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  1. 17 hours ago, mushroom said:

    First 3 seconds I stopped!

    I've roughed my dogs before now but that was ridiculous. I trained a staffy "stay" by walking her back harshly by the collar, she was a cracking gundog. 

    This dickhead I have now, well he only stays out of sheer spite. Tell him to go play and he makes a fuucking point 😂

    Carrying the dog calmly by the scruff back to the spot it moved from? Then giving it a slap on the arse? 

    You can’t have seen / trainer many gundogs to a high standard if you think that was over the top. 



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  2. 4 hours ago, WILF said:

    Yeah, but it’s better than doing absolutely f**k all isn’t it mate 


    Is it? How is it?

    Next time someone commits a crime somewhere, go out and kick the shit out of someone that had nothing to do with it. 

    Then you can say "well at least we did something"... 


    Is that how it works? At least you did something? Even if the something you did had nothing to do with the issue you have a grievance with... 

  3. 3 hours ago, WILF said:

    They were mate, voluntary or not they are the people making policy.....much like school governors in the UK 



    Except it was nothing to do with policy ... an individual librarian handed out some badges. 

    Two individual teachers did some political stuff in their own spare time. 


    That's not reflective of the school's policy. 

    It had nothing to do with the board. 

  4. 3 hours ago, WILF said:

    At least she said something 


    Is that the standard we are aiming for? 

    If I disagree with a decision I can go and shout at someone who's got absolutely nothing to do with that decision?


    I don't agree with cancel culture myself, shall I go down the local council office and shout at the admin staff who take calls "I paid for your desk!!" 


    How on earth is that going to resolve anything? 

  5. She sounds like a complete nutcase, just throwing out words she thinks are dramatic. 


    Treason isn't an act that a school can do against children.

    No teacher in that school ever told anyone to go out and kill a Police Officer. They had an assignment that was on a hot topic in the USA at the time.  

    "You work for me!", "YOU WORK FOR ME!!"... sounds like one of those numpties that gets pulled over by the Police, then tells the copper they pay their wages. 

    The best response, "I work for nothing doing this... this is a volunteer position!" ... "WELL THEN I PAID FOR THAT PODIUM!" 🤣



    I bet she walked out of there thinking what a great thing she has done, giving them a piece of her mind. One of those people who likes to "put the world right!" 



    Who pays the board? No one ... they're a bunch of volunteers just trying to help the school out 😂





  6. 19 hours ago, fielder said:

    A question about Cockers, how much do they moult in the house? What if you clip them? 


    I have seen it vary massively, with some dogs with very fine coats that hardly moult at all, and others with huge shaggy coats that when they came to visit our home within an hour left hair EVERYWHERE. 


    You shouldn't really have spaniels (or most gundogs) clipped as it ruins the coat. The hair when properly brushed lets air flow between it cooling a dog but stops the sun getting onto the dogs skin. Clipping them lets the sun get onto their skin and they can overheat and get sunburn. 

  7. On 06/03/2021 at 23:37, tatsblisters said:

    Thing is were my wife work's there is no denying they do get quite periods but their is a buzzer system that clients use when in need of attention so it's impossible to take say two half hourly breaks in a 12 hour shift without that break being interrupted. 

    If the buzzer goes then someone else who isn’t on their break needs to respond to it. 

    Tell the manager they need to cover the breaks if there’s no one else working. 

    I don’t work on my breaks if I’m not getting paid. 

    It takes two people to take the piss in a business relationship, them to try it and you to let them. 

  8. I’ve worked through this whole thing. 
    Going into peoples homes and flat out on hospital wards, as well as custody and looking after kids, assessing people who’ve had a breakdown and getting them into mental hospital. And helping kids being abused by their wanker parents. 

    I don’t want no prick to come and tell me what a good job I done. I signed up for it and I’m doing it. 

    My mates a nurse f**k me she hasn’t stopped moaning about it every 5 minutes. I told her to shut the f**k up and quit if she don’t like the job but I think she just enjoys moaning. 

    See a lot of nurses have loved this pandemic. I reckon a lot of them got a Martyr complex. Moan like f**k about how hard done by they are but won’t leave cos they won’t get paid as much to do anything else. 



    Id love a big fat pay rise but so would everyone else in every sector. 

    Wouldn't have minded to say at home for the last 12 months on 80% pay, instead been busier than every and we’ve had a 5 year pay freeze. 

    The nurses are complaining their 1% rise ain’t enough but they had a big pay rise just recently in their last pay deal. The stupid fuckers thought they were going to get 12%

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  9. Depends how big an op it is on the dog.


    Put my old bitch down few months back, Vet wanted to take her back leg off at age 11, I told them wouldn't put her through such a huge op. Doubt she'd have made it through it anyways. 


    PTS, swift and painless, she sat in my arms whilst I blubbed like a little girl :( 

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  10. 12 hours ago, leegreen said:

    FTCH   Pets4Homes, 2 words that shouldn't be in the same sentence.


    You'd be surprised. 

    Lots of pet/working homes don't want well bred dogs. I have seen lads with FTCH bred pups (especially springers) struggling to get the pups sold. 


    People breeding have put out the idea that a dog with a lot of red in the pedigree will be "too hot to handle" and everyone always gets told don't get a dog with too much red. 


    Yet all the top training books and blokes of wise all say get the best bred dog you can get. You'd think a well bred dog would evidence its trainability :D but it seems the people breeding dog's that are complete crap know more and tell people that a well bred dog will be no good. 


    There are a hell of a lot of "working" dogs I have seen that do little more than go for a walk in the countryside. 

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  11. You'd have more luck looking up which Cocker's are FTCH's are messaging the top kennels than asking on a random forum I am afraid. 

    If you don't have any contacts in the trialling words then I think you'll struggle. 



    However I think you'll find it easy enough to get a pup sired by a FTCH, anyone can take a bitch that's garbage to the latest FTCH stud dog and get him thrown over her for a few hundred quid. Try and find a bitch thats been well line bred to a good stud dog, where the bitch is also out of top lines. 

  12. Just watching this video - greyhound racing man, feeding his dog oats and milk in the morning.

    I always thought dogs' can't digest milk? and run best on fats for energy?


    Yet this guy appears to be (Im not into greyhound racing) a bit of a player in the greyhound racing game, so I would think it unlikely he would be doing it wrong? 

    He says 85% what you put into them, can't get it out if you don't put the right stuff in. 


    Dog gets 3+ miles a day walking and a good mixed variety of food.


    I am wondering if feeding similar would also benefit gundogs ... 

  13. Dave Lissett ones are probably the best ones I've ever seen.


    There's a cocker one called working cocker wildside, biggest load of shite I ever seen. Bloke has about 10 what look like show bred cockers, "hunting" about at a slow plod, about 5-6 feet in front of him. If the bird I was hunting was ever that close I would go over and kick it up myself. 


    Nice type of dogif  I suppose your on an estate with 10,000 birds in a woodland and you just want to bumble along bumping them up with your dog ignoring everyone of them. 

    Not really hunting IMO but there we go. 

  14. I would teach a really solid recall, teach the dog you are great fun to be with and do little play games of hunting and obedience for the first 6 months. Get the dog out and about but coming back on recall in lots of different places. 


    I wouldn't do loads and loads of retrieving, especially if you want the dog to go beating. A beating dog flushes game but hardly ever gets sent for a retrieve. I trained my springer like the books etc say, then after a flush he was always looking to go and retrieve that bird. 


    Easier to train a dog to flush and ignore the bird and carry on for the next flush. 


    Joe Irving - Gundogs, Their Learning Chain, is a good book and is a generic book you can use to train your dog to be a good beating dog. A labrador specific book might not be much use because traditionally a lab should walk at heel and only sent to retrieve fallen game. 

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  15. 16 minutes ago, socks said:

    I built block kennels and started off with the dogs in the open on beds but it soon became apparent that in the winter this isn’t nowhere near warm enough. They are now in boxes inside the block kennel. 


    How big are your block kennels mate?? Run size and sleeping box size? 

  16. 5 minutes ago, jessdale said:

    Great post. Anyone that trials/train a spaniel will tell you the best thing that slows down a dog is the dog working/listening to the whistle. A untrained dog will look fast but it’s totally untrained and who would want that ??? If Ireland was the “shangri la” for spaniels why do all the best triallers over there use the same dogs as the rest of the uk ??? The new stuff did not fall from the sky one day it was bred from the old stuff. 


    I have lots of mates over in the UK that are from Ireland as well. Dogs are not seen the same over there as they are in the UK from my experience. They are not seen as babies and kept in houses spoilt and all that crap. 

    I think a lot of those dogs in Ireland are in the kennel, come out to hunt, and then back in the kennel. 



    I know a LOT of people in the UK and more and more of them keeping their "working" dogs inside the house. I am not saying it means they're not workers, but a dog that's in the house has to be trained, have manners etc, otherwise it would do your head in. I am sure this takes the edge off them and dulls down their drive.


    Best way to take the drive out of a nutcase hunting dog, train it! Imagien dog comes out the kennel, hunts, has a retrieve, then back in the kennel, no mucking about nagging it to sit in its bed for 2-3 hours or any other nonsence. 


    When I move house I will be putting in kennels for sure. 

  17. On 28/11/2020 at 14:44, jessdale said:

    I know it’s each person’s own choice of what type of dog they want so I’m not having a go at anyone. If these big heavily marked springers were so good why are they as rare as hens teeth ? Forget trialling dogs for a minute. Surely everyone not into trialling would still have these big heavily marked springers if they were better ? The way I see it is the dogs around now are around because they do the job. Whether it is gundogs/terriers/lurchers/guard dogs it seems everyone wants the old stuff when the dogs we have now are out of the old stuff ! When did old became new ? , it’s the same stuff !


    Ai, if they were so much better then why develop the "new lines"... I know trial lad who had straws off one of the old top sires from the "old stuff" that was massive and apparently hunted like hell. 

    He also had a modern bred dog at same time running alongside it. 


    He sold off the old style bred pup, he said the modern pup not only hunted faster and had more style, it hunted just as hard, hit cover just as well and was easier to train to handle and retrieve. 

    I think people can look back at the "old type" and romanticise about them, without having to run them side by side against modern dogs. 


    I also ran my modern trial bred dog against two "old type" springers at a mock trial. One of them missed a retrieve, they reckon it 100% ran on no way the old type dog would have missed it. I ran my modern type dog on 5 yards and he picked the bird up sat on the floor where the dog had run over it several times ... 


    My modern trial bred dog is not an out and out cover basher, however I suspect some of that might be the way I brought him up. I have another trial bred pup coming on and he is looking better. I will seen what he is like by next season. 


    In future when I have kennels and space I'll try and get a dog over from Ireland from these apparent hunt all day without any stopping, smash f**k out of thick bramble for no reward at all type of line bred dogs. I would like to see how they compare. I notice on the Rough Shooting Ireland youtube video's the dog's absolutely do hunt like animals flat out in thick cover, but they're hardly trained, they're not trained to sit to flush, shot, or fall, they charge through cover, often at times with the guns sprinting down the field so they remain in range to get a shot at the bird. I wonder if it's more the fact that the training is just hunt, run in and pick and carry on that brings on that driven to hunt and go? 

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  18. 23 minutes ago, Wideboy said:

    The dogs soon realise that the game is inside the cover not outside, a few flushes and the penny drops. I never had a problem with them continuously hunting cover. 


    I've got a trial bred springer, he will smash the hardest cover in the world if he thinks there's game inside, but he won't go in for nothing. I reckon he missed game on days with poor scenting conditions when he can't smell if there's a bird inside cover or if the area of cover is massive. 





  19. On 13/11/2020 at 18:08, Wideboy said:

    The shite they have to go through all day. I’ve been in plenty of shoot in Scotland and a couple in England and none of them where anywhere like rough shooting in Ireland. Dogs have to hunt unforgiving cover over here for woodcock. It’s a lot of hunting for little return. On some days my gundogs can’t open their eyes as they are swollen near shut, their ears are cut to shreds and they can’t rest easy because the pain in their feet from thorns. I have only experienced this in Ireland. I worked my dogs more in UK. 
    The grouse moods are hard on a bitches nipples.

    No offence taken, this is what I’ve seen with my own two eyes. 


    They must be some dogs over in Ireland, just from what I seen hunting thick punishing cover with not a lot of reward.

    I do have to ask, what they do to train dogs to get inside and hunt that sort of cover, considering they are going in for hours on end with hardly any flush ... 

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