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  6. New Project

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    6 hours ago, leegreen said:

    You seen a bird fly a Hare?  A battle yes I agree, but chasing the fastest animal in the cuntry for a 10/20 seconds chase at most isn't giving the quarry it's best chance.

    The bird on bird thing is, I think the most sporting and fairly matched. A good Pheasant that can ditch in cover, or a heavy fast duck taken by a Falcon is pretty spectacular. 

    I'm not say that catching rabbits isn't great action, because it is. It just seems easy, "if" you know what you're doing and Moorman, you seen to have sussed it. Well done geezer.

    I find the David and Goliath struggle of a bird taking a hare approx 4 times it's  weight a huge challenge. That's why a lot of wild hawks learn the hard way and won't take on a hare. It is a big ask.

    With all forms of falconry it's down to the human element to set up sporting slips. Don't slip on a hare in it's form or stand by the hole when ferreting or slip on game birds on the ground. Stand back and get someone to flush the game and slip when in motion at a decent distance. Watching a hawk take game in it's natural surroundings under sporting conditions is what it's all about.

    Oh and yes I have taken hares with hawks.

    Thanks!

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    30 minutes ago, leegreen said:

    I've seen Goshawks nail rabbits one after another and if the rabbit make 50m, it did well. With Hares as you said, the main feat is hanging on to them. That is unless the Hare has been flown before and it knows what is coming. then they're hard to catch.

    As a dog man, I cringe a how easy a Hawk makes a capture. As skilful and elegant it is, I call it mugging ?.

    "A waste of a good Hare" , I heard it described as.

    I still enjoy a few hours out with the birds and go as often as my spare time allows me to.

    I would have to say that its down to the person flying the hawk to make the flight sporting. How anyone can say its a waste of a good hare is ludicrous. A hawk of an average two to three pond in weight against a fit hare that would weigh eight pound on average, how can that be unsporting!

    Muggings do happen when tree flying but ferreting in woods or open hill country is excellent sport, if you engineer the slips correctly.

    Everyone to their own I suppose!

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    11 hours ago, Bangersanmash said:

    Nice kill but lucky there's no injuries with that loose sheep wire on that fence post. That could of been a trip to an avian vet mate. Needs moving that if you hunt that area often ? ? Well done though ? 

    There are hazards everywhere to be honest, he hit a fence flat out last week stopped him instantly. Fly a hawk is full of hazards, electricity poles, fences etc. I'm afraid it's one of them if it happens it happens.

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    3 hours ago, Bangersanmash said:

    A friend of mine bred them big birds the males were good sizes too. It all depends on the grub for giving the females when feeding the young too. Some out there just give little grub just to get the birds to age and sell on mate then some breed for there selfs like in dog world. See what's what feed them the best then let go what there not keeping back. But you'll see many forsale nowa days. Same with dog game anybody's buying them. Then your seeing some forsale that have been ruined mate it's sad. Lads get them thinking it's going to be a walk in the park. Lol it's not easy it takes time as you'll know 

    You only get out what you put in, that's true!

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  12. New Project

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    1 hour ago, Bangersanmash said:

    Its great sport for the hawk on the back of a hare when its riding it ? ?. You have to have a brave hawk an a clever hawk that just goes straight for the head but that will come in time. More kills for the bird better confidence build up. Years ago I had a female Harris that could smash hares up she was some bird 3lb 2oz 

    I have never heard of a Harris that big we had birds direct from the superior imports and they would take hare at 2lb 10oz and they were a decent size. That's some bird!

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    21 hours ago, leegreen said:

    Do you get much of a chase out of them Squirrels? Rabbits are a bit point and shoot with a Hawk and I always found Hares a bit unsporting.

    Yes the squirrel flights can be very spectacular at times as they are three dimensional. You sound like a hard man to please. I think rabbit flights can be very sporting if set up correctly, as for hares I think they are a very big ask even eagles struggle to subdue them when captured. Especially if you consider the average weight of a hare compared to a hawk.

    20 hours ago, leegreen said:

    Not read all of your thread, but how much does that bird weigh?

    He weighs approx 1lb 11oz

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    14 hours ago, Bangersanmash said:

    Great read nice to see a finished bird after all the work put into manning the birds , then getting them trained to fur an feather. Then after all the work the pleasure of seeing the bird naturally hunt down the quarry well done mate credit where it's due ? ? 

    Thanks very much. It's much like bring on a pup and watching it develop and learning its trade. Thats where the satisfaction lies for me!

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    1 minute ago, Daniel cain said:

    enjoy popping into this thread,one of the best on here...and long may it continue ?

    Thanks very much, it's appreciated. I'm glad that a few boys enjoy it cheers!

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    22 hours ago, Moocher71 said:

    One of the best threads I've read on here in a long time , amazing stuff 

    Well done ?

    Thank you, very much appreciated ?

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