[Whippet x Stag? Whippet Deer/Grey?]

1 hour ago, C.green said:

No need to get defensive feller wasnt judging. Ive found alot of bull greyhound here are kept too heavy and trimmed down they have enough speed but do fade if goes on abit. Bull and greyhounds top of the tree when we talk canine athletes

You’re right, I apologize.  
 

My bull grey is a decent all around athlete with good feet.  (He ran a full marathon next to me on leash), he just doesn’t quite have the top end I need for the job I’m after. 

[Whippet x Stag? Whippet Deer/Grey?]

5 hours ago, C.green said:

Have you tried keeping the dog on the lean side ? 

I absolutely hate a fat dog.   I keep my dogs extremely lean and take conditioning seriously.  That wasn’t the problem.  50% box-dog just slows down the lurcher. 

[Whippet x Stag? Whippet Deer/Grey?]

Ijf, 

I have a APBTxGrey right now.  Both parents were accomplished in their own right.  I bred him when I was running deer and hogs.  He was a failed experiment.  He wasn’t really game enough for a big boar (he’s caught plenty of sow and shoats), and although I’ve had success with him on deer, I’d catch much more if he were faster.  
 

There are no coyote in my part of the state.  They’ll be here eventually but not yet.  Fox are fast but don’t take much of a dog to kill.  I’ve owned hunting dogs for a long time, just haven’t ventured into longdogs much.

I haven’t seen a Staghound yet that didn’t disappoint me with their speed compared to a greyhound.  The Stags I’ve seen aren’t much faster than my bull-grey, and he’s not fast enough.  

[Whippet x Stag? Whippet Deer/Grey?]

5 hours ago, shaaark said:

There's a guy on you tube, can't mind his name now. Has bred a couple of litters exactly how you say, dam generation bred platts 28tts deer/grey, sire 22tts pure wippet. Looked cracking. There was footage of one of the pups 16 months old, at a track somewhere over 400 metres I think, looked plenty fast enough.

Hope that's of some help?

You tube

Dave's deerhound lurcher pups

I’ve seen these videos and want a dog like his.  Can anyone put me in touch with this guy?  

[Whippet x Stag? Whippet Deer/Grey?]

The US Staghounds for Coyote that I’ve seen were huge and gave up a lot of speed compared to greyhounds.  I’m sure they are rougher for yotes and have more stamina than a greyhound.  For where I’m at, and the terrain I’m hunting, speed is more important than endurance and you don’t need a very rough dog for rabbit,  fox or deer. 

[Whippet x Stag? Whippet Deer/Grey?]

Help

I’m looking for a pup to meet my needs.  I will be hunting rabbit, fox, and deer.  I will be hunting pastures and easements.  I need something with EXTREME speed for hunting cow-fields and horse-fields in Pennsylvania.  If the deer make it to the woods, they are gone. We don’t have miles of giant fields like the Staghound guys do out west for running coyote.  
 

Does anyone produce Whippet x Staghound crosses?  
Can anyone show any video of Dave Platts “English Deerhounds” actually working? 
Would a purebred Greyhound be too fragile for field work? 

[Dogs that DID deer!!!]

I’ve seen different dogs do it different ways, but it doesn’t take much of a dog to stop a deer once they get a hold of it. I’ve seen a 45lb 6month old pup grab one by the achiles and get the deer stopped. As much as I’ve read about deer putting up a fight I’ve never personally seen it. Every deer I’ve seen caught just dragged the dog as far as it could before it fell over and waited to die.

[Looking for a Lurcher in the States]

I got my dog from a person named Adam Grant. He has deerhound/greyhound X's, bull/greyhound X's and I believe some whippet/deerhounds. I am not sure what he has at the moment but shoot me an email and I will reply with his contact info. matturban12@gmail.com

 

Where are you located? I'm in Pennsylvania but Adam is from MO.

[First Lurcher Hunting Questions]

Sounds a good dog mate, I will pm you my email and you can send me some pics.

 

 

Email Sent. I sent you 5 pictures.

 

The first two are of him on a very much alive doe we snuck up on in a soccer field.

 

The third one was when he was about 6 months old, we took him pig hunting and soon after I cut him loose I heard a squeal…soon afterward he came out of the reeds and dropped this piglet at my feet.

 

The fourth pic is of a larger boar we caught during that hunting trip. I was upset with Rooster because he wouldn’t catch the pig, he ran at it and stopped it by grabbing the rear-end but then let go and backed up and barked. I normally wouldn’t have a use for a dog that does that but I thought I might try to use him as a lurcher for other stuff.

 

The last pic, (not a very good one) was taken about 2 months ago when he was 7 months old. It is just to give you an idea of his build. Sorry I don’t have one of him closer.

[First Lurcher Hunting Questions]

You need to leave him to mature abit mate, another cupple of months won't hurt will it?

 

I suppose your right and it wouldn't hurt to sit on him for a few more months. I am so used to having to drive 5 hours to go hunting I've been excited that I had a dog I could run game with near my house.

 

If someone wants to show me how to post pictures I can show you what he looks like and post pics of a deer and a piglet he caught. If its better I don't post pics like that here I can email them.

 

Interestingly enough, although I've never taught him to retrieve he seems to do that naturally. The first time I took him pig hunting he brought a live baby piglet right to my hands.

[First Lurcher Hunting Questions]

I think he is abit to young to be on fox. But each to there own.

 

 

When you say he is too young do you mean because they are too fast for him, or because he may not be mature enough to take getting bit by one, or becasue he doesn't have the focus yet for a long chase? I am sorry if this seems like a lot of dumb questions, I am just used to a very different type of dog and I am used to getting puppies started early.

[First Lurcher Hunting Questions]

My experience is with dogs for boar hunting. I am familiar with bulldog and pit type breeds as well as hound and cur crosses.

 

I decided to experiment and see if a pit x greyhound would make a less dog aggressive running catchdog that is able to stop those running hogs. My pup is 9 months old and about 60lbs. For a hog dog he seems a little soft for the task, just isn’t anywhere near as gritty as the pits I’m used to.

 

I decided to see if I can use him for running rabbit and fox because there are plenty of them around here. I bought a fox call and to my surprise it worked like a charm. After about 15 minutes I spotted a fox and it came to within about 30 meters of me. I released Rooster and he took off after it. He got to the point where it looked like he was right on top of it but he was never actually able to get a hold of it and it got away.

 

Being half pit, is he going to be too slow for me to expect much out of him or are fox and rabbit game he should be able to catch?

 

If anyone has any tips for me about how I can best bring him along they would be much appreciated. He already consistently comes when I call and listens really well off leash…I just am wondering how I can best make a lurcher out of him.