i bought some off the lad that was selling them on here, i have allways had a few in the bottom of the trap bag since, handy for tight spots, under flags, kerb edges, tree roots etc, i took the plunge and decided to do the last job using nothing but the putangs i was impressed with them, no traps full of soil, nearly all the traps caught, one fault [ my own] is you are fcked if you leave the setter in the van half a mile away.