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Could anyone who knows the boys(we go back a long way)tell them to private message me,FC wants there contact number,I had it but lost it.
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Took my young lad with me many years ago.the bitch came out with a fox cub,he thought it was a German Shepherd pup.
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Holding a strong dog at a dig he pulled hard and i Dislocated my finger,my mate who is a medic put it back in there and then,at the time I was a professional Musician making good money.I was going to specialists for nine months,as they said I would never play again(scarey times)they fixed me up eventually but it cost me a fortune.The joys of digging.
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This arrived today from HandyHardware,seems good and strong,will test it Saturday 28 euro including postage. -
By the looks of it Liam he aint got much to bite you with {but it would be funny seeing it] Some people get very jumpy at the business end of a dig.
Took two men digging with me many years ago,I pulled out the Badger bye the tail and they ran away,they were a bit jumpy ok.
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This B and T would bite anybody went to lift him from a dig(except me)he bit loads of people when doing his work( I would encourage people to hand him up to me LOL)he gave us many a laugh at a dig.-
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Any pics of your old dog liam.
Sounds like a champ
He died from obesity,he was eating to much.
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Best one I had would eat every bit of shite in the yard twice a day,still looking for one to replace him.
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A glen is as far as I'm aware a strong dog/ heavy dog bred for trialling or what happens at the end of a dig that's if there are still lads out there breeding for there intended work which I whole heartedly wish there are as opposed to going to ground like a patterdale (if there is such a thing ) does.
A dog at the end of a dig is needed like an ashtray on a motorbike.
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I hope no one puts up a copy of the rules. It's a very private part of history in the Irish working dog game.
Regarding the trials not being a game test ?
I was going to stay out of a silly thread, IMO, but to not give credit to two of the gamest breeds ever would be an insult. The trials resulted in the working type Staff and the Wheaten becoming very fine tuned game dogs. So there must of been something in the trials to produce game dogs.
IMO it was more of the level of competition than the trial itself. There were judges present and you had to have better than everyone else to get in the silverware.
Also, anyone who thinks that the ol' trial dogs of Ireland couldn't hold their own in other disciplines should educate themselves before making such statements. Even Wheatens.
Someone said they'd doubt a 20 lb dog could hold a Coyote.
If a 50 lb bulldog can hold a 100 lb feral pig or 2 Bulldogs can catch a feral steer to be branded then IMO a 20 lb dog could hold a 40 lb Coyote.
BUT, only if he wants to.
Fact is the best of these Staffs and such were about average in the APBT world. I don't see why posting the rules of a historic sport should be kept as private, hell you can find Cajun Rules plastered all over the web. What's silly about the thread? A guy was asking a honest question about what took place with his uncles dogs...
Fact is plenty of men were coming up to the Midlands to cross there pits with (about average)staffs.As for six minutes,most trial men had shores for training,the good ones done a lot more than six minutes in training.This was all a long time ago.
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DF I dont understand your statement they were tested harder in the field.Im not having a go at you Im just curious.
I'm talking about Pitdogs, plenty used them on quarry in the field as well as in the box back in the day.
I understand now.This practice was scorned on by trial men and pit men,using a strong dog at the end of a dig proved nothing about the dog most curs will draw in the daylight(sheep dogs,German Shepard's,Springers,Kerry Blues)to name just a few.The other practice letting them mix it on the sod,most just did not like it or do it,it proved nothing either,again most curs will engage in this practice if let.
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DF I dont understand your statement they were tested harder in the field.Im not having a go at you Im just curious as to how field work could be more of a test than the shore?
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That is not the question I asked you DF.
But strong dogs were not used at a real dig by terrier men(except by the cowboys).
Because six minutes is hardly the same as a real dig the trials were good but they were more a place to meet like minded people and get a certificate not a real test
How were they getting worked harder in the field than in the shore?
You think that's an automatic sign of gameness? Even some game Bulldogs sing in bouts...
The trials were never about drawing the game,it was about working the game for a time limit in complete silence with judges listening for the slightest whimper.Well the old Badger trials was a similar concept so highly likely, you're in the states so I'm assuming by Bullterrier you mean APBT or you talking about the real Bullterrier?
Can anybody post the rules of the old Badger Trials? A test for a dog no doubt but dogs were getting worked harder in the field than in the trials....
Who said anything about at a dig?
Not saying you did but there was stricter testing taking place outside of the trials on Gamedogs over here.
You said in the field I presumed you meant out in the field,if you meant in the pit,that was done over here two.
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But strong dogs were not used at a real dig by terrier men(except by the cowboys).
Because six minutes is hardly the same as a real dig the trials were good but they were more a place to meet like minded people and get a certificate not a real test
How were they getting worked harder in the field than in the shore?
You think that's an automatic sign of gameness? Even some game Bulldogs sing in bouts...
The trials were never about drawing the game,it was about working the game for a time limit in complete silence with judges listening for the slightest whimper.Well the old Badger trials was a similar concept so highly likely, you're in the states so I'm assuming by Bullterrier you mean APBT or you talking about the real Bullterrier?
Can anybody post the rules of the old Badger Trials? A test for a dog no doubt but dogs were getting worked harder in the field than in the trials....
Who said anything about at a dig?
That is not the question I asked you DF.
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How were they getting worked harder in the field than in the shore?
You think that's an automatic sign of gameness? Even some game Bulldogs sing in bouts...
The trials were never about drawing the game,it was about working the game for a time limit in complete silence with judges listening for the slightest whimper.Well the old Badger trials was a similar concept so highly likely, you're in the states so I'm assuming by Bullterrier you mean APBT or you talking about the real Bullterrier?
Can anybody post the rules of the old Badger Trials? A test for a dog no doubt but dogs were getting worked harder in the field than in the trials....
Because six minutes is hardly the same as a real dig the trials were good but they were more a place to meet like minded people and get a certificate not a real test
But strong dogs were not used at a real dig by terrier men(except by the cowboys).
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You think that's an automatic sign of gameness? Even some game Bulldogs sing in bouts...
The trials were never about drawing the game,it was about working the game for a time limit in complete silence with judges listening for the slightest whimper.Well the old Badger trials was a similar concept so highly likely, you're in the states so I'm assuming by Bullterrier you mean APBT or you talking about the real Bullterrier?
Can anybody post the rules of the old Badger Trials? A test for a dog no doubt but dogs were getting worked harder in the field than in the trials....
How were they getting worked harder in the field than in the shore?
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My son won a show at a hunt show last week with his terrier first time he ever put the dog in a show and the dog is nearly 8 but has a few marks from work but nothing bad or fresh when he won there were a few questioning the judge about his choice he just said it was a working terrier show so he picked a working terrier had a chat with judge after he said it was nice to see some workers about
Got spoken to harshly by a female judge many years ago at a Staff show, for hunting my dog on rats,I informed her they were not marks from rats but from a tougher foe,she nearly blew a gasket.
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Have to take my hat off to the men and dogs that who work the rocks,they are scary looking places.Personally I would be afraid to let my dogs in,but then I dont have to,but for men who work this terrain I presume they have no choice,rocks are all they have.Many years ago a Welshman judged the terrier section in Roscrea(his name escapes me)he gave best terrier to what I thought was a scaldy looking terrier,he told me afterwords it was perfect for the rocks in his part of Wales,so you learn something new everyday.
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Never thought a terrier would be able to kill hedgehog when they instantly curl into ball any sign of danger mine never have anyway just stay there baying
I had a black dog years ago who would eat right through the spines and kill them.
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Pity they did not get five years each,plenty more like them invading the Countryside.
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Dog or man???atb dc
Both.
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A Restaurant For Dublin Dogmen.
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13 members on there facebook page,right looking shower of fucks.