Evil knievil
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Posts posted by Evil knievil
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May he Rest in Peace!
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9 hours ago, foxdropper said:
Did the second shed this evening .Warm start but cooled off nicely as the action heated up .All dogs worked well ,no fights of any consequence .My old girl was a pillar of restraint with the Russell’s that she usually hates lol.Finished on 248 which was a bit shy of my prediction of 300.Still decent bag though .Had couple Bedlingtons along tonight which worked like trogons .Few water breaks in which my two insisted on getting in the bowl
Young bitch still a bit sore from the other night I think .
Bite on bitches eye looked worse than it is .All washed off and she’s fine .
Great result... Looks like brilliant craic. Some service to the farmer! Well done all...
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Sounds like you've a fair idea of things as is Steve. Reckon you need 2 lifetimes to get a proper grasp of line breeding... Just when you think you've cracked it, you're thrown a curve ball. I don't care who you are, no-one is an expert! I've been around and dug with some of the greats. And although great terriermen, they made mistakes and didn't get it right just like everyone else. I agree all good dog men have to be obsessed and live for terrierwork. What I would say is and this is just my opinion and like everyone else I'm no expert. You need to know the breeding behind your line, the good and the bad! Keep it tight and in the family while things are going well. Every line will eventually run into difficulty. When it does, you need to recognise it and not be afraid to use an outcross. (Plenty of worker to worker filling kennels out there lol..) Wether it's a complete outcross or a partial one depends on how tight and how much trouble you're line is in. And obviously good working dogs with good stuff behind them. What works fold back into your original line, what doesn't discard and move on. You may need to use several successful outcrosses to give you further options and freedom to move, all the while folding it back in... While breeding is very important, "Producers" with said breeding is all important. And better again Producers with breeding that also have very good siblings themselves...of course it's not an ideal world and everyone can only be honest with themselves regarding their own stock and others & do their best accordingly....Just my opinion.
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10 minutes ago, dogmandont said:
Done the course of antibiotics with the bitch I mentioned on the advice from a vet but it didn't help, I'm not saying it doesn't help but that it didn't in our case.
Done that too... Again mixed results over several litters! In conjunction with and without the Eurican ....
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7 minutes ago, Glyn..... said:
If it is herpes ask your vet about Eurican Herpes 205 Vaccine its given to the bitch during pregnancy she then produces antibodies which passes to the pups via the placenta which then keeps them safe during their first month after which their own antibodies kick in
Both myself and my buddy used it and got mixed results across several litters... It by no means guarantees a healthy litter. On the whole I'd agree it's worth a try just don't get your hopes up...
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They reckon it's canine herpes. A pal who keeps a very decent line and knows his dogs won't breed off an old stud. He believes they won't produce sound, strong, quality pups. Not sure do I agree. I've asked several huntsmen.. none agree with him. Any thoughts?
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13 minutes ago, sionnach99 said:
I don’t think that’s where lads have the problem mate of course he got his terriers off someone to begin with. But he bred from good stock and the knowledge he has in breeding shines through in a lot of the dogs he has produced over the years it’s not as if he was just churning out pups for money. Where a lot of lads have a problem myself included is when he was good to lads giving them pups whether sold or gifted, and linings, those same lads went on to breed the bollox outta dogs to churn out pups selling them solely off his name not there working ability . Ac seems a gent I know lads who friendly with him as I said before I don’t know him personally. He helped a lot of yards out and then those who got them used them for money diluting blood and selling them off the mans name. That’s wrong. I’m sure the man had no problems with those he gave pups or linings to who continued keeping the blood tight and do right by the dogs. The problem is some took advantage and f****d it for him.
That's a fair point.. you're right, if he bred litters solely for the right reasons ie. Improving/maintaining a working line then of course there's a big difference than simply churning out pups for money. Point taken in that regard. I don't know the man or the line...
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9 hours ago, Blackmag said:
One of the biggest peddlers of his name was tp with nigger who he bought as a stud when ac had to leave him over the the water and tp bought him as a stud and used him on anything including first season bitches ac himself has always been a gent and genuine
By the sounds of things AC is a gent and his terriers seem to have a v good name. But correct me if I'm wrong, did he not get his terriers from someone else originally and sold pups, more than likely quoting the original breeding as he did. And all this time did he not use outcrosses along the way... So are they still pure AC terriers? & If he never used any outcrosses are they not pure original owners terriers?
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12 minutes ago, Timmy H said:
Filmed by a supporter, shared to his mates and someone sent it to the press.
The arrogant idiots did wrong and got shot down by their own supporters.
Whichever side your on there is no justification for what they did, it's disgusting and has done nothing but damage to any fieldsports. There's no excuse for cruelty and law breaking.
Anything you ain't proud of keep quiet, don't boast about it, but those twats couldn't keep quiet could they? Just like people who shoot birds outside of the GL but have to post it up.
They ruin it for ordinary blokes every time.
Totally agree, there is no excuse for cruelty and law breaking... That's not my point!
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2 wrongs don't make a right! Use your head and think outside the box... And if you still feel the same say it to your mate down the pub but shut the f@ck up on the net and stop helping the antis in their plight to finish hunting... You strike me as no fool but you most certainly are acting like one! If you've nothing good to say say nothing! ... I'll say no more on the subject
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4 minutes ago, foxdropper said:
I’m no fan of the hunt so I’ll say what the f**k I want to bud .Wasn’t me that f****d it all up for the everyday terrierman ,wasn’t me that thinks I’m above the law nor was it me willing to drop lurcherwork to saves their arses during the ban .
The attitude of these pompous c**ts gets them exactly what they deserve but yet again f**k all will be done because the old boy club will rally ,pay fines and lick arse to keep it just as it always was .Try that with your terrier ,lurcher combo and see where it gets you .
There's good and bad in all walks of life.... I'm not happy with them idiots but united we stand regardless of how we've been treated in the past we stay united for the greater good... What about all the hunts who do abide by the law you've done them or any of us no favor with your I'll thought out flippant comments! Cop on and think before making a fool of yourself and others! Plenty of numpties in the terrier world too...
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30 minutes ago, foxdropper said:
In my experience mate ,that suspension will of been purely a public show of discipline .Nobodies been sacked from the Avon Vale yet mate .
Why don't you keep what you know to yourself ya clown, instead of announcing it to the world... You're not helping anyone!
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A Top Weathen man by all accounts...May he rest in peace!
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2 hours ago, Scar Face said:
Maybe your right evil knievil
from what im after meeting most of the fellas in the terrier world are dreamers and liars and cant seam to keep there word but thats just my opinion tho and you might be after meeting alot of decent men and more power to you if you are. And hopefully my numbers add up because i wouldnt be getting past my second hand in fingers counting the genuine men im after meeting.
Have to say Scarface, I've always found the opposite ... Couldn't ask for better people to be amongst! Honest, genuine, decent lads.... Who would never see you stuck. Dogs are only ever gifted ... Best of luck with the pup!
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23 hours ago, Scar Face said:
Bitch pup coming up on 5 months. Was gifted her awhile back off one of the few genuine men left at this craic.
You must be mixing in the wrong circles bud, plenty of decent genuine lads out there!
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I know of a few with his blood but as you say well diluted by now, I wouldn't be the one to ask then either...
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Don't know TP, but correct me if I'm wrong, he seems to have known what he was about and had well bred working terriers besides the AC side of things... That Bruno dog was a cracking well bred animal as good as any other and threw quality workers to boot... That's why I asked how Holly was bred
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On 23/05/2022 at 14:46, Ballypreacusterriers said:
A bitch called Judy belonging to a man in Kildale she was bred out of tp Holly and j powers Bruno dog from cork
What way was Tps Holly bred?
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4 minutes ago, sid g said:
tbf i did answer your question - he sold terriers to ireland and went over digging and irish lads came over here to buy and to dig , if he had russells from ireland or not i dont think he did i know he had the odd terrier from joe h . like i said to you in pm i try not get to involved in the terrier section what ever you know say or post someone knows better than you and shoot you down so i gave up with it ,
I hear you Sid, regarding the terrier section. Joe would definitely have known and mixed with good white dog men here, so chances are he would have gotten white terriers via Joe and as you say he spent many a wkd digging over here... With good men besides Joe, who kept white dogs...I heard he got terriers off them. Twould be interesting to hear about it... As I said earlier white working terriers have crossed the sea in both directions amongst genuine men playing their part in keeping working lines up to standard. And long may it continue...no matter atb!
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1 hour ago, sid g said:
one of his first dogs came from joe h .. he had some decent stuff around in the late 70`s early 80s thunder , tornado , stormer , judy . jilly . vixen . to name a few then he had flit and stuff out of him tbh i cant remember him having stuff from ireland maybe he did who knows who cares ,
I understand you're not interested and that's fair enough, I'm interested and others may be too... It's part of history and a valid question. He certainly had dealings with enough decent terriermen from Ireland and I for one heard he did
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Can anyone ask KG, did he get white terriers from Ireland, via Irish friends living in the UK or otherwise ?
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27 minutes ago, sid g said:
se had white terriers in ireland in the 70s from gm and kg -- plummers russells and the russells he put in to start his plummers came from mj who had em from dd who had em from kg and bg ,, anyone that goes back that far and knows terriers will know all the initials
SE is one man??? Are you seriously mentioning the white terrier scene in Ireland in relation to one man!? Who wouldn't be renowned for them throughout the island anyway, not that I know of. (If I am thinking of the right man). I could list off initials of men you would know nothing about... How could you it's not written in any books. You mention Kg, where do you think he may have gotten some of his white terriers from? He certainly had the opportunity to. Not all of history can be gotten from books. As for plumber's rubbish you're welcome to em...lol. That's all I'm going to say on the subject. The reverend John 'jack Russell', became famous for his white terriers and so England is accredited with the jack Russell even though Ireland, Wales and Scotland had their white working non descript terriers that would have crossed borders and contributed to different working lines...I'll say no more, best of luck!
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I only ever read Plummer talking about white dogs from Ireland being the foundation of whatever mens stuff in the UK, but am not doubting he said the reverse also. I see Brian Nuttal mention that the Irish white dogs came from JP originally, a bit of bull was added and some made their way back to TD & RD etc etc. Just because Nuttal or Plummer states otherwise doesn't make it so. There was white working terriers in Ireland as far back as anywhere else... Working terriers of all types have always crossed the water in both directions. And long may it last amongst genuine terriermen. One or two terriers from elsewhere can be a welcome addition but doesn't make a line! ATB..
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I think the dealer was out of a daughter of Bruno's ..
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