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2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:
filth said to me if your not in control of your dog and it chases and kills a mammal it’s classed as a dangerous dog
could a been talking shite like
Like to see that one stick in court
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3 hours ago, whitefeet4190 said:
They will make the lurcher a band breed like the pit bull soon
f**k sake I hate this shit hole of a country we live in
I've said it for a while now.......that message.....if you see a man with a lurcher in a van or 4x4 call 999 ......... imagine saying,if you see a black guy with a bull terrier in a BMW ......
....talk about selective policing.
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1 hour ago, OldPhil said:
Yeah,.. I think as the years roll by, the feeding regime changes alongside...
Its crazy, but when I was lamping most nights, and catching plenty of game, I fed the dogs on a pretty poor diet..
They still did ok, and I often wonder if I was just lucky, or would the jukels have taken more quarry, if I had fed them a superior food?
Most nights,.. were Vitalin nights
Unbelievable, Muesli style shite,...but there ya go,.. we knew no better, and the dogs ran spot on...
Nowadays, I only keep companion dogs, wee Mouchers,.. and we rarely catch much, so I feed what comes my way, and I don't get too serious about it.
Lol .....My family had an animal feed business and in the 70/80s we used to sell loads of Vitalin or Wilson's, both were muesli type feeds ........ plenty of rabbits were caught on it
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11 minutes ago, tank34 said:
Raw mine get £15 , £20 a box 30lb , MC kennels bradford
Yes Pal I use him , good meat and good service
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12 minutes ago, Bangersanmash said:
I buy a bag of dry from local farm shop that costs me just short of a tenner. My old man has used it since I was a kid over 30 odd years it's for greyhound an working dogs clear 15kg bag an raw meat a quid each chicken an beef. A buy 20 an he throws me 5 in last me a month for 2 dogs.
I have been involved with greyhounds nearly 40 years and still feed traditional as I remember seeing trainers cooking a massive stew at the kennels
.....I use pasta rice tripe , mince,sardines and obviously what they are catching,RHD , supplements,I really rate seeweed powder,cod liver oil and occasionally natural yoghurt for the gut ...... he's looking ok on it anyway
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I won't buy Red Mills on principal since they buckled to the antis and pulled out of their sponsorship of greyhound racing .....they sell to the industry but don't agree with it???? how's that work .
Last time I used it my dogs were like toast racks after lamping,lost weight whilst running......it's meant for greyhounds running 30 seconds not lurchers lamping 2/3 hours
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I lost all respect for the police a few years ago when I caught a burglar in my street, but because he was caught on the lawn ,drunk , they only charged him with drunk and disorderly.....I refused to attend court over such a petty charge,and was told that I was going to be charged with contempt of court,a far more serious charge than the burglar was on
......I said you better charge me then , after several attempts to scare me they backed off and he got fined £200 ........you couldn't make it up
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1 hour ago, OldPhil said:
In my opinion, that Officer is an embarrassment to his profession..
Considering the awful crimes that are being committed, day in, day out,.. what actual policing work did he do ?
Ah yes, he found out that a working dog had not been injected, with an identity chip!
The remainder of his amazing capture, was childishly easy..
The trespasser freely admitted to the offence and caused him no problems...
Why not save all the paperwork, and simply tell him to gather up his ferrets and nets, and get the feck off the land...
What must his colleagues think of him....
Yes, I know the Law is the Law,.. but c'mon now...FFS!
Phil ,I used the same word when I posted my disgust on their page earlier..... embarrassment!!!
Then the patronising words that you don't need to take one for the pot nowadays as food is easily available
....... since when do Cheshire police decide that you only feed yourself in the Tesco as they say so.?
If you trespass on land to ferret you get nicked but you can trespass all over private land wearing a balaclava on the weekend call yourself a hunt monitor and at the worst you get asked to leave... Selective policing at its finest, probably due to the fact most lurcher work is done by white, working class males , not a minority group of immigrants, asylum seekers, statue topplers or trans genders
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1 hour ago, Bangersanmash said:
Its a catch 22 pal. You get the majority that have gone from poaching to permission turn into drips. It's like they've never poached before an would go out of there way to ring law if they see anyone poaching or kick off. I've never wanted permission mate because you have to keep up your expectations an do what the land owner wants. I'm wanting to get on the land an off with no worries. Not thinking f**k me I'm guna have a run in with game keeper which many do who have permission. I know keepers that have shot all quarry on the land just to stop lads who have permission coming on keepers going on like it's there land then lads with permission thinking it's there's to much head ache for me. A like to get up have a spin an off home or to Cafe for a bite to eat an a cuppa. When your hunting on these big estates you an keepers are in each others pockets an way of each other both have something to prove. The keeper doesn't want lurchers running round his birds an scaring them if there's a shoot on day after or lads don't want keepers an gun men shooting day before or keepers doing his rounds on a night with lamp checking up before lads go lamping. An a know lads have traveled many miles an turn up with no quarry has they've been ghosted. With me am on that land quarry I go for live on top of the sod so i don't have that stress so am good so a don't need permission. A don't go over to Lincolnshire much any more as its not like it used to be numbers are down an it's too hot. But i do go on decent land over east Yorkshire an can say the quarry are as good there than up Lincoln if not better. I've taken lads who've just run Lincolnshire an said these are decent ----
test the dogs to there abilities
I know what you mean about the keepers pal ....We were given permission by a landowner, he's the President at my son's rugby club,to lamp rabbits after the shooting season was over,we had to let the keeper know a few hours before we went on the land,no problems we did .
We respected the land, never did anything wrong, but the keeper then decides to start shooting them with his rifle although he'd never bothered before, meaning a few weeks sport lasted only a couple.
This season he doesn't answer our calls and ignored my son's offer to go beating with him , obviously doesn't like lurcher lads but not got the balls to tell us ....... but ironically we got permission a few miles away where his boss leases some of the land to put sheep on and the quarry is more varied
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28 minutes ago, Bosun11 said: We were 'bounced' by the CA and field sports almost the day after we marched for them... And i made EVERY march.
Then they sort of forgot about us for a few years... BUT we didn't do ourselves any favours either..!
Feck them, the CA & shooters will get their 'comeuppence' soon enough... Their clock is running thin now anyway. I can't wait 'NOT' to give them any support.
I'm 54, never had one written scrap of permo, never really wanted one. Played the 'great game' before and played it forever after. Makes not a jot of difference to me, never seen it any other way...
If ye can't 'nip on and nip off' without making a fuss, your a piss poor poacher anyway and you'll be fecked...
Spot on Bosun ......The problem was each section of country sports went their own way, shooting and fishing didn't want to know us and ironically they will both be the next one's to get stitched up ,fox hunting were shameful in their behaviour,dog lads were hung out to dry and used as a bargaining tool ....... like you I'm 55 never had any permission, but proud to say have never smashed anything up never stole anything, just ran my dog and went home , even had a copper stop me one night and ask if I had a spare rabbit.......how different it was then
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1 hour ago, chartpolski said:
Tim Bonner: Poaching, the Hunting Act and why the hare is the loser
WWW.COUNTRYSIDE-ALLIANCE.ORG
The Countryside Alliance's Chief Executive, Tim Bonner, discusses recent action from the Government on tackling hare poachers.Cheers.
Absolutely correct.........I can't think of one positive point to come out of the Hunting Act,foxes and hares have been slaughtered in thousands by guns since 2005 ,hares in particular and without the ban no where near the amount would have been shot.
Hunts are still out, even though most antis thought that they would fold overnight, coursing is now a war zone on land that was once looked after by keepers and coursing clubs, the list goes on ..... apart from winning the"class" war as they think , the bigots behind it have achieved nothing.
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7 minutes ago, Greb147 said:
Isn't there a petition or anything?
They ignored nearly 500k of us that marched around London years ago,a petition won't alter anything.
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6 minutes ago, Greb147 said:
What's the odds of it not getting passed, slim to none?
With Boris married to a raving anti who was behind the Animal Welfare Bill it's an absolute certainty to get passed....... sadly
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1 minute ago, Havelightforcewilltravel said:
My youngest 5 this month dog daft and it hurts me to know he will never do anything a done whippet racing nearly over greyhound s in funny situation and lurcher work on its knees he is super keen but by time he old enough it be done and dusted a think or the penalty s will be very very harsh.
Yes Pal I agree with you, very sad indeed, remember nearly 20 years ago now, the teacher asked my son what he had been doing at the weekend,he said ferreting, she told him he was cruel .......that type of stuff has been drilled into kids from schools that it's wrong by teachers with left wing agendas..... instead they sit at computers playing games of killing people or stealing cars etc
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10 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:
Here’s a question ? One of the big issues is folk leaving stuff behind. Has that always happened so much or do you just hear about it more now ?
Nothing worse than wasting what you catch , but I can understand lads not driving 100 miles back home with a boot full of hares ,deer .
The punishment now out weighs the crime these days ......you can be driving a car full of quarry home and lose your driving license,drive the get away car away from a robbery you keep your license
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41 minutes ago, dogmandont said:
It's all but over for average lurcher owners, sure there'll be the die hards that will carry on regardless but normal lads that made up the majority are getting out of the game for one reason or another and there's very little younguns coming into it and who could blame them, in my local area there would of been at least 10 lads that kept lurchers some also kept terriers but now it's me and a mate and what we have now will be our last. Times are changing and not for the better when you can get locked up for coursing a hare but walk free for having 4000 indecent pictures of kids..
The whole things fcukin backwards.
Spot on sadly pal .......My family had an animal feed business,made good money,70s to 2000 but once the steelworkers,miners etc died ,kids stopped keeping pigeons, lurchers etc ,you could see things were never going to be the same again......... I've had running dogs of some kind,40odd years, my son is out 2/3 nights per week with men my age 50/60 but when they go I think my lads age group will be the very last lot to work lurchers........at least I can go to my grave knowing I raised him without a PlayStation as we were too busy with the dogs , rugby and boxing
........sad times we now live in .
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The CA should sit and study the video's from the marches , the thousands of lurcher lads, coursing men who backed them , not to mention the dog lads who had their heads split from police batons ,I didn't see many huntsmen or whipper ins getting stuck in ,CA you sold us out big time you are worse than the antis .
As for the police,they need to educate the public in what is legal and what isn't and stop telling them to call 999 if they see a lad with a lurcher in the countryside in a van or 4x4 .
Would they tell the public to call 999 if they saw a black man in a BMW with a bull terrier????
More attempts to rid Britain of anything of tradition , unless London likes it .
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28 minutes ago, dytkos said:
Man's a gent in my dealings with him. Darcy, not Jo Ox
Cheers, D.
Always found him ok ,had a problem with PayPal and he even sent books before payment cleared..... your never popular when you, have permission, regardless of who you are out with,he's been there done it and took the pictures,
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My dogs never come in the house....... Never fancied cuddling up on the sofa with 40kg of bull X
,so the least I can do is jacket up the bitch anyway, the dog won't wear one....As I have been involved with greyhounds for years too ,I just find it natural to jacket a dog after exercise anyhow, keep a dog warm and it will recover quickly after its been working, keeping weight loss and injury to a minimum.
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Makes me smile when lads on permission admittedly have been posting pictures since August of 40/50s of rabbits, shot hares etc, running on hard ground, in warm weather and folks are telling them how good they are???
Never had an ounce of permission in 40 years but never damaged or stole property and if confronted, apologise and leave yet are looked down on by some folks who's aim is to get as many pictures on Facebook as possible of their summer adventures.
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My family ran an animal feed business for a long time and didn't take me long to realise that it was the same small group of men who had the best livestock no matter what they kept, when they kept lurchers their dogs were top class, pigeons, they won everything, trotting horses, won everything again etc.
On getting to know them, I realised that they only used, tried and tested lines, fed the best possible feed, and most importantly, didn't keep hold of an average animal whilst kidding themselves that they could make it a world beater.
I don't know him personally but AS is a good example of these men, dominated the coursing world with Dancer, Blondie etc, did very well with trotters and i believe now is top table with spaniels in the Field Trials game....... Its not just a coincidence.
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Don't know how old the dog doing the biting is but I have a 14 month old lurcher pup here who is always doing it to the older bitch, seems to be just a stage hes going through, wouldn't worry to much, its instinct to pull quarry down, be firm, pull her away, tell her no.... It will pass.... The dog will put her in her place if needed.
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1 hour ago, Greb147 said:
True but breeding is about consistency.
Spot on pal..... It amazes me how people still hold onto the dream that any two animals can consistently throw top class animals....... Do the Arabs take their classic winning mares to Old Bobs gypsy cob down the road
.... Why waste your money going to Frankel...... Good breeding takes a long time to obtain in your kennels, stables etc.
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Its a myth that a proven stud dog will consistently throw class pups out of an average bitch, yes, you will get the odd one, but overall you will get more wastage.
A multiple Derby winning greyhound trainer once told me that the bitch was more important than the stud and when you study the data, especially in greyhounds he is right, no guarantee with any breeding but you can move the odds in your favour a little.
Its no coincidence that some, and there's not many of them, men, breed champions when they keep dogs, horses, canaries, pigeons etc, because they consistently use the best available.
Who's actually got a lurcher?
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My two,half X's ,half brother and sister too .... bitch was out last night and this morning we have a restocked freezer
