Got to be this old boy for me recently had to be pts not long had some pups sired by him, I'm going off simply the amount of gear Iv taken with him purely down to working him for so long day time and night time, had great manners, good in the kennel, always ruled the roost he would sit in the front of the van wherever I took him, brilliant around the terriers and never false marked, wasn't the fastest of dogs by all means but would roll around all night long with no reverse gear, in 8 1/2 years he never put a foot wrong for me.