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Everything posted by SportingShooter
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I find that incredibly hard to believe. 50-90 metres Nearly (100YARDS) And the pattern with even a magnum AAA at this range will be incredibly sparse. To even attempt to shoot live quarry at this range and to damage something edible like a Rabbit screams of disrespect. What brands and weight of AAA are you using and through what gun and choke. Regards SS
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can you shoot pigeons with a 410
SportingShooter replied to ferreterwithnets's topic in Pigeon Shooting & Decoying
Depending on how well placed the shot is a .410 will kill with ease at 40 yards. I would consider normal working range for this gun to be around 25 yards,however. And as for pigeons, they are a very soft feathered bird and will drop with a well placed shot from a .410. A saying I always stick to when I consider if a cartridge will kill things is that if it can drop a very hard feathered bird like the Carrion Crow, then it will drop anything, I have dropped many a Crow with the .410. Before the ban on lead shot, Duck used to be dropped regularly on the flight pond with my .410. Get some pra -
Companions for my .308
SportingShooter replied to kimberman's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
I just paid £20/100 for Winchester Supreme but the rifle seems to like them the best, so I will keep on buying them. What brands are you using? SS -
I can personally recommend the Gower, having lived here all of my life, the first area of oustanding natural beauty in the UK. Plenty of accomodation around here and some great sights. If you need any further info drop me a PM and ill see what I can do. Regards SS
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Another of the True Countrymen of the old school gone. I thoroughly enjoyed his articles and was extremely pleased to see he him getting his MBE a few months ago. The man had knowledge which can never be replaced on the arts of ferreting and fishing. He will be missed no doubt. RIP Fred J. Taylor http://www.shootingtimes.co.uk/
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And 50 yards is at a very long push, it is not easy to consistently kill at 50 yards unless you are supremely confident, the normal working range of a shotgun is 30-40 yards. The barrel length has absolutely no advantage to range. Go for a standard auto or O/U with a 3.5 or 3" chamber. The 3.5" will just give more shot in the pattern, especially when you are using large shot like No. BB, 1 and 3. For a goose I advocate the more shot the better as they are such as tough target to bring down at distance. If caught in the right circumstances much lighter and smaller shot sizes will bring down
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Year in year I hear more and more, havnt yet but I hope to hear many more and they increase.
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If you have an exceptional load then 50 yards is achievable consistently. The "goose gun" is not special in any way in terms of ballistics, its just a gun designed for the marsh. With factory ammo and a normal choke 40 yards is maximum for a goose, especially something the size of a greylag or canadas. Even if you move from 12 bore up to the 10, 8 and 4 bore, the range will stay around the same. SS
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You wont be shooting any geese up to 100 metres or anything else for that matter with a shotgun. The barrel's length makes no difference to the power only the balance, it depends on what your confortable with. Any 3" or 3 1/2" auto on guntrader.co.uk is perfectly capable. SS P.S I take it youve never shot a shotgun or goose?
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Have a good look around on guntrader.co.uk and see what you come up with. A second hand 3 1/2" auto would be the most likely outcome, a 3 1/2" O/U will be around £600-700 second hand. If you step down to 3"(which is more than capable of killing geese), then you will have a lot more which will suit your budget in Semi Auto, O/U and S/S. Regards SS
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At the time, about three years ago, I read exhaustively up on this subject and found no mention of rupturing organs. I even contacted the Environment Agency for Wales to clarify the situation, which was followed up with a letter. The advice may have changed and I am not intending to do it in the future. I am not the sort to go off half cocked with bad information, I made sure that if questioned I had the justification, the permission and the means to do things right. All of this was enough for me to carry out the task and it could not be said that I had not looked into the subject in detai
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One fundamental thing there that I and I'm sure others will comment on is the "sport" bit. I shoot foxes as a means of controlling them, not for sport. That is not to say its not satisfying but If asked to shoot a fox, I do not do it for sport but control. Same with Rabbits, they are both vermin. No sport involved just humane despatch. Regards SS
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out shooting with my dad
SportingShooter replied to sounder jnr's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
Youre dad better keep on his toes or you will be taking over from him before long. Top shooting there sounder jnr, 180 yards!!, phew, better than me thats for sure. Wont be long before youre shooting like that at 400 yards! Keep up the good work, youre dad must be worried he is being outclassed. Good Stuff Kid SS -
Heard it first on QI, slightly different but still made me laugh.
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I agree a Rifle is always going to be x100 better than a shotgun. As I say I have only had to do it the once on a farm which I am solely allowed to shoot over, the farmer does not trust anyone else, the Roe Doe I shot was a chance shot(even though I was there with the intention of shooting deer with a shotgun), I rounded a corner while walking a hedgerow and the deer was standing around 25 yards away, it hadnt seen me, I was using AAA with a 3/4 choke and took a head shot, it dropped on the spot. I made me feel guilty to shoot a Doe with a shotgun but it had to be done. If asked to do it no
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Dicehorn, The law does not state whether precautions need to be taken, but it does state that the deer need to be complicit in damage or shown to be historically causing damage. This would justify the use of a shotgun to shoot the deer, so if the deer have taken the tops out of the trees he is legal. Regards SS P.S Where did you read that out of curiosity.
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That sounds like a sound and morally acceptable option,John. As I said in my post, this person would not be concerned about losing a permission to protect their values. As the pest controller and gamekeepers on here know, foxes need to be controlled no matter what. Regards SS
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you might well be right about the land not having to be yours,its my understanding that it has to be,either way he's got to get the facts which you've given him via the link No problem Stone-cold, its just I did a lot of research into it before I did it. Not trying to argue and he has all the facts there now so he will be on the right side of the statute book. Regards SS
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Here you are Gimli, have a look here, http://www.shootinglaw.com/article7.htm The land does not have to be yours, The "occupier" of land and their servants is meant to be interpreted accordind to the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 which states that the servant of an occupier should be meant to include those who have right to hunt, shoot or fish there. Regards SS
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I bought 5000 28g 7's in January and they worked out at £156 but only because I bought in bulk and they are not heavy game cartridges, I use them for everthing I shoot however. I would be looking at paying at least £180/1000 for 30g and closer £200 for 32g. It depends on the quality and the amount really, I have saved myself buying shells for 18 months now and so dont get caught in price rises. Have a look here as an indicator www.justcartridges.com. The prices will be the same all around the country give or take a few quid, one word of advice dont be tempted to go too cheap, they will
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The rules on shooting deer with a shotgun are clearly laid out and specific. The circumstances in England and Wales are solely for the prevention of serious damage to crops(which proof of previous damage will need to be to hand), the protection of forestry and other commercial operations. You cannot just go and shoot them with a shotgun because the landowner sees them as pests, they have to do damage first or their is historical evidence of them doing damage. Also, only the offending deer can be shot, you cannot shoot Roe if Muntjac are doing the damage. They must be shot either with a Rif
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How far would the noise carry!
SportingShooter replied to spookster's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
Spookster, what sort of terrain is the ground there? The noise of a gun would carry a fair distance in the dead on night and with no wind, it would carry even more if the wind was blowing in your direction. If the bangs were very loud then I would suggest they are quite close to you but it depends on the terrain, the gun(if it was a gun), and the direction the shot was fired. Were the bangs in quick succession or one followed by a pause and then another. Regards SS -
Ferreting guns, 12, 20, 28, .410 etc??
SportingShooter replied to Hob&Jill's topic in Ferrets & Ferreting
I use a mixture of 12, 20 and .410 depending on how confident I'm feeling!! The 12 is normally for rabbitting over dogs and I tend to use the 20 the most on the few occasions I shoot over ferrets, it gives you a good median I find, the cartridges are slightly more but bought in bulk they are not bad. I use the .410 on the odd occasion when the bury is in a enclosed space or there is not much room for the rabbit to run, the .410 is expensive to run but on the few occasions it comes out is becomes perfectly viable. For all the guns I use No.7 shot in 28gr(12B), 24gr(20B) and 14gr(.410). Rega -
To be honest, correct me if im wrong John, the person concerned wouldnt really be that interested in permission, his decision would be based on moral grounds rather than greed. The most obvious reason I can assume this person is against shooting foxes at this time of year is because the vixen is likely to be harbouring cubs and the dog is hunting, trying to feed them. The most morally acceptable thing would be to find the den and make sure that all the foxes were despatched, not just the vixen or dog. If the person concerned is not capable of using dogs underground, then I would find someon
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1st fox when out rabbiting
SportingShooter replied to jamie g's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
Well done jamie, I bet you were chuffed to bits, its satisfying to shoot the first one, I can just about remember mine. I have a HMR and it does the job on foxes in the right circumstances. One reason I can think of dicky is that the bullet placement with a rimfire needs to be exact, if you know where the vital organs are on a fox and you are supremely confident of hitting it then fine, but seen as jamie has not shot foxes before the headshot is the most humane option, if he misses then he misses, there is no loss but if he hits it in the guts and missed heart or lungs it would bleed to d
