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  1. Sorry for the delayed response, busy still and dont come on here much. Joe, I'll get some recent pics sent to you when I get some time. Haven't really had much chance to go out with others, but a few months back we had a day driving foxes and he got lucky and jumped one and the dogs had a wee run in among some tight bramble and it slipped out - (towards the guns) :)

    Navek, I got some raccoons treed with the gwp in Canada. She took to the job very easily, and treed good enough for me to locate (but a bit loose compared to a good treed dog). The cur dog will be great for this if I get him treeing, but he is all about tracking right now. He is bred from dogs that make decent tree dogs for coon. I think he will be better used for bear rather than coon, as he has so much drive and likes a looong run, and a fight.

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  2. OK, update on big pup...

     

    Hey if I compared him to a collie, I was wrong, he might handle easy, but not like responsive like a collie or spaniel, he likes to look at me when I call him, and then carry on doing things his way, stubborn maybe, but independent and likes to weigh the job up and react in his own time, but still working with me and for me if that makes any sense to you lol. Hunting has escalated from him keeping up with the terriers bushing rabbits, to him hunting so hard and fast that even the gwp struggles to keep up. He dont want to quit a track, he wants a kill and has made several now. Ive seen the pointer make a quick loss and he lifts his head, drifts the land, and away, all flat out. Windblow slows him down, where the gwp hammers it, but he is the head dog now, as he moves a track and picks up the losses quicker as he can plant his nose right down and plod it out, like when the game runs a road for a ways.

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  3. Hi Roy, I grew up hunting with a collie dog, and in many ways he works the land in a similar fashion to a collie, independent enough to cast out but working with me all the time.They have a character all their own though. He follows the wirehair and they should make a good team as they hunt similar. He's getting pretty confident now and was hard to catch up today after a rabbit hunt, he was so fired up, was like seeing the old bull cross the way he was smashing through the rhododendrons with the wirehair. He can move a hot track away at some pace, and he yips and squalls... I'd say he is pretty hot nosed but older scent gets him excited and casting for the game. Im happy with his progress, and im excited to see how he works out with boar hunting.

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  4. My partner brought him back from the other side of the pond,

     

     

    Been having some good hunting as Ive been snowed off work....but the snow really hinders the hare so much that Ive been heading down the glen to lower wooded slopes that hold a few rogue populations of rabbits and hunting them instead.

     

    I try not to kill many of these bunnies, as I dont have much land that holds rabbits up here, but when the snow is deep like this up the hill the hares are no good to run and have enough to worry about with the foxes we have.

     

    We dont have masses of thick brambles here in the woods, but theres a bit about. In general, the ground cover is sparse and patchy, its a case of covering a lot of land and hoping to find something sat out in cover. There are scattered warrens and rocky spots that offer safe refuge. The pup is getting sharp and he even made a catch the other day as the pointer was marking one in some brambles, I walked in and egged her on to flush it, it ran out straight at him. Was a nice bit of luck, it all helps bring them on. He knows what the pointer is doing now, and heads in her direction as soon as he sees her pointing. He has flushed a fair share of 'her' woodcock now lol and will watch it fly off and not chase, looking proud of himself.

     

    Most of the rabbit hunts are taking place under the trees, and the rabbits dont get the advantage of running over open ground here, its all steep and rough. The gwp has had 2 nice hunts recently both ending in a catch. I fancy her chances of catching a rabbit in most of the places I hunt them, if the rabbit doesnt get to ground fast. But most of the time its down a hole within 200 yards and I no longer have a ferret to honour their mark. They never sicken though as we have many days with no catch and lots of miles!, We catch enough to put a bit in the freezer now n then, but Id rather see a good hunt, and the game lives to run another day, than an easy kill with no good running...

     

    I like the chance to hunt rabbits like this when I can, its sharpened them up a bit as the rabbit hunt is fast and reactions need to be instant, its helped with their team work working closer to me and taking hand signals etc... Id like to find a bit of ratting soon, the pointer loves a bit of ratting and is as hard mouthed as a big terrier with them... she will bring a live rabbit to me though, and is very soft with feather. From what Ive seen of the pup so far, he will be hardish... once he has something in his jaw its locked down, he is not soft mouthed at all and has almost no retrieve in him with other dogs around.

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  5. Thats not exactly true that they are a different breed, some might have changed somewhat as almost no-one in the UK will keep DD as you need to go and do all the testing/registering. My gwp is mainly Danish lines, for blood tracking, and they are all bred from German VDD stock. Theres loads of VDD stock being bred as GWP in the UK.

    I'd say buying from the VDD registered stock can be a very good idea, but no need to overlook good working bred lines in the UK as they are just as good, but you do need to be more careful. The good thing about the VDD is that your better guaranteed that your getting a dog bred from good stock. The German working breed system is an excellent example of a breeding plan that everyone involved in the breed is encouraged to follow to ensure that its functionality is never lost through shitty breeding practices.

     

    As far as I know, no-one has tried to breed the gwp lurcher as a line/strain, which in my opinion is a must if your going to see the best out of this type.

     

    The first cross to a running dog, is not going to be consistent. Some pups might lack speed, others might lack nose etc

     

    By breeding the best to the best of these crosses, its possible to produce a lurcher type with all the desired attributes of a gwp ... ideally several folk will get on the case with this...

     

    I will breed a litter out of my gwp at some stage, and Ive decided on using the Tigger dog that MIK kindly offered. I'd be pretty confident that most of the pups will be fast enough to add plenty to the bag when hunting up game, but its likely if they were used as a point n slip, or solely as a lamping dog on big fields some would be lacking in speed, but in any case, there is not much point keeping the gwp lurcher if your just pointing and slipping or lamping, though they are rough and ready sorts that are happy to try anything, They are best used for hunting and mooching, mainly. And do very well on bigger game and teeth.

     

    I lamp with my pure, and we catch allsorts its good fun and she is super obedient, but her nose is the stronger sense, the eyes are less important to a gwp lol

     

    Good hunting

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  6. My partner brought him back from the other side of the pond, they have several breeds that they group as 'curs' but they are pure bred dogs for working ranched cattle, or hogs. Several strains are bred for hunting, mine is out of dogs that work boar and also tree coons. He is a good dog to have around the place already. I let my GWP teach him all about hunting wee bit at a time, just trying to keep the sessions short and positive, training and stock breaking has gone pretty well so far. Looking forward to finishing him out, just taking it steady and hunting him very lightly, still some knuckle on him but he has some energy and if he dont go hunting he gets restless and will bay up the dogs or whoever's about, lots of instinct in him. Great feet on him. He's already my friend so I hope he makes a good one lol

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  7. I would imagine one of these gwp could clear a wood to waiting running dogs or guns ??

    They love this job!

     

    Edit to add: But worth remembering that they hunt silently, and at a gallop! They also work great with other dogs to do this job as a team.

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  8. That looks a nice breeding above. All the best with them, I like to see workers top n bottom, and they look like workers! :thumbs:

     


    I'm thinking about lining my GWP female to a big fast sighthound based lurcher thats a proven producer. If I go ahead, there might be one or two pups wanting homes. They will suit the role of a hunting/mooching lurcher. I hunt the fells and moors. Both parents are very well tested. The sire has had a long and very productive working life.

    They will suit big game, where legal. I hunt deer/boar/fox/hare mostly, with some rabbit/squirrel/game-birds.

     

    In the future it would be exciting to keep in touch with other gwp based lurcher owners, to establish a best-to-best line breeding program, as I reckon this type of lurcher is going to be very well suited to the all-round hunter that requires a robust dog with endless stamina, great feet/coat, great scenting powers for finding and trailing, and being very obedient and easy to handle.

    I wont be charging for pups, but they will only be going to the right homes, as they will require a lot of hunting!

     

    Good hunting :victory:

     

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    Well, appart from all those very elusive big black panthers roaming the wilds, they are talking aboot re-introducing Lynx to several forested areas of the UK including my local Kielder forest.

    Good times.

    You still got your gwp?
    Yes sir!

     

     

    Well, appart from all those very elusive big black panthers roaming the wilds, they are talking aboot re-introducing Lynx to several forested areas of the UK including my local Kielder forest.

    Good times.

    You still got your gwp?
    Yes sir!
    That would be some experience .

     

     

    She has hunted raccoons and done ok, and she trees on squirrel when Im hunting them a bit in the autumn. House cats too :ninja:

     

    I have a friend who trees the odd bobcat he comes across with his gwp in the States, if his dog finds one, or hits a fresh track.

     

    But if you wanted to catch cats regularly, or with any degree of success, you would need some cold trailing ability in your dog, as they cover some ground so you could be trailing 1-2 day old tracks for some time before the cat jumps, cats dont have all that much stamina for running once they are going, not like a good fox, but with cold trailing the hunt could easily stretch to 5 or even 10+ miles depending on how far the cat has travelled. This is too far from the handler for most pointers, in my opinion. Marking or treeing ability is also essential, and I see many pointers with natural ability here.

     

     

    I have a terrier that trees good too, Id love to try her on coons, but that will have to wait.... Good hunting!

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    Well, appart from all those very elusive big black panthers roaming the wilds, they are talking aboot re-introducing Lynx to several forested areas of the UK including my local Kielder forest.

    Good times.

    You still got your gwp?

     

    Yes sir!

  11. Well, appart from all those very elusive big black panthers roaming the wilds, they are talking aboot re-introducing Lynx to several forested areas of the UK including my local Kielder forest.

    Good times.

     

     

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  12. I think he was a grew of about 23 - 24 tts, and speaking to the lads who used him, they said they were very happy with the pups he produced, as they were looking to inject some pace and they deffo got it.

     

    Me mentioning that my pup didnt make the grade, is not a dig at the stud dog, just my only experience with his blood in my kennel. In fact, I am pretty certain that her faults were not inherited from Boy Blue (lack of heart/desire, being her main issue)

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    Roybo, I had to put him down, he saw 8 seasons though, cant complain...he is missed around here, was never a dull moment with that dog around. By feck could he hunt.

     

    Navek, Id have work for a dog of that breeding, but not many other folk would, (might be wrong)? Im leaning towards a faster type, the pups wont be greased lightning but Id like to catch the odd critter on the lamp too, as well as daytime on the hill.

     

    I'll keep you posted

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    Im sure you have something in mind but if you want to use Tigger he has everything to add for a bitch , has been tested and throws some decent stuff there are a few lads on here that are running pups out of him and they are flying

     

    Thats a very nice offer Mik, thankyou. I have heard about one or two of Tigger's pups, and they sound great. I dont think I could go far wrong with him.

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  14. Roybo, I had to put him down, he saw 8 seasons though, cant complain...he is missed around here, was never a dull moment with that dog around. By feck could he hunt.

     

    Navek, Id have work for a dog of that breeding, but not many other folk would, (might be wrong)? Im leaning towards a faster type, the pups wont be greased lightning but Id like to catch the odd critter on the lamp too, as well as daytime on the hill.

     

    I'll keep you posted

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