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I wouldnt claim to be knowledgable on mma ive never competed at it......ive done a bit with lads who have competed in it just to see what its all about and while we wasnt going full on its enough to gauge whats what.....but you simply cant argue with the rules......a boxers only respite when under attack is to block the punch or avoid it....an mma fighter can block,avoid or grab hold and stop his opponent from working.......the rules are there for all to see its not my opinion.Your showing your lack of knowledge there and with the training camp comment unless you've experienced it you don't know what your talking about. I've found a lot of old men make the same mistake
yeah what would i know.Ive found a lot of people who dont know what to say next just have a pop instead of explaining themselves
Not having a pop but to think that groundwork is a rest shows you don't know what your talking about I'm sure you are quite knowledgeable on boxing but you obviously aren't on mma
Not arguing the rules but I know enough about boxing to know you can clinch when you are in trouble and tie up your opponent the ref will yell break which doesnt happen straight away you break taking your time to back away from the refferee then immediately go back to a clinch and it all starts over again all the time your head is clearing and your wasting time now in mma same situation you get wobbled you try to clinch the ref won't yell break you will be punched elbowed and kneed on the inside all the time trying to block a takedown if you aren't successfull and you taking down you can still be punched and elbowed on the floor there is no rest in mma and people who think there is obviously don't know what they are talking about
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And its taken you 8 pages of arguing for it to finally sink inSo if it's boxing Mayweather will win, and if it's UFC McGregor will win.
Not sunk in, your still bleating on about boxing, yawn.
I thought the thread was a bout an MMA fighter competing against a boxer...in boxing.
If anyone thinks all the talented fighters go to a sport where they'll be paid a fraction of what they would by boxing are deluding themselves.
People still buying the UFC advertising "AS REAL AS IT GETS!!!!"
Then why are boxers so shit now and the worlds best boxer wouldn't last a round in the ufc and before everyone starts saying its a different sport and a ufc fighter wouldn't last in a boxing ring yes it's a different sport but the simple fact is a ufc fighter will always beat a boxer
They're not so shit now,they're athletes the same as they always have been.
And a good wrestler or Thai boxer would almost always beat a boxer of the same level and size in a no holds barred fight too,what's that got to do with anything?
Does the fact that Usain Bolt couldn't compete at a high level in the 5000 metres mean he's less of a athlete than Mohammed Farrah?
The fact is boxing's far more competitive than MMA,so it's harder to make it to a high level.
The same as football is far more competitive than boxing.
Boxers today aren't what they were
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Your showing your lack of knowledge there and with the training camp comment unless you've experienced it you don't know what your talking about. I've found a lot of old men make the same mistake
yeah what would i know.Ive found a lot of people who dont know what to say next just have a pop instead of explaining themselves
Not having a pop but to think that groundwork is a rest shows you don't know what your talking about I'm sure you are quite knowledgeable on boxing but you obviously aren't on mma
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And its taken you 8 pages of arguing for it to finally sink inSo if it's boxing Mayweather will win, and if it's UFC McGregor will win.
Not sunk in, your still bleating on about boxing, yawn.
I thought the thread was a bout an MMA fighter competing against a boxer...in boxing.
If anyone thinks all the talented fighters go to a sport where they'll be paid a fraction of what they would by boxing are deluding themselves.
People still buying the UFC advertising "AS REAL AS IT GETS!!!!"
Then why are boxers so shit now and the worlds best boxer wouldn't last a round in the ufc and before everyone starts saying its a different sport and a ufc fighter wouldn't last in a boxing ring yes it's a different sport but the simple fact is a ufc fighter will always beat a boxer
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I've seen it a few times British are as soft as shit now if that happens over here there would be a outcry and everyone would need counceling because they have been so offended
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If your on the bottom it's not a rest. On top it is.
Exactly mate the world of fighting has moved on boxing don't cut it anymore all the talent goes in to mma that's why the fighters that are champions today wouldn't even be a contender 20 /30 years ago and unless you've experienced mma you don't realise how hard it is that laying on the floor that people think is a rest is twice as hard as standup
And its taken you 8 pages of arguing for it to finally sink inSo if it's boxing Mayweather will win, and if it's UFC McGregor will win.
Not sunk in, your still bleating on about boxing, yawn.
Not necessarily. It might look easy like your just resting but it's constant work it's actually easier to rest in boxing than mma
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And its taken you 8 pages of arguing for it to finally sink inSo if it's boxing Mayweather will win, and if it's UFC McGregor will win.
Not sunk in, your still bleating on about boxing, yawn.
Exactly mate the world of fighting has moved on boxing don't cut it anymore all the talent goes in to mma that's why the fighters that are champions today wouldn't even be a contender 20 /30 years ago and unless you've experienced mma you don't realise how hard it is that laying on the floor that people think is a rest is twice as hard as standup
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No expert but I'm guessing it's shaped like a W
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A boxer cant grab his opponent the referee will call break is he does........an mma fighter can go to the ground get in a clinch and stay there for minutes on end before the referee will stand them up.......the only real way a boxer can sneak a breather is on the move an mma fighter can literally lay down and rest his bodyweight on an opponent.If a boxer wants a breather he grabs his opponent. Can't do that in mma as you know or you'll be put on yer arse.
Your showing your lack of knowledge there and with the training camp comment unless you've experienced it you don't know what your talking about. I've found a lot of old men make the same mistake
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Pm sent thanks very much mate
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A boxing match can't be compared to a ufc fight the discipline is much harder for mma fighters and the fights are much harder of course there will still be hard boxing matches and there will still be bad mma fights but on the whole mma is a much harder discipline
You've missed the point. The point was the above mentioned boxing matches had you seen them are great fights absolute wars etc no posing no referees jumping in etc. I was simply stating boxing still has great wars Nd imo has more relevant fights than what ufc have been making recently.
Yes why ?
Casual fight fan are ya then ? Or just looking for a bite.
Pretty much in other words if it's a actual fight with world class fighters that need to be well rounded with a big heart mcgregor will win if it's a dance and posing contest in giant gloves that will be stopped of someone gets hit to hard or gets a bruise or god forbid a cut and the only point is to pose and look flashy and get points mayweather could winSo if it's boxing Mayweather will win, and if it's UFC McGregor will win.
Gatti ward
Crawford Gamboa
Marquez vs vasquez.
Have a look at them. No posing or dancing or fightin hand picked fighters like the ufc favours these days
Can you read?
Then why is it hand picked, Mayweather offered McGregor out for $15m, McGregor's managment have pushed it to $25m.
Yep and that's exactly it the talk of this fighting happening is in a boxing ring. As has been said mcgregor couldnt hang with any high level junior middleweight. That's about it.
Not really because he's better than most and he's capable of beating mayweather in the ring but mayweather couldn't beat mcgregor in the cage and that's about it
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Yes why ?
Casual fight fan are ya then ? Or just looking for a bite.
Pretty much in other words if it's a actual fight with world class fighters that need to be well rounded with a big heart mcgregor will win if it's a dance and posing contest in giant gloves that will be stopped of someone gets hit to hard or gets a bruise or god forbid a cut and the only point is to pose and look flashy and get points mayweather could winSo if it's boxing Mayweather will win, and if it's UFC McGregor will win.
Gatti ward
Crawford Gamboa
Marquez vs vasquez.
Have a look at them. No posing or dancing or fightin hand picked fighters like the ufc favours these days
Can you read?
Then why is it hand picked, Mayweather offered McGregor out for $15m, McGregor's managment have pushed it to $25m.
You've missed the point. The point was the above mentioned boxing matches had you seen them are great fights absolute wars etc no posing no referees jumping in etc. I was simply stating boxing still has great wars Nd imo has more relevant fights than what ufc have been making recently.
A boxing match can't be compared to a ufc fight the discipline is much harder for mma fighters and the fights are much harder of course there will still be hard boxing matches and there will still be bad mma fights but on the whole mma is a much harder discipline
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So if it's boxing Mayweather will win, and if it's UFC McGregor will win.
Pretty much in other words if it's a actual fight with world class fighters that need to be well rounded with a big heart mcgregor will win if it's a dance and posing contest in giant gloves that will be stopped of someone gets hit to hard or gets a bruise or god forbid a cut and the only point is to pose and look flashy and get points mayweather could win
Casual fight fan are ya then ? Or just looking for a bite.
Gatti ward
Crawford Gamboa
Marquez vs vasquez.
Have a look at them. No posing or dancing or fightin hand picked fighters like the ufc favours these days
I've seen them fights and fighters I used to think like that I'm by no means a professional but I've had experience in both sports and boxing training and the actual fighting are nowhere near as tough as mma. Boxing was a tough sport but it's changed so much boxers are a shadow of what they were
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So if it's boxing Mayweather will win, and if it's UFC McGregor will win.
Pretty much in other words if it's a actual fight with world class fighters that need to be well rounded with a big heart mcgregor will win if it's a dance and posing contest in giant gloves that will be stopped of someone gets hit to hard or gets a bruise or god forbid a cut and the only point is to pose and look flashy and get points mayweather could win
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Did he do it with boxing gloves on or little 4 oz mitts ?....did he knock out a man from a boxing stance or mma ?.......has Mayweather ever kicked a man ?
Eh ? They are talking about a straight boxing match of course the boxer is up to it lolI know some very quick lads that will knock you out whether you know Kung Fu or not. So you don't think the boxer is up to it?
McGregor knocked out one of his opponents in one punch, has Mayweather ever done that?
Ask people who have experienced fight sports you,ll get one answer.....ask people who have just watched fight sports on telly you,ll get a completely different answer its apples and oranges mate.
Gloves don't make any difference, if you get hit hard enough, your going down. Stance made no difference, he was knocked out.
Are you for real? Even boxing gloves can make a difference let alone jumping from MMA gloves to boxing gloves.
I think Connor will be ok going from fighting to sparring with bitch mittens with a refferee making sure no body gets punched
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Is it a strong stuff collar or are you worried about drowning
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I think a lot of people get caught up on the hype they don't like Connor so they look for reasons he will lose they get caught up in floyds mistic so he can't lose but at the end of the day Connor is bigger stronger younger doesn't fear or respect floyd will force floyd to fight his fight floyd would start to pose like he always does and hope for a points win and mcgregor would bully him
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Mcgregor throws lots of kicks....have you ever tried throwing a kick at a target thats 6 inches away from you ?.....he WANTS distance because he fights off the opponents momentum the Aldo ko being the perfect example......wait for the lunge,half step back and time the momentum......its pretty basic stuff that he does very well BUT.....a boxer wont allow him that space...........Mayweather is a phenomenal defensive fighter who has fantastic instinctive reactions but from 6 inches not 6 feet......hence he wont give him 6 feet.I don't know if a mma fighter would want to hold distance or not that would be down to the fighter on the night you said a mma fighter only fights at a distance which is ridiculous mcgregor is a well rounded world class fighter I'm sure he would be capable of fighting on the inside. Mayweather relies on the clinch when he's hurt or needs to get his breath he clinches and frustrates the other fighter that won't work with mcgregor that's the difference in the reasons they do things and mayweathers reasons won't work with mcgregor
You keep saying Mcgregor wont let Mayweather do his thing......what makes you think Mayweather will let Mcgregor do his thing........or like i said does this boxing rookie know something about boxing that De leHoya/Pacquiao/Moseley etc etc
didnt ?
I'm pretty sure mcgregor is capable of training and altering his style for each fight and each fighter something he has done but mayweather does the same thing every fight dance defend and frustrate and frustrating is something mcgregor is better at than mayweather mayweather won't get his six inches because mcgregor would control the fight and when that's happend before mayweather holds something mcgregor is better at also mcgregor is younger mayweather isn't as young as he was and mcgregor is stronger. I don't know what de lehoya pacauiao or Mosley know and I don't know if mcgregor knows something they don't but they all went in to the ring respecting mayweather and mcgregor won't do that
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Why would an mma fighter want to hold distance in a boxing contest he cant kick or take down ?.......how do you know Mcgregor is capable of fighting a boxer in close where the referee will call break if he clinches ?....thats why its ridiculous the reasons for doing things are completely different.they are capable of fighting at a distance in close and on the floor they don't just look to create space mcgregor is more than capable of fighting in close and would tie mayweather in knots if he tried to clinch
I don't know if a mma fighter would want to hold distance or not that would be down to the fighter on the night you said a mma fighter only fights at a distance which is ridiculous mcgregor is a well rounded world class fighter I'm sure he would be capable of fighting on the inside. Mayweather relies on the clinch when he's hurt or needs to get his breath he clinches and frustrates the other fighter that won't work with mcgregor that's the difference in the reasons they do things and mayweathers reasons won't work with mcgregor
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" isn't far behind "....its not even close !......they are the complete opposites of each other in every way mma fighters are looking to create space boxers are looking to close space down the footwork is completely different the movement and mentalities are completely different infact the only thing similar is giving and absorbing punishment its like comparing cricket and tennis because they both use a bat and ball !But top class mma boxing isn't quite on the level as top class boxing but it isn't far behind mma is overtaking all other combat sports and floyds posing won't cut it any more and mcgregor won't stand for it
Personally i dont think Mcgregor would have the power in a boxing ring his punches are all about timing and reacting off his opponents momentum he would be lost fighting up close and point scoring.
Mma fighters are fully rounded fighters they are capable of fighting at a distance in close and on the floor they don't just look to create space mcgregor is more than capable of fighting in close and would tie mayweather in knots if he tried to clinch but I do agree with you on the mentality thing boxers want to pose mma fighters want to fight
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But top class mma boxing isn't quite on the level as top class boxing but it isn't far behind mma is overtaking all other combat sports and floyds posing won't cut it any more and mcgregor won't stand for it
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So do you think Conor Mcgregor knows something about boxing that Pacquiao,De leHoya,Castillo,Moseley,Alvarez,Cotto etc etc didnt know about boxing ?and he won't stand around while mayweather poses like other fighters do and mayweather won't be able to tie him up in the clinches and wait like he does in other fights
Probably not but I think they all fought mayweather fight I don't think mcgregor will he will push mayweather harder than any boxer has before and the clinch that mayweather uses in all his fights when he's in trouble to tie up his opponents will be useless against mcgregor
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I don't see mayweather walking through him just because mgregor fights mma doesn't mean he can't box he's younger stronger and I believe bigger and he won't stand around while mayweather poses like other fighters do and mayweather won't be able to tie him up in the clinches and wait like he does in other fights that's my opinion anyway
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That video is very fishy indeed.Good hare, good bitch, kim.
What can you see? I wonder if it's the same thing as me
What can't I see that is the better question.
The ending was abit suspicious to me the way the dog was stood with the hare and it wasn't panting as hard as you would think I wonder what happend behind that barn
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Ya know what mate I think your right and it's obviously superman