply??
  9. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    You cant compare the two, be carefull on ripping into scotlands ££££ the bbc have just been found guilty of reporting false information.. LOL Around 100 billion £ exports would be a good place to start for a new independent scotland The EU “procedure”, incidentally, would go something like this: SCOTLAND: Can we join/stay, please? EU: Do you meet all the criteria? SCOTLAND: Yes, we’ve been a member for 40 years already in the UK. EU: Welcome! There seems to be a seat free.
  10. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    It seems to me that the nationalist seem to have it in there heads that there always getting a rough deal when in fact Scotland has the best deal on many things that the rest of us are subsidizing they have been unchallenged for 10 years there living in a bubble ...problem with bubbles is they eventually pop! the old subsidize line, i was wondering when that would be mentioned... what next, scotland cant afford to be independent Ironically Joe the only way Scotland will afford it is by taking the deserting companys after brexit and filling the place with eastern Europeans to fill the jobs loosing any identity they had you will have more poles than Scott's ... so much for nationalism and identity eh ? you couldn't make it up lol we"ll do just fine on our own mate, like many other small nations.. No you won't I'm still waiting for you to come back on all those points I made :laugh: You have nothing to offer the world, the EU or your own people. I hope you get independence and when you fail, then it's your own countrymen you independistas will have to answer to and they will be pretty pissed about it Answer this very one easy question Joe; Why does the Union exist, who requested it and why? hahaha, your some man, everyone read the posts mate, you ducked and dived like mayweather
  11. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    they wont veto mate, me and mushy already went through this, eh lad? 1. there are other options mate, lets just see what pans out, i believe the uk gov will change its stance on this. mays already said we will know how things are going to look within 18 months, kind of shot herself in the foot 2. this is true, it could go either way, its closer than yous think 3. its all in the wording mate, could, might, bla bla bla, poltics game. you guys are quick enough to point this out to me the latest has been. would you be ok with another referendum in future of the uk rejoining the eu?
  12. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    cmon mate you can do better than this, show me information that states the 3 countries have said they will 100% veto scotland we can use the pound, some of the old arguments you guys are repeating have been debunked loads of times. its just as much scotlands as its any other country in the uk... we have seen recent the drop in the pound, how much more would it drop without scotland? would be a big loss, in the hard times to come What you say doesn't make sense. Of course the pound is as much yours as it is any country in the UK. Surely the point is you wouldn't be in the UK, so therefore not yours any more? cmon mate, 3 countries 100% ??? we helped make the pound what it was, scotland contributed, either way if there was a yes vote the pound can be used as a currency union or not.. there would be alot to loose for the rest of uk if not, common sense? theres more to come on currency, hopefully we can both be more clear instead of repeating 2014
  13. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    cmon mate you can do better than this, show me information that states the 3 countries have said they will 100% veto scotland we can use the pound, some of the old arguments you guys are repeating have been debunked loads of times. its just as much scotlands as its any other country in the uk... we have seen recent the drop in the pound, how much more would it drop without scotland? would be a big loss, in the hard times to come
  14. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    Unfortunately, if Scotland ever did become independent, public spending would have to be slashed in a way that would make most Scotsmen beg to be allowed back into the UK under a Tory government. That's not forgetting all the powers that will be handed back to Brussels with no rebate what makes you say that mate? we also wouldnt be paying large sums towards high speed rail, upkeep on buckingham palace, westminster, trident etc etc
  15. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    It seems to me that the nationalist seem to have it in there heads that there always getting a rough deal when in fact Scotland has the best deal on many things that the rest of us are subsidizing they have been unchallenged for 10 years there living in a bubble ...problem with bubbles is they eventually pop! the old subsidize line, i was wondering when that would be mentioned... what next, scotland cant afford to be independent Ironically Joe the only way Scotland will afford it is by taking the deserting companys after brexit and filling the place with eastern Europeans to fill the jobs loosing any identity they had you will have more poles than Scott's ... so much for nationalism and identity eh ? you couldn't make it up lol we"ll do just fine on our own mate, like many other small nations..
  16. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    It seems to me that the nationalist seem to have it in there heads that there always getting a rough deal when in fact Scotland has the best deal on many things that the rest of us are subsidizing they have been unchallenged for 10 years there living in a bubble ...problem with bubbles is they eventually pop! the old subsidize line, i was wondering when that would be mentioned... what next, scotland cant afford to be independent
  17. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    haha, build it and they will come
  18. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    would you like to keep all the debt to? feel free to take trident aswell
  19. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    it was well stated by better together that the only way to guarentee scotlands place in the eu was vote no, feck, even a few of you said as much one of many:
  20. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    The manifesto was clear, there is a legitimate mandate.
  21. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    It doesn't matter if it's the 1st or 100th independence referenfum, if it's the will of the Scottish people then that should be good enough.
  22. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    not at all mate, its going to happen
  23. Joe1888

    Indyref2

    nicola queen of scots the gun has been fired, cant see wm holding its position.... time will tell
  24. the gun has just been fired. alot to come
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