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Posts posted by tia.kins
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Tracing lines is brilliant. I like to know, and admire folk with the same desire!
But don't breed just because your dogs have got a certain line your claiming credit from that was generations back.
There needs to either be some consistency in the lines performance or some good recent performance!
I don't get why folk quote dogs that are years gone by when advertising their pups!
I am as guilty as the next man, fallen for the same trap, but between the diog of legend an the dogs of today from one line could have seen several cart horses in between !
Keep things moving forward and think for the future. Lines are a bit of history....and simply nice to know
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Some good photo's there
What cross and size is the longer furred Merle? (in the bottom pics) It's a cracking looking dog. Do you work it?
Do you have to clip long haired dogs or does it just stay that length?
ATB
Hi,
His about 23"
Mix of all sorts, bitch: beardie/grey x beddy/whippet sired by a border collie........so I was told.......
He does ok for himself and me
Don't clip him but strip his fur by hand over the summer or when he gets a mess...... Don't take long.
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looking good Rob nice when pups start to come together !
Do you think she will be as steady as Flyn ?
They are very differnt dogs Jimmy, Very different.
I har Smokey done well for himselfthis weekend just gone.
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great pics......look in very tidy condition too,,,are the two merle types related by any chance?...
Thanks.
No, no relation at all.
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Been mouching about a bit.
Seanc was good enough to take a few snaps of the pooches as they went about their business.
As you can see, the dogs are crap posers, and professional puppies!
Got a good summer ahead
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well done guys
looks like fun was had by all, dogs looked good, and the farmer will be happy (well if he's anything like the farmers i know maybe less grumpy would be better) hows the pup bred?Hi, the pup is out of a red first cross collie grey bitch, and sired by a Merle Bitza's with all sorts in there. My guess would be she's about 1/3 collie with some deerhound feather and saluki ways!....
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Thats bloody brilliant Moll.
I bet the action packed session was fantastic to be amongst.
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what a cracking looking tyke.
best of luck with the youngen
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Belting write up mate looks like fun. How do you get so many photo's up in one hit?
Thanks, was a good and productive morning.
re photos, just stick them on photobucket and paste the links over. never hit a limit.
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he certainly is eye catching....
Good to read that the ferreting trip went to plan...... young dogs can certainly complicate and destract the hunter from the ferreting game....
...... some days, its nice to be able to confidently think on, and know the "trouble" is worth it.....all the best with the yougster
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Great account of the session, and some stunning views
The Dales certainly do hold some attraction.....and not just for rabbits.Been looking throught this new section of THL....... Dales this, Dales that..... more Dales, wet Dales... Tomo and the Dales.....
Are you on THL commission or something? Got shares?
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nice one mate looks like a cracking day,, and more experiance for the pup,,,
you cetainly took some photos,, must be nice to have the time to sit back and just click away with the camera
does that mean hedgy was doing all the work TOMO, i spent most of the session lying in the grass snapping away....... and let thedog do the work. old hegey has his own sie to worry about
we dont all have a net man or bag carrier ...... so i did have a few sprint moments....i call it rabbit bolt circuit training, almost like a blep test
Good pics and write up Rob
If you can scrape a Wednesday off fairly soon, your welcome to come down and
show off your long netting skills and give me another lesson
:laugh: Cheers, D.
dave.... i just been off all week! back on monady till end of march.
might have to book a wednesday
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Headed over to Hedgey's to give him a hand on the burrows. It was a warm morning so not the most comfortable of ferreting days and we expected to be plagued by small conies, but i had expressed that it was better than sitting at home, and i was keen to continue Roxy's development.
We set up nets in the normal fashion, and i placed a few purse nets as i have previously to let Roxy experience these tools of the trade.
Ferts went in and straigh off, the rabbits started bolting clear of the hedges. These are clearly the deserters of the coney race...
.....as once they had gone, the ferts were left to chase the small conies around, killing as they went in most cases or providing some mini bolters for the dogs.It was a frustrating morning for myself. Roxy was fine with the nets as per usual, but certainly first thing, she was very much sitting near me, holding away from the warrens, or staring elsewhere.
The rabbits we initially caught, she would pick up and run off with, only to dump them across the fields or sit next to them.....in a display i have seen alot over recent months. There were spells of good ferreting action from her......short lived, but some spells....then she put the icing on the cake when she stole a baby coney from my rabbit stash and proceeded to eat the dam thing.....every time i tried to get close to her, she would feck off further...wolfing the meat down... :twisted: :twisted: I gave up in the end as i didnt want to make too much noise and was clearly not going to win this one, plus the ferts were still to ground and there was other stuff to focus on. As soon as her belly was full, she trotted over as if nothing had happened and continued to watch the net lines.....
love em or hate em????Hedgey then said his dog was marking an adjacent hedgerow, so we upped nets, re set and got on with the next warren.
Same as before , lots of good size bunnies bolting initially, then the babes, then the lay ups...... Roxy, however, was far more settled.
We were on the higher side to the hedge, and she had to stand closer to it all to see the bulk of the action on the lower side, the advantage now with regards her experience building was that the rabbits were bolting close to her. One large bunny she was able to capture before it got overly tangled in the web, and all the baby rabbits she caught before they hit the nets or holes.As is normal, she carrys her catch fine, then does the laps of honour and then dumps her kill, however, on the new hedge, she reluctanly, but knowingly, brought in her first live to hand bunny, nice full size (it was almost as if it clicked to her that giving it to me was easier than running around with the wriggling lump of fur)....and then shortly after she caught a babe, that again, the reluctanly brought in :mrgreen: :oops: :mrgreen:
With the nets up, we sorted out the two lie ups, and set for home.
We bagged a nice clean 13 full growns, half a dozen youngsters and probably left more squeekers below ground. Might sound harsh, but then the farmer wants the rabbt numbers dropped, and thats two hedges cleared in a mornings work.....happy days
The squeekers were also ideal for roxy's confidence.
She caught one randomly in the open field, and three or four on the hedge bottoms...which should have helped accelerate her experience levels......well i hope so.There is a slide show below of all the images i took, click the link
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v491/delbertio/Feb%2011%20Ferts/?albumview=slideshow
I managed plenty of pics whilst i lay in wait mid field, basking in the sun with a T-shirt on...these are the ones i liked with some comments.
The spot
The double hedges
"the apprintice"..... Lord Sugar
The Rebel......
Without a cause.....
More chinanigoons...
spells of focus.....
Some odd stances......
To stop the deserters.....
bagged
steady as they come
mid morning
the next hedge
more in tune..... (full belly)
nabbed from within
.....and eventually first retrieve....
training aids......
Paw up markers.......
then the retrieve....eventually
un sung hero
have also established she is not one for the end of day........
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Different class..... Now, hurry and process some old collie cur type muts
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Nice read, must have taken as long as the drive to put that all together!
I like Sussex, plenty of game on the ground and some stunning rolling countryside
It really is nice to try somewhere new and test he dogs on something different!
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Hasn't tiny 7 got a litter of pups with about a 1/4 collie in them?
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Moll, millet,
I know Gaz and jimmy well enough to know you would have had another cracking day and the dogs would have had a good work out and. I doubt claimed some decent rest.
Don't bite the bait
the site is full of it.As you very well know, we all hunt many ways and different ways and there is no single way to catch the humble bunney.. We should enjoy what suits as and be left to be responsible for our own charges
Good to see some quality action pics, glad ole smokey is back running the rabbits, coco looked to be all over them and the terriers certainly looked keen to graft.......
Excellent post
Hi Rob v good day mate hopefully you can get up there with us soon! Smokey doing okay taken it easy with him really he broke down one night when lamping but after 35 staples it was one run too many but he has come on well since then! Congratulations by the way on your new addition to your family hope all is well?
Cheers chap, we are well here if not a little busy!
I will try and get north before season ends, would enjoy some off the views and that cheap northern ale
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Good to hear. They do seem to be fast little Merle fur ball!
Not has any fuss with long nets either, which is always a bonus as when a dog hits one, it always looks such a mess, and is always timed when you either need the net to do its job, or when your busy elsewhere
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Moll, millet,
I know Gaz and jimmy well enough to know you would have had another cracking day and the dogs would have had a good work out and. I doubt claimed some decent rest.
Don't bite the bait
the site is full of it.As you very well know, we all hunt many ways and different ways and there is no single way to catch the humble bunney.. We should enjoy what suits as and be left to be responsible for our own charges
Good to see some quality action pics, glad ole smokey is back running the rabbits, coco looked to be all over them and the terriers certainly looked keen to graft.......
Excellent post
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Hey up, willow is looking very well.
Possibly a bit heavier/ more collie shaped than my Roxy, but then it's always hard to tell from a picture.
I see she is good on the retrieve. Is she possessive and jealous over her toys or retrieved items ? Roxy will fetch/ come no problem but very reluctant to hand over!......something we will work on.
Been getting her used to jumping of late. Springs over fences. No problem. Not sure on gates yet, however she can clear them going by her wire jumps.... Mind you, she is small enough to go under most gates
She looks well, am pleased to see some pics of her.
All the best
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I'd buy a decent lamp dog in. Plenty of pups out there.
You putting a big coursing dog that can't handle small fields over a smaller speed machine. The pups could throw a multitude of ways and you pick te wrong pup etc.
If your not happy with te saluki grey on the lamp, don't use it.
Personally, I find lamping rabbits suits a solid robust dog that can take the knocks of hitting cover and lots of fast twist and turns.
Plenty of dogs being bred for this type of work, why add more pups to the Lurcher pool? When you have your own doubts. Much easier to buy in a well bred pup at 8 weeks and rear it proper, without the burden and cost of having your own litter and finding homes etc
However, as ever, the choice is yours.
Hope it works out
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That young lads lucky there was no digging to be had, I know how spade shy you are!
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Horizon?????? Looks a bloody stones throw away
Fact or Fiction?
in Lurchers & Running Dogs
Posted · Edited by tia.kins
LEGENDS........
Dogs dont make themselves legends, its the owners account of the dog or some one elses tales. Remember that. All that should count is your own measured values and your own realistic requirements.
I bet there are plenty of heroic Lurchers out there, it doesnt need to be a measured quantity, and given the variation of game and terrain across the uk, unless you have walked corner to corner and the land inbeteen with that dog, then it can never be a truely measured quantity..... so in reality a dog is only ever gonna be a "local" Legend.
I am not sure its a wise move to seek out Legends or Heros that you havent had first hand dealings with. Far better in my mind to mix with what you know works for you in your "manor"
The internet has blown folks expectations about dogs massively out of proportion .......we are simply ruining our future..... So many Legends now days....and dogs related to Legends...the term iself almost becomes Blahzay ................meaningless