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somtimes the magnetic switch goes broken. in some cases a stronger magnet can still make the collar turn on and of.
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what is the definition of an eu poplecat?
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looks a bit like a chinese atn copy. but it does seem to have interchangeable 18650 batteries. it does have a balistic calculator but mentions nothing about a laser range finder or abl that is compatible
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sorry for that hope it does work well now
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question to the people who got experience with jagd terriers. from the few people i know of who got experience with jagds i heard that they kind of have a will of their own. and so are way more difficult to control and to learn things than say a patterdale. for instance they said to me that they had such an high prey drive that it would be as good as impossible to for instance catch rats in a chicken pen without also killing all the chickens. how do the people here think about stories like that? are they controlable or not?
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like said before it is not always a numbers game for me also today it was just one rat that we caught. but it was in the ceiling of someones daughter. so they where more happy than a farmer where you catch 50 rats.
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11 hours ago, All-terrain said:
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what type of breed is that? do you hunt rats with them yourself? how much do they weigh and how tall/small are they.
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i got most of the licences possible. but for my this reliant is briliant. it has a galvanized chasis. a body of glassfiber. so not much will rot away on this car. it is a simple car to do most of the repairs yourself. parts are still for sale new and used. it is low in weight and also efficient with petrol so cheap to drive. because of the 3 wheels the light wheigt and beacause it is narrow and small i can reach almost any rat hunting space really close by without much chance of getting stuck. so that all of the ratting gear is close and quick at hand when needed.
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13 hours ago, jackthelad said:
What’s the pike and perch fishing like near you mate ?
pike and perch around where i live is crap. the water here has to much salt for those fish sea bass can be good to fish around my house though and they are great fighters and taste great. eel is alo possible
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so if i understand correct the longer coated pat is more protected against plants but does take more time for the owner?
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just wanted to show you guys the crazy shaking method one of my dog ravi has developed. my son calls her shake the raving tornado shake. somehow her shake seems to help her a lot to protect her from rat bites. she grabs the rat ant the back starts shaking them like crazy while also spinning around herself. if enough life is shaken out off the rat she starts cruncing the spine and as final crushing the skull. it takes a bit of time but if there are more rats to be caught she moves to the next quick(if she is able to she/hear that there is an other rat) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXqBEiQZHd8
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i got a smooth coated patterdale myself but in many pictures i also see pats with half long rough hair on them. is there other than the hair other differences between the 2 ? and does the longer hair work better for the pat in bush high gras brambles nettles and such. does the long hair collect sticky weeds and are they hard to get out?
i got 2 ratting terriers now one is a smooth coated pat the other is a fluffy haired kooierhondje x boernenfox.
the pat goes throug bush and weeds and such well but she did once pick up a nasty cut(needed 4 staples) from sharp reeds. and on time after a long chase after a rat on the side of a heavy thick vegetated ditch she had multiple inimini tiny cuts around the eyes so extra hair on this dog seems llike a good idea to me
the kooiker x boerenfox got extremely soft and fluffy hair she will think twice or even more before she enters thick and heavy undergrowth and or muddy water. but when she knows there rats there.... wel the result of that many lost time washing and grooming this dog the sticky weeds are impossible to get out sometimes without using a knife and if i leave the she would start to morph into one giant mono dread
by the way how the f**k dodo you turn the pictures on this forum and why do the seem to have a will of there own and jump and flipflop before i make them land here on the forum?
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for some reason google decided to put one picture upsidedown and i didn't understand how to rotate it back to normal
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Just now, huckelberry said:
it is a reliant rialto slightly different body than the robin. so also with cars i seemed to have been looking for a smaller breed. it is my bad weather and/or longer range vehicle. i got quite some pictures with rats on the bonnet and the dogs on the roof i'll dig into the computer if i can find some more.
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7 hours ago, eastcoast said:
That is one of best photographs I have ever seen. A Robin Reliant? With dogs on the roof and and rats on the bonnet! I will never forget a yellow Robin Reliant pulling up outside of my house when I was a teenager and 3 huge men getting out and knocking on the door. They wanted to use my terrier to stud a bitch. Long story short but ended up with me squeezing into the mad car with 3 very large blokes and my dog. Happy days.
it is a reliant rialto slightly different body than the robin. it is my bad weather and/or longer range vehicle. i got quite some pictures with rats on the bonnet and the dogs on the roof i'll dig into the computer if i can find some more.
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8 hours ago, DIDO.1 said:
We will do a THL road trip and bring you one if you can arrange some sport for us over there
is thl standing for the hunting life? what types of sports would be of interest to you and what type do you tink my country could offer you in a better way than the uk? you can aso send in personal message if better. if you want to you are more than welcome to come over and if you got something to make a camp i got a peace of land that you can camp on as long as it seem like funn to both of us.
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6 hours ago, OldPhil said:
Hi,..well, you are obviously passionate about your pastime, and I applaud you for that..(I love a man who is serious about his hunting, I cannot be doing with fellows who are simply playing at the game..
They hold no interest for me)
Words and meanings frequently get lost in translation, and this occurs even when men are talking the same language
I apologise if my previous post was not as concise as it might have been.
Like a lot of lads, I've been at the death of thousands of rats, especially when the big Barn Poultry sheds and Battery Chicken farms are being cleaned out...The rodents have often been allowed to eat themselves fat on the spillage from the feedstuffs...Unless a man has been down and dirty, and well amongst a stampede of rodents, all making for the exit, then he ain't fecking lived
Its an amazing feeling to have them hitting you, right left and centre and even climbing up and over you....Its great fun though
Yeah, I kinda get your words regarding varying teams of ferrets , all with specialised tasks in their toolbox,..and it makes good sense to be over gunned, as opposed to being a bit short on firepower...(This is even more so when ferreting rabbits on a week long basis)..
In mentioning the mass destruction of rodents with dogs, ferrets, smokers, etc,..I would have to tell you that my main work for the last thirty years has been as a Rural Pest Controller....
For me, that solitary, one and only rat in a cottage roof or farm shop, really is far more important than killing a big bag of longtails on a farm, or amidst a local council Rubbish Tip.
Often that single rat is far harder to eradicate than a whole group of the feckers....
It is time consuming and frequently costly for the client..
The main thing I have found when trying to control any pest species is to be,....adaptable..
I wish you well in your continued search, for that right tool for the job
Stay safe now, and be lucky..
thanks a lot for your helpfull words. the people here around my home who have seen me ratting often make the joke his dog go totaly crazy for the rats but we still think he himself goes even more crazy than his dogs for rats.
the big Barn Poultry sheds and Battery Chicken farms i only wish that out here i could find places like what i have seen on you tube from the uk. out here they are way more tidy and the best i managed to harvest in one long day with ferrets and 1 and a half dog and airgun was just 63 rats. on a dutch chicken farm. next close followed up hunt there 28 and then 14 and then the chickens returned arter that it have never been that good of a harvest there anymore(so i must have done someting good for the owner) and that was the most rat infested chicken barn i have seen. and one other chicken farm was just before that and the rats there were in between 2 sheds on a long narrow strip of land where also the food silo was. the strip was about 75meter long by about 7 meter and it had vegatation like netels and such but still young/ early in the year. there was only one pvc water drain pipe that went to a small ditch at the back of the farm where the rats could leave this strip of land. so i blocked this pipe with stones. then i put my 2 dogs on a box (i do that so that they can overlook better and not have the rats escape right bihind their ass without noticing it) and i started with just an normal garden hose and home made ratting shovels to flood the burrows with mud(works better than just water in my opinion) the dogs had a great day and it seemed like we caught all of the rat in just one day. but the next day the farmer told me that he did see rat activity so muy next move was to take a long strip of mesh and with that i blocked the peace of land to the concete where the feed silo was. and along this mesh placed walk through traps at about 1,5m interval. the next day the last rat was caught and the farm stayed rat clean for about a year from then. but together with the baby rats only 52 where caught.
many of my work is smaller placed like small chicken floks at the back gaden. but also farms, people with a few horses, with wallnut trees, people who feed wild birds. but also rats in houses under floors in ceilings and sutch and they are indeed way more time consuming to catch and i can not always suceed at places like that and many times when i can not solve it it seems to be a sewage break/opening, and or verry difficult double walls where the rats are better climbers than the ferrets.
during my rat hunting i'm still learning new things every now and then. it happens way less than when i first started. but it still does and that just keeps the job more interesting. see a problem and try to figure out a solution that work for the problem and along the way have succes and/or fail but as long as you can learn from what happens it is a win anyway
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3 hours ago, baker boy said:
Huckelberry
Do you not use paragraphs in the Netherlands..
i once did use to do that but now in the computer age i dis learned (don't even know if that word exists) to do that. because in loads of computer conversation using the paragaph button is making a complete new awser post. and i hat that.
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and then back to the mean part. the reason why i started out this thread. a small ratting dog breed. differnt country might have just had differnt ways of dealing with thing. and for some reason in Česko something diffent than in england happend to their ratting dog and the Prazsky Krysarik a small ratting breed was born. and in germany the miniature pincher was born for som reason these countries did seem to see so much need for a small ratting dog that they started breeding a small ratting dog. some how they did breed them once upon a time and now at least i can't find much about it, they seem to not be used much for ratting nowadays. out here people have used rat poison as the norm for decades to kill the rats. and now they are looking for alternatieve ways of killing rats to me it is of interest to also dive into the history of other countries and see the solutions they came up with. and hope that they can be of use for my rat hunting work.
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On 01/07/2021 at 08:27, Bosun11 said:
9 weeks and ratting under pallets....
No dog has ever been ruined by late entering but plenty have been ruined by starting them too early...
I do know of a bloke who has mini bushing dogs, tiny little yorkie looking things. No idea what they are like on rats but they can run through an earth like its the Mersey Tunnel. Wouldn't know if they could fit under pallets either, that job would best suit a big hob ferret imo.
If its tiny ratters you want, breed your own. It's a risk but there are loads of toy breeds you could use. You'd just have to find one with attitude.
Funny though, there are some serious lads who rat on this site and on the ratting FB sites i'm on. Lads that take huge numbers every year. None of them have ever needed mini anything to the job and standard sized mutts have done just fine.
My guess is that your ego wants a tiny dog. Let it squeeze under pallets because your too lazy to move them yourself. You'd buzz off a mini dog all marked up with rat bites and risking it in places others wouldn't put a dog in. Same with your post wanting micro ferrets, when a good standard jill works just fine on the rats. You just want your ego massaged, showing off your mini's...
Think you need to re-evaluate what your doing in this game...
what im doin in the game is not just catch huge numbers of rats(although i also like huge numbers of caught rats) what im trying to do is to try to kill the last remaining rat and to get a happy rat free client. and when both my body the bodies of my other team players have all been working their lazy asses of and the all just can't destroy the ratting hide out and can not reach them. it might come in handy to have some special tiny forces at hand that can reach them. by the way wanted to give a tumbs up for the firts part of your reply. but because of the last 5 lines (exept fot that final line i can live with that one ) of your reply full of assumptions.... well i just hope that i don't feel that much need to put the tumbs up after that. and i hope that you re evaluate what you just did with that.
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17 hours ago, OldPhil said:
Hi Huckleberry,...I am pleased to hear that you are enjoying your rat hunting forays
I used to do a lot of ratting with terriers, collies, whippets, etc , indeed, at one time in my life, I would far rather hunt rats than rabbits
Mercifully I grew out of it, and followed a different path..
Your idea of trying to find, a tiny terrier seems sensible for the task that you might need it for,..however, unless your rat hunting is exclusively amongst piles of pallets or under wooden flooring, you might find that purchasing a tweenie tyke, you could end up carrying a passenger in your pack
Personally, I am not a fan of Mini Ferrets or ultra tiny terriers..of course you can get exceptions and I've seen several foxes, bolted lovely into nets or to the waiting guns, by a really small Russell...
However, when using such a diminutive tyke we were always really quiet when entering her to an earth...
It was pointless forcing a large fox to have a ruck with a tiny terrier , it nearly always ended badly..
I still think a Big ferret is a far better option for moving rodents from inaccessible voids, but if you want to go down that route then you must follow your heart and continue your search...
Right, all the best, and stay safe,..regards OldPhil
i understand your point about using a tiny terrier against a big fox, and the compairison using a tiny ferret against a big rat verry well. and it does hold its ground for sure. but even than what about small foxes? and what about small rats? and what if they have their hide our with very tiny pass through holes that can not be dug out by the terrier or the ferret? did you never had that happen to you that your whole team of hunting animals was sure that there was something hiding somewhere but it was just impossible to force it from their hiding. to me my job is not to catch as many rats as possible(althoug we love it when it happens) but to take the rat at a certain location. but all of them even if it is just one. i dont want to leave just one tiny rat at a client because it might just stay there and invite new rats to the place and start new families. so if we know where it is hiding we will do all in our possebilety to kill it or to make it move to kill it. we have completely emptied fire wood stacks for just a single rat we dug through so many ground and roots and moved so many stones while digging, we have used water to flood places. we used leaf blowers smokers sticked anti drain clog spirals into their hidings and so on and so on. and many times with succes. but even than. many is just not enough there are still times when nothing gets the rat moving. or the tiny rat had just managed to get from the just completely umptied fire wood shed into the new fire wood pile. and you know that your day is running short on daylight and the rat knows it is better of in that wood pile with one to big for him ferret that out there in the open with you and your dogs. at times like that for me it is time to bring in the specal forces of our ratting team. normaly i always take 3 carriers with all 3 ferrets in them so 9 ferrets in total one box with the bigger stronger hob ferrets with loads of experience and skillls(because they are the first ferrets that i use) but olso more weight and power to finish the job. but they are in many cases just to big to finish the job bause they are not able to reach through all the narrow rat pass throughs especialy when roots wood or stone pass troughs are involved. then i move to my second ferret carrier the middle weight ferrets. when i started out these where jills but now because my working ferret line is mixed with micro blood also this carrier consists mostly and for the biggest time of the year of hobs, because they don't need to become pregnant. these middel weight class ferrets are about the size of a normal/rather small jill and in most cases they can reach through all of the tiny rat pass throughs. but normal and alomst allways is still not always. so that is why there is the 3th carrier box with she special forces the feather weights. the tinies the micro"s. from my working line they are still females but i hope to also get some hobs into this tiny special forces team for all year round hunting in the future. of course these tiny ferrets will not be set up against rat more than twice their weight as the first choise the chissel theet of a big rat compaired to the tiny head of such a small ferret.... i know the ferret can win. but i also know the rat might get a chance to bite a ferret. and given me a choice i ratter see the biggest heads of my team against the biggest team of the ratting squad. just beacause the wounds that might get inflicted by those teeth in size compairison are way less severe for a bigger head. but when we can be quite sure that those bigger rats with the long teeth are not there anymore because both the heay and the middel weight class ferrets have allready done their job. and the rats underground allready know that the ferrets mean buisness and will not fall for theatening and/or atacking they will move when they smell hear and or see the small micro ferret entering through their most narrow squeeze throug pass. and if these smaller rat can they wiil take their chances out in the open. where my dogs wating on their to me apointed places are waiting and where long nets and bolt traps are placed to block the rats escape routes. and hopefully we manage to catch that last remaining small squeeze through rat that last rat that knows the place
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59 minutes ago, socks said:
I’ve no doubt the pup I bred and kept here now would have a crack at a rat as he is a Bally fukcer but there’s a massive difference between a pup of normal size having a go and a pup that is small enough to fit under a pallet killing rats.
i still got interest in a dog ful grown small enough to crawl under a pallet though. i still don't know for sure if it will work well i just think it might. i also got ferrets in different sizes for a reason. and i have been in many rat hunting situations when i would have prefered a smaller dog over a big ferret. for me the dog does not need to kill the rat under the pallet and like with using ferrets i don't think it would happen often. but a smaller dog is more easy to control and direct into the right direction than a ferret. and the dogs surronding the pallets will catch way more rats than the animals under the pallets. but without any rat hunting animals under the pallets that can not be lifted. not much would be caught. they all got their place and function in our tactical war against the rats.
by the way i don't understand what you are trying to tell about the differnce between pup normal size and pup mini size. can you explain that better? might be language differnce my enlish is not bad but wont be as good as from an englishman
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3 hours ago, W. Katchum said:
I watched a 10 week old lakes pup nab an nail a half grown rat, pup had a serious little head on it tho an a real bad attitude from before it’s eyes where open
Also heard of a 12 week old patterdale pup kill 2 ferrets that’s escaped there run.
jist because you ain’t seen summat or don’t think it sounds right don’t mean it ain’t true, either way I wouldn’t start a pup that young but what a man does with his dogs is his business
3 hours ago, Aussie Whip said:The denning Russells I had were trying to bite through the live catch cage of rats at 8 weeks but I didn't let them loose with them at that age, more worried about the pups getting badly bitten. Don't know if they had the jaw strength at that age but used to mess my hands up playing, lol. 4 weeks old in pic.
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when i wanted to buy my newest dog van hamelen i asked the breeder(who usess them on fox and badger most of the times) if there would be any pups that would work well on rats. he told me that is simple bring along a live rat and and you can see what pup has the drive for it. when i got to the breeder i first wanted to see the pups(he had 2 nests at that time. and i allready saw a few smaller pups in the nest that got my interest. we when for a walk with the dog and i made up my mind.. that one was the pup i wanted to take home. but then i thought about the live rat i still had with me. well i didn't want to take it home alive again anyway. so i took the cage out and the pup i choose did not have any interest in the big rat in that cage. so i strated to doubt my choice. i asked the breeder to get the other pups of the nest. and some of the pups showed a lot more interest in the rat. but not a smaller sized bitch pup that had my interest. so we got those pups away and brought the pups from the other nest to the rat and one small bitch pup didn't think twice and went crazy on the rat straight away. and that pup is now my dog van hamelen. the big full grown rat in the cage she had plenty of drive and will to try to nail that one. but did i want to take the chance with an 8,5 weeks old pup? well no i had 2 full grown dogs with me and she could watch them how it had to be done. she was howling grunting barking like crazy while they did. she wanted to enter the game. but me and the other dogs didnt let her. until a few days later we had a few young rats in a cage. i had send those few days playing with the pups let her chase and bite dead rats on a string. had a small fishing rod style hazel twig with a dried peace of brow rat skin to it to play with her and she seemed to do so well. that when i showed her the cage and saw how much she wanted to take on those 2 small rats that she was up to it. and it seemed that she was. she went with us on a daily basis. i had a lot of work as a rat hunter at that time and i also wanted to spend as much time with the pup as possible. my other 2 dogs where traveling along in my sidecar as always. and the small pup van hamelen went into the sleve of my motorbike jacket. when we stoped at a rat hunting job and she picked up the exitement of my other dogs here nose came out of my jacket and she wanted out to help us. so i let her when she got tired (this seemed to happen only when there wasn't many rats) she got back into my jacket . the first next time she killed rat was a nest of hailess baby rats i saw one of my dogs digging and killing the first baby and took this hunting spot over together with the pup. together we digged to them and i let her kill the you rats whille my other 2 dogs where barking and groweling from frustration because i didn't let them join in. but for van hamelen this was only an exta motivation. from that time on i don't remenber exactly what rat she killed at wat time and were. but for a pup 2 experienced full grown dogs are not an even match so she had not much chance of killing rats. but when i saw that it wasnt'a big rat and she could handle the fight i would protect her from the other dogs so that she could have her own private rat hunt. and when it was a bigger rat that might be to hard for her me and the other dog would jump in straight away to take over the fight. after i had van hamelen just a week or 2/3 one of my dogs died suddenly and we stll had loads of ratting work. and at that time she did start to catch a lot more and also bigger rats and because we had one dog less. she also had more private time with those because we where not always close by enough to jump in straight away. she was hard for herself and the only thing that seemed to matter to her was killing the rats getting a rat bite in here nose seemed to happen way to much and i hoped that she would becaume more carefull for myself and learn from ravi my older dog who is a crazy shaker and does not get bitten much by rats because of her crazy shaking tornado. but van hamelen was more of a biter than a shaker and she just seemed to want to be the frirst to nail the rats and they just should not escape so bite and hold and it it hangs in my nose bite more and deeper and not let go and hope that my boss or ravi comes to help me get those teeth out of my nose soon. she is now about 1,5/2 years of age and she starts to shake a bit more but still not as much as ravi. well at least she knows how to handle the rats better now she doesn't get bitten that much nowadays. to me every bite to her nose is one to much. but for her only the choorhexidrine that i put on her nose seems to be to much.
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and for now can we please go on about the original post and quite the crap. or at least don't make negative/ calling name like assumptions. i think that is not the reason for a forum like this. the questioning and asking why or how is fine by me by the way. in my opinion a forum is a way of gathering and sharing information. and yes you will find people there who have a different way of doing things. to me that is why such a forum is of interest people with other knowledge than me. i don't care much about who has caught the most of rats in their lifetime. to me it matters if i might learn something new from how you caught your rats. to me it aint a pissing contest. but i do need to take a piss at times. i hope that i can choose my own tree to piss against.
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THE NEW FERRET FINDER
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the new mk1 style ferret finder only seems to have 8ft collars.